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xssve -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 9:54:20 AM)
Yes, I joined Over-beaters Anonymous, and they told me I had to submit to their arcane deity.

Hippiekinkster -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 10:23:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: soul2share quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: frazzle I offered to email you, nutritional, easy to cook, low cost meal plans around 3 years ago. Which was turned down. You are welcome to send them to me. I am always looking for new stuff. I love to cook and your adjectives make these things sound irresistible! Easy AND cheap? WOOTELS! ooooo!!!! Me too! I'm kind of in a rut food wise and would love some new ideas! Especially for fish...I eat mostly chicken, marinate it for a little flavor, but right now, the only thing I really do with fish is either sprinkle on some Old Bay or matinate it in dressing and thenmake it in my GF grill, or bake it. I don't do salmon, can't stand the odor or the taste, but I love most types of whitefish. Fish. Poach some fish in some coconut milk with a bit of Thai curry paste. Serve with Jasmine rice. Layer a red snapper filet with fresh tomatoes, onions, and lime slices. Salt, pepper, and some ground allspice. Squeeze a little fresh ornage on it. Bake for about 10 minutes at 450. Add some olives and canned jalapenos for a quick and dirty Snapper Veracruzana (I used two sauces for my restaurant version; one to cook it in, and one I served it with) Find some recado rojo and some seville orange juice. Make a paste and rub a snapper filet with it. Cook it in foil or, if you can find them, banana leaves.

littlewonder -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 10:26:33 AM)
quote: Poach some fish in some coconut milk with a bit of Thai curry paste. Serve with Jasmine rice. oohh...thanks. I was just trying to think what I was going to make for dinner tonight lol.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 12:37:42 PM)
No, he's not my dom. But because he loves me and wants to make me happy, is usually why he was bringing me junk stuff. Getting junk food and eating out makes me happy, so he did not restrict it or monitor it, , but it's not good for me, so in his drive to make me happy and do things I liked, it was counter productive to the better picture. Daddy gets paid every 2 weeks, and his job includes tips, if the people he's delivering food to, tip. while he couldn't foot a 300 to 800 dollar PT bill, we do usually, if bills haven't been particularly high, have enough petty cash most weeks to eat out. McDonalds is only 10 to 20 dollars. or we go eat at where he works, and then because he gets a 50 percent to 25 percent off discount for eating while off duty, the 35 dollar meal is only 20, and then we tip 5 and make it 25, sometimes depending on what we had dinner is only 11 dollars, and then the tip .We don't go to super super expensive places. Though that too adds up. I have wanted to stop eating out so much, and only go once a month for our budgets sake and our waistline and health's sake, but if you make it super easy for me to eat out often and have what I want, I am weak, I am not going to turn to down the offer. I have to work on that within myself, it's something I know and am beginning to face, but someone loving junk just as much as I do* if not more, and he likes junk more than me believe it or not* and being so willing to feed me if it makes me happy, is hard to change, and won't change over night, but least now we're working on getting a handle on it. There's times I didn't really plan or have any great desire to go eat at his work place, and he asks are you hoping to go to ............ tonight and I said well I really hadn't planned on it either way, so what do you want? and he's like well we can go to ........... if you want. I was like I don't think we should, what about our budget, and he'll be like I have ........ in the bank and ......... in my pocket we can afford to go. I try never to deny you......... if you want...... And of course me being me , I'm not one to refuse going to ......... if you make it that easy lol. quote: ORIGINAL: SourandSweet Wow! Lots of issues here. Please forgive me if I've misunderstood - but is your Daddy your dom? I ask because if he is in a position where he should be caring for your welfare why is he allowing you to eat foods or partake of activities which will harm you? I'm not implying he doesn't care. It could be that he cares too much. Again, I may be misunderstanding (there's alot of info in this thread to take in - which is by no means a criticism, more a self-reflection on my inability to do so) but if money is an issue why are you eating out so often? For the cost of a meal out for two (£60+ in UK) you can buy enough healthy food to last a week! I'm a veggie - it's normal for me to check the ingredients for any pre-prepared food we buy, and much of it goes back on the shelf. It may be time -consuming, but it's far better to cook from scratch, cheaper too, and healthier. However, I don't think the problem here is so much the binge eating (that seems to be more a manifestation). I think it's more self-esteem/ awareness. Maybe a touch of depression? Regarding the need for support, of course that's important, but if you're in a d/s relationship then the main person supporting you should be your dom. Even if his intentions are good he's preventing you from becoming the best you can be. Lastly there are zillions of websites with free recipes, quick, healthy, easy to make dishes. I seem to remember some where you can even type the ingredients you have and they'll give you a recipe suggestion. Again, sincere apologies if I've misunderstood anything you've written here. :-)

AAkasha -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 12:48:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom No, he's not my dom. But because he loves me and wants to make me happy, is usually why he was bringing me junk stuff. Getting junk food and eating out makes me happy, so he did not restrict it or monitor it, , but it's not good for me, so in his drive to make me happy and do things I liked, it was counter productive to the better picture. He is not buying you crap to put into your body and make you unhealthy because he wants to make you happy. He is buying you crap to put into your body because he wants to continue to put crap in his body, and getting you healthy would mean he has to look at himself and he doesn't want to do that. He wants to stay fat and unhealthy. Akasha

SourandSweet -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 12:52:11 PM)
Yes, I can understand that. I can be terribly self-indulgent if left to my own devices! If my dom offered to take me out to dinner 2 or 3 times a week I'd find it impossible to decline (assuming I could anyway lol). I guess it may be an idea for you both to sit down and work out strict mutual guidlines? Regarding support groups one of my best friends lost a few stone going to Weight Watchers. I suspect you may be in the USA and don't know if you have that over there? I've heard before that 12 Step Programmes can be rather religion-based, but the higher being is whatever you see it as being. As a fellow atheist I can see where that could cause problems, but I guess it depends on the people in the particular group. Why not try it, if you don't like it just don't go to that one again? :-)

littlewonder -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 12:56:36 PM)
lol....you make it sound like doms don't do things to make their subs/slaves happy so that's why he's not a dom. lol So he does things to make you happy.....you say losing weight will make you happy. Why don't you tell him that next time he wants to stick junk food into you?

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 1:00:21 PM)
I was going to a charity donation group for a while, it was a group called Echo, elders helping others, and they made quilts and knitted stuff, and made stuff for family in need programs and stuff. It was entirely all donation, stuff , you could buy your own material and do the project and donate it if you wanted, but other wise, you did projects they had material on hand for.And I didn't know how to knit, and I couldn't get the hang of cutting quilt squares, so I was like well I can make bibs, and I can make receiving blankets, I know how to do that, but you'll have to supply the flannel for me if I am going to do stuff in flannel. I can't run out and buy flannel every time I want to do a project, the leader of the group agreed said great see you next Wednesday, then the day after called and told me the whole group had decided I didn't belong there and I'd be better off going somewhere else. She claimed it was because I couldn't, or wouldn't do any of the projects they did, but that's not true, I said I'd make bibs and blankets, which they did do. I think I just annoyed her because she did scold me a few times about trying to hard to please, and I needed to relax more and just blend in more, instead of trying so hard to be helpful, because as well meaning as it was, it was annoying her. Buses would be ok for a now and then thing, but the bus makes what should be a 20 minute trip take hours. Honestly and it may shoot my socialization options in the foot, and so is stupid but the idea of a 20 minute trip taking an hour there , more if you missed your bus, or the bus was late and an hour back, making round trip 2 hours, if not more if you miss a bus or something is unappealing. Someone who used to be a friend but she turned out to be using me for what I could give her,, we took the bus from her house to down town, because she don't drive and when she has to drop her kid off for her kids 3 days at daddies house, the daddy d on't drive either so bus it is. It took us 2 hours, about an hour there and an hour back to make a trip that should of only taken 20 minutes, there's some places that are easier to get to by bus, than others, but I'm not really keen on the idea of the bus, because it does make simple strait forward trips take forever. When grandma lived in a nursing home and so did a family friend of ours, same one, We'd bring my Cocker spaniel to see Marie, and the elderly just loved that. Most places don't allow animals. And if they do it costs more to live there with an animal. I don't have a dog any more, but there maybe programs that have pets and you can take them in on visits with the program, that'd be fun. I was also volunteering after school with kids, that's only 5 minutes away, and maybe they'd have a position open where I could share my craft interests with the kids, maybe the local library, would have something I could do. quote: ORIGINAL: purepleasure Have you considered learning the public transportation system in your area? That way you won't be dependent on getting a ride to somewhere there are people to talk to. You feel lonely? So do many shut-ins in nursing homes. I'm sure they'd like to have a polite, well-groomed social butterfly to spend time with a few times a week. If you don't like old people, there are hospitals, animal shelters, soup kitchens, etc. that can use an extra hand. There are probably scores of volunteer opportunities in your community. A big step is getting out of the house, and out of those 4 walls, for something other than going to eat, or to an appt. Even if it is a simple as sitting on your front porch and watching the birds, or activity in your neighborhood.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 1:04:01 PM)
laughing good naturedly with her, yes it did sound that way huh lol. Of course doms do things to make their subs happy, he's not my dom because he doesn't have the energy or ability right now to control and direct another human being, specially one who's stubborn and will make things a power struggle and needs smacked down now and then, by someone who's willing to go toe to toe and roar louder than I do. not because he wants to make me happy. I have told him if you want to do something special for me, bring me a case of water or two, instead of ice creams and soda's, because when we first started living together, he thought since he bought himself a case of soda, he'd buy me one too, and I don't like soda. So now he does bring me waters. And we recently did have a talk about if he really wants to show he loves me, then show it by supporting me in saying no to the junk:) quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder lol....you make it sound like doms don't do things to make their subs/slaves happy so that's why he's not a dom. lol So he does things to make you happy.....you say losing weight will make you happy. Why don't you tell him that next time he wants to stick junk food into you?

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 1:08:42 PM)
That's what I have decided. And I am going to a gym on Wednesday for my first build your own work out consultation with the pt there, its free as a part of my membership, and I will be getting support from him for my work outs. We are in therapy too, so I have her to talk through my food issues with. quote: ORIGINAL: SourandSweet Why not try it, if you don't like it just don't go to that one again? :-)

Hippiekinkster -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 1:27:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder quote: Poach some fish in some coconut milk with a bit of Thai curry paste. Serve with Jasmine rice. oohh...thanks. I was just trying to think what I was going to make for dinner tonight lol. You are more than welcome. Any time. I used to own a restaurant, specializing in the regional cuisines of southern Mexico, and I also do some Thai, Chinese, Indonesian, Indian, French (one of my best ever dishes was Pheasant with Truffles), German, Italian, Spanish, Southern US, Tex-Mex, Cajun/Creole, and some Eastern European. I can usually offer an idea or two.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 1:30:12 PM)
What I do is I try to make friends online, from here, by looking through the personals that list sacramento, and from local bdsm groups on fetlife. When I was on alt.com I made friends from there, now and then. It just doesn't seem to work out, either I get no response to my contact, or I get a response and they're willing to start a friendship I hear from them for a week or two, and then never hear from them again, or the moment they learn I live with my parents, and Daddy does too, it ceases all contact . Or they turn out to be a user who was only using me for what they could get, and when it became clear I wasn't " use friend as a personal get all you can/ gift registry" and they couldn't use me for things, or use me in general, they took off pretty quick an thank god for that, who wants those people in their life. I'm not allowed to make more than 100 dollars, for every 100 dollars you make they start cutting your SSI check, but a once a week job or something surely you wouldn't make 100. I tried signing up for walmart but they never contacted me back about my application. I also asked good w/ill and their rep was supposed to call me back an that was 3 months ago, it reminds me it's high time to call them back and chase them till I get a reply. I walked dogs at the SPCA before and it was fun I have some fond memories of the big Dalmatian type dog, I think who was still really young they named him max amillion or something like that and he was so funny. If I wore a V neck shirt and was hot an sweaty he'd always try to put his head down my shirt and lick my sweaty skin, I learned very quickly not to sit down in the cage with that boy* sometimes after walks and before going home I'd sit in the cage with them. less you wanna be trampled an jumped on and nearly licked to death lol. Then there was this tiny little poodle, who was a lap dog if you sat down in his reach he'd hop in your lap for a cuddle. I actually thought about fostering him, but he was adopted very quickly. If dogs were not your thing, you could work in the Kittery, ,there were always kitties that needed holding an talking to and socialization with people, and some of the really lil lil ones, they needed hand fed. That was always really special. quote:* ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot TFB: Your isolation is a catch 22. You want a friend or friends, but you don't get out, so how can you have friends. I understand that. In order to make friends you have to get out and meet people. I think this has been suggested before: take a stab at volunteering a few hours a week. I know you like animals, so one idea is to volunteer at your local shelter. They often need people to walk/play with the dogs and other such stuff. You would be killing a few birds with one stone. You'll get excercise from walking the pooches, you'll meet people with similar interests, you'll need to wash up and look nice and you'll feel better about yourself. That's just an idea for volunteering, there are many options. Elections are coming up, work on some one's campaign. It can be as simple as making phone calls or doing envelopes. I work on campaigns all the time and I meet wonderful people and there are many social events that come along with that territory. The most glaring way to meet other people is the topic of your OP. OA. You say you don't have alot of support, well then a support group who has members going through the same issues as you is ideal. And an opportunity to make friends. I know you are on Disability, but you can work a little to suppliment your check. Bag groceries at the local supermarket a few hours a week, ring a register at a Quick Mart, get a little job that you can get a little extra money from and be among people. Here in Mass. you can make an extra $450ish/month when on disalbility. SSI is a federal program, so I suspect it's much the same everywhere. You need to find a way to get busy and re join the human race a little bit. Then other things will fall into place. It's a process. I think Holly's idea of starting with personal hygiene, something that will make YOU feel better about you is a good starting place. Start your day with a shower and get dressed, then go make your breakfast, sit at the table and eat it and clean up your mess. There's no need to email your friends the minute your eyes open. That's postponing the normal stuff you need to get back to doing. Email after your shower and your breakfast. We all know that sometimes once we fire up the PC, even to do one task, we can get sidetracked and be on it for hours and haven't gotten things done we need to. Set a rule for yourself: no PC or TV until I am washed, dressed and fed for the morning. I'm not being a smart ass* but * since you are so attached to your TV and PC, maybe restricting it until you have accomlished a few simple taks would be motivation to complete the tasks. I'm not saying go out and voluteer and get a job today. What I am saying is start the process. Do as Holly suggests, and make a time table for yourself. Work on your mobility, so you can do these two little things. Set goals: I will volunteer two days a month, and increase as you feel comfortable. Then get a little job. It may take weeks or months, but start preparing yourself to get back into life. Again, not being mean, but I don't understand. Why did you opt for the $19.99 guest package for the gym ? That's an extra $120/year for guests you don't have. < I am basing that on your statements that you don't have friends, maybe I misunderstood > mbmbn

WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 1:34:08 PM)
There you go TFtB, you can get exercise AND socialize/out of the house. Volunteer again at your SPCA to be a dog walker. Those poor babies need all the love that someone like you can give them, and I think it would be great foryou.

Hippiekinkster -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 1:40:58 PM)
Let me tell you something, TFTB. I'm not diabetic, but I ended up with an ulcer on the bottom of my foot, almost a year ago. That is a gaping hole of raw flesh that went down to the bone and bleeds constantly, and was infected with MRSA so bad that it started going up to my thigh before I said enough was enough and went to the ER. They admitted me - "high severity" they called it, and I got IV antibiotics for 3 days. The infection came back, and I just finished up over 3 months of IV antibiotics, walking around with a catheter coming out of my chest. The vancomycin didn't work. The televancin made my piss foam and made everything, even water, taste like soap. That didn't work either, so they put me on both Cubicin and Invanz at the same time for 6 weeks. That gave me permanent diarrhea and made me tired and weak as a Dog. I could have died. MRSA KILLS. The wound is about half-healed now, the infection is gone, but I'm keeping the catheter in case it comes back. My foot still bleeds and hurts. You can't walk on it all the time and have it heal, so I've had to put my whole fucking life, including jamming with some great musicians, and growing my flowers, in hold. That's the kind of shit you have to look forward to if you don't stop fucking around. Your choice, stop jerking off or die young.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 1:50:20 PM)
I do miss having a baby to coochie coo over, but not the responsibility of a dog, I could get all the coochie coo time I want over there too:) quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance There you go TFtB, you can get exercise AND socialize/out of the house. Volunteer again at your SPCA to be a dog walker. Those poor babies need all the love that someone like you can give them, and I think it would be great foryou.

NocturnalStalker -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 3:37:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance There you go TFtB, you can get exercise AND socialize/out of the house. Volunteer again at your SPCA to be a dog walker. Those poor babies need all the love that someone like you can give them, and I think it would be great foryou. And if you do this, make sure you keep those mongrels away from me.

kalikshama -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 4:45:10 PM)
quote: Poach some fish in some coconut milk with a bit of Thai curry paste. Serve with Jasmine rice. Ha! I made something similar for dinner, only with chicken and lentils instead of fish. Yum! I added fish sauce, but one could also add soy sauce or salt.

kalikshama -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 5:25:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha quote: ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom No, he's not my dom. But because he loves me and wants to make me happy, is usually why he was bringing me junk stuff. Getting junk food and eating out makes me happy, so he did not restrict it or monitor it, , but it's not good for me, so in his drive to make me happy and do things I liked, it was counter productive to the better picture. He is not buying you crap to put into your body and make you unhealthy because he wants to make you happy. He is buying you crap to put into your body because he wants to continue to put crap in his body, and getting you healthy would mean he has to look at himself and he doesn't want to do that. He wants to stay fat and unhealthy. Akasha TFB, If he REALLY wanted to make you happy he'd support you by going to the gym with you (is he why you got the guest membership?) and support your development of healthy food choices.

sirsholly -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 5:40:26 PM)
quote: My foot still bleeds and hurts. You can't walk on it all the time and have it heal, so I've had to put my whole fucking life, including jamming with some great musicians, and growing my flowers, in hold. I am so sorry this happened to you, Hippie. But ya know, the flowers you grow this spring are going to have the sweetest scent ever [:)]

Hippiekinkster -> RE: Are the over eater anon groups overly religious? (2/5/2011 7:53:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sirsholly quote: My foot still bleeds and hurts. You can't walk on it all the time and have it heal, so I've had to put my whole fucking life, including jamming with some great musicians, and growing my flowers, in hold. I am so sorry this happened to you, Hippie. But ya know, the flowers you grow this spring are going to have the sweetest scent ever [:)] TY, Holly. This has been an ordeal I wouldn't wish on anyone except maybe John Boehner or Glen Beck. [8D] My daffydills should be popping up in about a month, same time the Forsythia blooms. Crocusus are already popping up, and my witchhazel is about ready to bloom. After the Forsythia, the azaleas, and the Virginia sweetspire, rhodos, spirea, loropetalum, Callicarpa, viburnums, hostas, beebalm, daylilies, .... my butterfly Japanese maple will be in full leaf, and my buddleas will be starting to bloom. My Fothergillas will be leafed out (vivid orange foliage in the fall) as will my Bloodgood Japanese maple. I've neglected my garden for over two years, and I need to divide/transplant so many of my perennials. I used to have lots of pics, but they're on another hard drive. I have an arbor over my front foor, and a big Madison Jasmine growing up it, right under my bathroom window. Oh man the aroma when it's in bloom is just otherworldly. And my Gardenias in the back yard, if the deep freeze didn't kill them. (I will be bummed, man. They're right next to my screened porch.) SO much work, but it's so rewarding...

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