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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/29/2011 2:15:08 PM   
LadyNTrainer


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That said...it is the "substandard" label that bothers me. If a Dominant assumes responsibility for a submissive, that responsibility has to carry through in all areas. A proper diet is essential and feeding only a lower quality of food is bordering on abuse. The Dominant really should be ashamed of him/herself.


It depends on what you mean by substandard. Most of what I eat could be considered substandard from a culinary viewpoint. I tend to subsist on things like a bowl of raw oats doused in protein powder and water, or a scoop of brown rice with canned tuna, or a steamed chicken breast with raw vegetables. I've even done the infamous "tuna shake" where you put tuna in a blender with assorted other things, usually apple juice or vegetable juice, and drink it. Substandard in taste, but quite healthy.

A lot of my carefully calculated meals look and taste like dogfood, because I am micromanaging my nutrition statistics before and after a workout and picking for stats, not taste. I expect that this sort of diet would probably work quite well to "keep a slave in his place" and also keep him fit.

For that matter, take any healthy meal and put it in a blender, and you have something the average bodybuilder would down without a second thought. Many do find it easier to drink multiple meals rather than eat them, so this is actually not an uncommon practice. But I imagine it would be pretty horrific for most people, and it would serve the "slaves eat substandard food" scenario without endangering anyone's health. Only their taste buds.

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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/29/2011 2:28:55 PM   
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But I imagine it would be pretty horrific for most people, and it would serve the "slaves eat substandard food" scenario without endangering anyone's health. Only their taste buds.
i would consider that the direct opposite of substandard (well...the tuna shake gave me pause, but you know what i mean).

By substandard i was thinking more along the lines of low nutrition foods as opposed to those that are healthy but deviate from the norm.

I am not sure what the OP meant...


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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/29/2011 2:40:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		I also don't know what "substandard" food he was speaking of. I told him that no, he would eat what I eat. I simply can not wrap my mind around giving him a bowl of hash or the like. I understand and accept that he is happiest in an inferior role, but there are limits, and that would be one for me.

Appreciate all the feed back. And the giggles.

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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/29/2011 2:46:53 PM   
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Appreciate all the feed back. And the giggles.
It's only funny until someone lets Holly near the kitchen....


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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/29/2011 2:50:48 PM   
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Appreciate all the feed back. And the giggles.
It's only funny until someone lets Holly near the kitchen....



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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/29/2011 3:45:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		The word substandard gives me pause if it equates to substandard nutrition. An adult, D or s, should be able to decide for themselves what is healthy to eat, but if they abdicate that job to someone else, then that person is responsible for keeping the other in good health regardless of what particular kink they are both into. 

One thread I remember- the Dom wanted to keep his woman eating candy bars while living on the couch and that made me sick since he was willfully overlooking a key part of his position in order to get his kink on. Any type of a similar unhealthy situation to me is abuse - feeders, etc.

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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/29/2011 5:43:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		You know, sometimes the fantasy role just goes a bit too far in my opinion. Does anyone reason this shit out? First of all, women tend to live longer than men. As a fifty three year old, with health issues, do you know how hard it is for me to find a good man? So, we don't keep our men healthy with good food, consistently, guess what? An unhealthy slave will not be healthy enough to do what I want him to do and will not live as long. So Mistress will be older and seeking. Hunting for a new one at an older age, especially if you tell the news ones how and what he ate... is going to be a least a challenge. lol

Any slave that wanted it all that bad... just couldn't have a loving and selfish dominant like me because he would be fired long before he could.. um... retire. That is someone that wants me to do harm... ain't gunna happen in my home.

A dogie dish on the floor... maybe once in a while something extra added to the typical diet, okay... but as an all the time thing... just too fucking whacked out in my opinion and I don't mean to knock someone's kink... but do and will if it comes down to doing harm. You won't always be young and what you do, will most often effect you... later. Doesn't anyone feel bad for those that have to change the diapers of the elderly one that wasn't so good about their diet? Hey... it happens. Think about it. You want to be the nasty old man or woman that gets ignored because that digestive tract is too messy for the ones making just above minimum wage and they don't want to change them?




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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/29/2011 6:17:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		as my MIstress said i eat at Her feet when i am with Her at home when out to eat i sit at the table as She dosenot want to force her kink on others. i know some that have their slaves/pets eat on the floor. the term substandard can be anything. so to them i hope that they care for them properly

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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/29/2011 6:20:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ignore all these facetious comments, Mistress D. I'd be up for this idea. Sounds pretty horny to me!

Personally, I eat garbage and don't care. I have half an idea to getting the right amount of vitamins, minerals and stuff into me, and that's about it. Food is just fuel to me.

The way I see it, it all ends up as a nasty messy mulch in the belly anyway. I'd say, give him the same food as you eat, but whisk it first. Bonzer!

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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/29/2011 9:14:47 PM   
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He says that he is a gourmet cook, but that when he was with his Mistress, she fed him substandard food, out of a bowl on the kitchen floor. Now I am by no means an expert on anything, but with Mark, he ate what I ate, only at my feet.
I have heard of this before, much like feeding a dog one's leftovers on the floor.  I've never been into this, and prefer my boy eating next to me, after he's set the table.   There are a number other things slaves/submissives have told me were their experiences, with other ladies/mistresses.    The only way I would play this, is to feed him the same thing he cooked for me, but in a dog dish or kitty dish on the floor next to me.

This is one of the reasons, I like mine, minimally or not trained, if possible; because when they say "they're trained," it usually means I have to "untrain" them.   Unless the training was in obedience itself, or general service around the home, not so much to specific acts, it's not very useful to me.   A trained homemaker, I can get down with.  A man who is trained his penis is of no use to a woman (except for his torture maybe), not so much.

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I understand that every relationship is different, and that people negotiate their own terms. It got me to thinking though, if this was a common practice with slaves, or what others opinions might be. What is substandard food anyway?
I cannot say whether it is common.   I know some things are very common, as I've been told online, and in person, but I insist on dominating my way, or he can take his training elsewhere.    M

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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/30/2011 2:41:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		I get my food after I have cooked Mistress and her friends meal, I am allowed to put extra on for myself.
I serve it to them and after they have finished I clear the table putting any leftovers in my dish together with
any extra food that I have in the kitchen, after I have washed the dishes and clean up the kitchen I go to
Mistress and ask permission to eat, she will order me to put the dish on the floor in the kitchen.
By this time it is cold and a bit of a mess but it has all in it to keep me healthy and also show me my place
In life as a lower house slave.

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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/30/2011 2:48:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually pet food is healthier than people food. Pets don't have free range to treats. People eat for taste primarily and not for nutrition. Which doesn't mean that pet food would be good for people.

I eat with him because he wants someone to talk to at meals and he wouldn't have any conversation if I was on the floor.


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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/30/2011 3:26:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		desFIP I agree but my owners don,t need me as Mistress is my wife and usually she has company so ofer her girl friends and her boyfriend at weekends.
They don't like to see me eat my messy food anyway.

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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/30/2011 3:29:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Ignore all these facetious comments, Mistress D. I'd be up for this idea. Sounds pretty horny to me!

Personally, I eat garbage and don't care. I have half an idea to getting the right amount of vitamins, minerals and stuff into me, and that's about it. Food is just fuel to me.

The way I see it, it all ends up as a nasty messy mulch in the belly anyway. I'd say, give him the same food as you eat, but whisk it first. Bonzer!


really?

'cause if so, it's sure not hurt you any..

*stares at the yummy tummy*

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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/30/2011 3:38:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		A) What LadyNTrainer said.

B) If i was to occasionally eat out of a dish on the floor with my fingers or a spoon, it was to re-enforce the fantasy role playing of being a pet monkey.  i didn't find it humiliating, although i'm sure plenty would.  By sub-standard in my old household, it would mean either:
1) leftovers from a previous dish
2) simpler fare: They'd have the bleu cheese stuffed pork medallions with rosemary potatoes; i'd have steamed broccoli and brown rice.
3) oatmeal with favorite stuff.

edit: Capitalizing, what is that?

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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/30/2011 4:12:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not sure what you mean by substandard food. I used to eat what ever I was cooking for my Mistress. If the meals I prepared were substandard, I am pretty sure she would have complained about that. Now I do remember one time when she decided to cook and made an interesting fish dish. It's kinda hard to describe so just picture a nice piece of leather covered in tomato sauce. And yes, I ate it and didn't complain. But then again, she had to eat it also. Not sure what the point was with your friend. Was this supposed to be a punishment or just an every day thing because they could? Personally, when I was living with her, we didn't have the money to waste on food like that.

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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/30/2011 4:14:51 AM   
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What is substandard food anyway?


<---waits for the meatloaf jokes


Aww, that would be mean. I am sure your cooking is just fine and anyone who doubts it, can trot over to my ex's for her famous fish dish


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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/30/2011 4:20:03 AM   
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I often fantasize about eating at someones feet. Not necessarily out of a dog bowl and not because it makes me feel inferior.

Of course I do enjoy sitting at the table after I have cooked the meal. No preference as to the proximity-lower, higher, level-but I will not eat food that is substandard in nutrition.
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There was this moment in which I was not allowed to feed my self. I was told to kneel and only accept the food that was given to me. For some strange reason as the meal was finished I busted into tears of joy.

It felt both nurturing and caring and pushed some serious mental buttons. It was a one time thing but it was an experience that is driven deeply into my mind as a 'why did that do that for me?'

I can see if this gentleman enjoyed eating out of a dog bowl but he did not (at least that is what it sounded like). Understanding the fact that yes he did it to please another selfishly it never became a standard to him. This is assuming the nutrition was sound.

Garbage In, Garbage Out.

So Mistress Dililya I can see how it would offer another venue for that feel of control. The restriction and humiliation (or in some cases, joy and elation)....

Does it work for You and why does it make you feel that way?




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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/30/2011 4:42:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		The humiliation is more strong when I am sent to eat of the kitchen floor
while they relax in the living room.
It strengths my position in the household that I know my place in life.


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RE: Feeding A Slave - 1/30/2011 3:30:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		I havent read the whole thread so too the OP.

Couldn't he cook for you?
If he were trained to cook professionally?
Cooking for someone day in / day out could be a very strong act of submission.
For example"What would you like for dinner tonight Mistress?"

Now as to how that would work in your dynamic should you two choose to pursue a relationship could go any number of ways.

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