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Sanity -> Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 6:17:05 AM)
quote: President Barack Obama announced his high-speed wireless Internet initiative, which involves reallocating spectrum and up to $15 billion in spending. In a speech at Northern Michigan University in Marquette, Mich., he said the goal is to bring advanced communications to underserved areas. "We want to invest in the next generation of high-speed wireless coverage for 98 percent of Americans," Obama said. "This isn't about faster internet, being able to find a friend on Facebook. It's about connecting every corner of America to the digital age." The goal, he said, is to provide fast Internet connections to 98 percent of the country. One question, to begin with. Once the government takes ownership by virtue of paying the bill, will government then assume the right of controlling content?

ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 6:33:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: President Barack Obama announced his high-speed wireless Internet initiative, which involves reallocating spectrum and up to $15 billion in spending. In a speech at Northern Michigan University in Marquette, Mich., he said the goal is to bring advanced communications to underserved areas. "We want to invest in the next generation of high-speed wireless coverage for 98 percent of Americans," Obama said. "This isn't about faster internet, being able to find a friend on Facebook. It's about connecting every corner of America to the digital age." The goal, he said, is to provide fast Internet connections to 98 percent of the country. One question, to begin with. Once the government takes ownership by virtue of paying the bill, will government then assume the right of controlling content? Of course. What other conclusion is possible? They'll probably control access, too - anyone who is opposed to the idea doesn't get to use it, and their kids can grow up to become illiterate goatherds who make grunting noises and point at airplanes.

mnottertail -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 6:33:46 AM)
Yes, I suppose, the current administration is in favor of net neutrality, but I doubt the neocons are. So, I am against it unless they can put a bigger FCC together with broader powers and a neutrality law in place, which is more government.

rulemylife -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 6:38:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity One question, to begin with. Once the government takes ownership by virtue of paying the bill, will government then assume the right of controlling content? Another question to begin with, what in the fuck is wrong with you? There are absolutely no negatives in this proposal but you have to invent something in your never-ending Obama hatred.

EternalHoH -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 6:50:54 AM)
It took government spending to get everyday electricity into rural areas. Did the government take ownership of power lines in those rural areas?

Sanity -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 6:59:30 AM)
Yours is the first semi-intelligent response so far, congratulations. A couple of things though, the government isnt paying for anyones power. And if it is, yes the use of such electricity should be tightlyy regulated, should it not? quote: ORIGINAL: EternalHoH It took government spending to get everyday electricity into rural areas. Did the government take ownership of power lines in those rural areas?

JohnWarren -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 7:08:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity One question, to begin with. Once the government takes ownership by virtue of paying the bill, will government then assume the right of controlling content? I guess you are too young to remember the TWA or the Rural Electrification Project. We still get our electricity from private companies and the government doesn't shut it off if a state votes the wrong way

rulemylife -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 7:17:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Yours is the first semi-intelligent response so far, congratulations. A couple of things though, the government isnt paying for anyones power. And if it is, yes the use of such electricity should be tightlyy regulated, should it not? quote: ORIGINAL: EternalHoH It took government spending to get everyday electricity into rural areas. Did the government take ownership of power lines in those rural areas? Oh, you should feel so blessed Eternal, a much sought after compliment from Sanity. And he even thinks you are semi-intelligent. High praise indeed coming from the intellectual icon of CM.

Sanity -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 7:22:45 AM)
Thats already been addressed above, John Warren. Again, does government owe everyone (and every business) in the country free unlimited and unmonitored electricity? That would be a better comparison.

ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 7:24:08 AM)
Does the government tell you where you can and can not go on the roads it builds?

DarkSteven -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 7:24:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity One question, to begin with. Once the government takes ownership by virtue of paying the bill, will government then assume the right of controlling content? In the areas they subsidize, they have that right. In the areas where Internet is paid for by private citizens, hell no.

Sanity -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 7:26:31 AM)
If the government begins providing everyone with free Internet, how could private providers survive?

Sanity -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 7:28:07 AM)
This might be shocking news to some but our roads are highly regulated. quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda Does the government tell you where you can and can not go on the roads it builds?

rulemylife -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 7:28:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity One question, to begin with. Once the government takes ownership by virtue of paying the bill, will government then assume the right of controlling content? In the areas they subsidize, they have that right. In the areas where Internet is paid for by private citizens, hell no. That has never even been remotely suggested by anyone in the government.

Musicmystery -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 7:30:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: President Barack Obama announced his high-speed wireless Internet initiative, which involves reallocating spectrum and up to $15 billion in spending. In a speech at Northern Michigan University in Marquette, Mich., he said the goal is to bring advanced communications to underserved areas. "We want to invest in the next generation of high-speed wireless coverage for 98 percent of Americans," Obama said. "This isn't about faster internet, being able to find a friend on Facebook. It's about connecting every corner of America to the digital age." The goal, he said, is to provide fast Internet connections to 98 percent of the country. One question, to begin with. Once the government takes ownership by virtue of paying the bill, will government then assume the right of controlling content? Yeah.....better privatize it, and let free market entrepreneurs sell it to us instead. Oh, and control content.

mnottertail -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 7:34:05 AM)
do you know how the internet works, before you run your mouth. what is being proposed here is an 'infrastructure', a backbone, like a road, not township grading services. The government by example builds and administers highways, but you dont see army D8 Cats making grade, it is done by contract to private companies. You should get at least a very feeble understanding of these things before you post ignorant questions like that. And then comment on whether or not a response is intelligent to something you have just admitted you have no understanding of. While in an infantile intellect sort of way, the OP had some merit, you have just turned it into a fucking joke and a sour grapes rant to justify your own ideology (which beyond being inchoate is also puerile).

Elisabella -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 7:34:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity One question, to begin with. Once the government takes ownership by virtue of paying the bill, will government then assume the right of controlling content? Possibly...it might end up something like public/cable tv, where the public stuff is regulated but you can pay for just about anything you care to see. Question for you - with the US in the state it's in now - dismal education, severe urban decay, behind many other countries in math and science...is creating this infrastructure to modernize the US worth the risk of possible government censorship?

rulemylife -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 7:38:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity If the government begins providing everyone with free Internet, how could private providers survive? Who in God's name is talking about free internet? You don't even have any idea what is in your own link.

pahunkboy -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 7:45:36 AM)
....more noise. The 96 telecom act- was passed so the telecoms could build the information superhighway. What happened? We paid for this already.

mnottertail -> RE: Free Government Internet (2/11/2011 7:50:52 AM)
the 96 telecom act has nothing whatsoever to do with this, it was interconnectivity, collocation and number portability, nothing to do with internet.

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