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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 6:38:23 AM   
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Leftist hypocrisy against blacks was popeyes main point, but I guess you missed that somehow. And yes, such things may very well make you a leftist.

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Actually my rebuttal would have been "dude says send a black guy into the fields and your biggest complaint is global warming?" but hey, I already said I found what people said in that video deplorable.

Guess that means I'm not a "leftist"?


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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 6:39:46 AM   
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Bush, Bush, Reagan, Ford, Nixon - and so on.

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Only when its the other guy though, huh.

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Huh. Here I thought it was lobbyists, corporate bailouts, defense contracting, oil spills, failing education, and normal people becoming homeless from medical bills.

Learn something new every day.




What other guy?


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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 6:40:01 AM   
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Leftist hypocrisy against blacks was popeyes main point, but I guess you missed that somehow. And yes, such things may very well might make you a leftist.


You're right, my bad.

I still think the video is bad enough without the random "I bet ninety eight percent of these people believe in global warming" added on.

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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 6:43:01 AM   
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popeye is right to be pissed off against the entire leftist agenda, its hard to miss seeing how there are a whole lot of moderates being pushed to the right of late.


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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 6:44:00 AM   
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Bush, Bush, Reagan, Ford, Nixon - and so on.



Oh right I get it. Sorry it's totally late here.

I think most progressives voted for Obama because they didn't want to continue along those lines and actually believed a junior Senator with no executive experience would change the world.

I think most of those people are very disappointed in Obama and mostly stick with him because the other party is so vehemently anti-socialist and most progressives have fairly socialist tendencies (increasing spending in public schools, public healthcare, community-building programs, etc) so they'd rather go with the guy who fails at being a progressive than the guy who actively works against it.


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popeye is right to be pissed off against the entire leftist agenda, its hard to miss seeing how there are a whole lot of moderates being pushed to the right of late.



Well I can say I'm the opposite, I voted for McCain in 08 (no lie, I probably posted about it on these forums somewhere) and I've become quite disillusioned with the direction it's taken since then.

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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 6:50:37 AM   
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If "progressives" love socialism then why did they abandon the "liberal" and "socialist" labels to become "progressives"?

Oh thats right, because those people were all widely hated.


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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 6:52:15 AM   
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If "progressives" love socialism then why did they abandon the "liberal" and "socialist" labels to become "progressives"?

Oh thats right, because those people were all widely hated.



Because progressivism is a mixture of social democracy and capitalism. They are neither liberals nor socialists, but the product of the two with a healthy dose of green tossed in.

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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 6:55:03 AM   
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Dont worry, Obama is one of you, hes just trying to fly under the radar so he can appear Conservative in order to try to win reelection. But he is pulling it off rather badly and thereby pissing everyone off.




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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 6:57:41 AM   
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Okay, so what happened to the socialists and liberals. Did they just go away?

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Because progressivism is a mixture of social democracy and capitalism. They are neither liberals nor socialists, but the product of the two with a healthy dose of green tossed in.



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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 6:59:32 AM   
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Dont worry, Obama is one of you, hes just trying to fly under the radar so he can appear Conservative in order to try to win reelection. But he is pulling it off rather badly and thereby pissing everyone off.



He won the first election by promising what he did. If he is doing this solely to try to win re-election and not because he's simply unable to deliver on his promises and because his experience has been as a Senator (compromiser/collaborator) and not as an executive (leader/decision maker) he is seriously misguided.

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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 7:00:07 AM   
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Leftists do love to attack the messenger, which of course is their only possible rebuttal when confronted with such obvious facts.

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So when prisonplanet isn't good enough as a source, go to YouTube?

This.



Sanity, I don't have sound on my computer, so I didn't even click the link.  I have no idea what it contains, but anyone can post on YouTube.  If Limbaugh/Beck/Palin/Olbermann/Maddow comment, they have solid constituencies and are known to speak for people.  Not to mention that they have media empires who are invested with them.  They have valid claims to some sort of legitimacy.

I'm not attacking the messenger as much as saying that anyone posting on YouTube does not need to have a single person agree with him or her.  I give the expressed opinion no weight because of that.


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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 7:01:21 AM   
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Okay, so what happened to the socialists and liberals. Did they just go away?



No, they're both still here.

http://www.democrats.org/
http://www.sp-usa.org/

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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 7:02:37 AM   
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Sanity, I don't have sound on my computer, so I didn't even click the link.  I have no idea what it contains, but anyone can post on YouTube.  If Limbaugh/Beck/Palin/Olbermann/Maddow comment, they have solid constituencies and are known to speak for people.  Not to mention that they have media empires who are invested with them.  They have valid claims to some sort of legitimacy.



Video is copyright Andrew Breitbart.

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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 7:03:51 AM   
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So of course several of the board leftists lead with personal attacks, helping to underscore popeyes point. And Elisa, the global warming hoax is a lynchpin that gives these jackals a pretext to act as heinous as they do, they feel theyre justified because theyve convinced themselves that theyre doing Gaea a service and so of course it ties in.

ALL of this bullshit is just a more grabbing at straws to then bring out the old leftist cringe again. Almost the entire right wing argument of today is a personal attack on those who disagree, especially the left...because they have nothing left. The right is intellectually bankrupt. 

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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 7:04:01 AM   
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He didnt even serve a full term as junior senator, Elisabella. And Steven, you just admitted that youre trying to comment on something that you know absolutely nothing about. 

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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 7:06:47 AM   
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Yeah, I'm not a fan of Obama. He hasn't done much to earn my vote, if I do vote for him it will be because I caved in and went for the "lesser of two evils" option, which is something I really don't want to do.

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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 7:14:12 AM   
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God damn the messenger then?

The New York Times, MSNBC and CNN are about the same as Breitbart.



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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 7:14:43 AM   
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Okay, so what happened to the socialists and liberals. Did they just go away?

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Because progressivism is a mixture of social democracy and capitalism. They are neither liberals nor socialists, but the product of the two with a healthy dose of green tossed in.


The socialists and leftists otherwise known as banker on wall street investors...haven't gone anywhere. They are alive and well...very well thank you.

They are secretly laughing all of the way to the bank while as is their spew their creed...bitching at govt. for more handouts, tax cuts and a reduction in their oh os oppressive 15% tax rates. [sic]

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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 7:18:47 AM   
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God damn the messenger then?

The New York Times, MSNBC and CNN are about the same as Breitbart.



Meh, I think the video's legit until proven otherwise.

Hate and bile doesn't have a political affiliation, it's just spewed over different things.

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RE: Looks like the left wants an "Egypt" in t... - 2/4/2011 7:21:28 AM   
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I believe its legit too, its fairly obvious.

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