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RE: Could Egypt happen here. - 2/12/2011 5:37:36 PM   
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I don't know if it could happen here. I've been wondering about that myself. Would the younger generation have the will and bravery necessary? I think we as a nation are too soft.



I don't believe soft has anything to do with it. People who rebel have one thing in common....Nothing to loose.

We have too much to loose here in America...otherwise no one will give up their future...cell phones...cars...homes...etc for a political revolution...not when they can vote.

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RE: Could Egypt happen here. - 2/12/2011 5:51:59 PM   
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In all fairness, though, some on the right love to rant about an rebellion armed with gators.


Fixed that for you.

As an outsider I would be interested in learning if only the lunatic fringe goes there, or if it is more widespread.


As Americans, it's woven into our cultural DNA. We, as a people, are obsessed with our self-authored national persona - that of the rugged, rebellious, independent pioneer who doesn't take any crap from anyone and will shoot anyone who tries to rein us in. The Gatorboys are the most extreme, and most obvious, examples, but there are a lot of relatively normal Americans who are quite comfortable having a perfectly reasonable discussion about the hypothetical possibility of armed rebellion against the government. Many of us, in fact, see it as both our constitutional and our moral obligation.


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RE: Could Egypt happen here. - 2/12/2011 6:05:24 PM   
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I don't know if it could happen here. I've been wondering about that myself. Would the younger generation have the will and bravery necessary? I think we as a nation are too soft.



I don't believe soft has anything to do with it. People who rebel have one thing in common....Nothing to loose.

We have too much to loose here in America...otherwise no one will give up their future...cell phones...cars...homes...etc for a political revolution...not when they can vote.


Yes, that's it exactly. It's not a question of soft (although as a nation, we most certainly are). It's a question of comfortable. The majority of Americans - even most of the poor - have it easy enough that they're simply not motivated to take the risks associated with overthrowing the government. It'll have to get much worse before people are desperate enough to resort to that.

Mind you, I said it "will" have to much worse, not that it "would" have to get much worse. Because it will. It's inevitable. It just isn't going to happen anytime in the next couple of years, probably. A lot of people think we came fairly close during the Great Depression, and that FDR's New Deal programs played a role in dampening the incipient revolutionary ardor. You could argue that when the next economic collapse comes - I mean real, complete collapse; not the near-miss we suffered a couple of years ago - a nation that has become as  accustomed to affluence, luxury, and unlimited creature comforts as we have become will feel even more outraged and desperate than a nation that was not as well-off as we were, and be even more likely to rebel.

I'm not sure I fully buy that argument, but I think it's worth reflecting on. At any rate, I strongly suspect that we'll find out one way or the other within the next 4 or 5 years.


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RE: Could Egypt happen here. - 2/12/2011 6:13:58 PM   
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RE: Could Egypt happen here. - 2/13/2011 6:14:27 AM   
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3 million homeless ? Please..I say prove it..


Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration: How many are homeless?
Question #2
Who is homeless? 

An estimated 842,000 adults and children are homeless in a given week, with that number swelling to as many as 3.5 million over the course of a year.

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RE: Could Egypt happen here. - 2/13/2011 7:45:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Algeria, Yemen and Iran are in process of protesting soon.  Algeria's government has already shut down (as occurred in Egypt) partial areas of net and media access.

Yes, it can happen anywhere.

be prepared since Obama's net-kill switch bill (Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act)  is being pursued again in Congress. 

so know how to access through backdoors and other means. http://www.pcworld.com/article/218155/get_internet_access_when_your_government_shuts_it_down.html?tk=hp_ess

Information (on current events of other citizens and the governement/other statuses) is your biggest asset in times of crisis.

*and as far as the homeless are concerned, it is not the current homeless that you gotta be weary of, they pretty well know what they are doing and how to handle most dire circumstances by now.  It is those that are not used to being homeless that you gotta watch out for.  This kind of noob nouveau-broke creature will be in panic mode for weeks, even months.


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RE: Could Egypt happen here. - 2/13/2011 11:01:52 AM   
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RE: Could Egypt happen here. - 2/13/2011 1:38:58 PM   
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pops wanted the bums thrown out...Notice how he doesn't churp much about the "new" bums that got in?

wilbur what a waste.

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