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Termyn8or -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/13/2011 11:41:12 PM)

Then YOU pay for it.

T^T




Arpig -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/13/2011 11:53:16 PM)

ummmm....I already do




Termyn8or -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/14/2011 12:48:47 AM)

Well, I'm glad we got that out of the way.

Happy foruming.

T^T




Arpig -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/14/2011 1:40:01 AM)

glad to help, but you're still full of it




pahunkboy -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/14/2011 6:46:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Montana is leaving the UN.  I think PA should too. 
Fuck off



Which is exactly what I think of your NWO.




pahunkboy -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/14/2011 6:48:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Then YOU pay for it.

T^T


Some here celebrate a centralized govt.  Think Soviet style.




pahunkboy -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/14/2011 6:55:17 AM)

UCC law is closer the Martial law then it has ever been.

Think raw milk swat teams.




Sanity -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/14/2011 6:55:46 AM)


Its a libtards wet dream. Taxpayer: "Sir, may I smoke a cigarette?" Government official, while smoking: "No, you absolutely cannot."

"May I have some electricity? My children are cold."

"What, and destroy the planet?"

And so on.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Then YOU pay for it.

T^T


Some here celebrate a centralized govt.  Think Soviet style.





pahunkboy -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/14/2011 8:19:22 AM)

Yeah- I never could understand those who ballyhoo a centralized consolidation of power.


In the end- we are all responsible for the bed we sleep in.




cuckoldmepls -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/14/2011 8:25:09 AM)

What's even stranger are the politicians who want an all powerful centralized national government and centralized world government, when eventually they are out of power themselves and at the mercy of the machine they created. e.g. Bush, and hopefully Obama in 2 years.

I wonder if obama uses the patriot act to monitor all of Bush's communications unconstitutionally for fear that he will still attempt to become the first North American Union President. I'm sure Obama has his sights on that now too. By the way, until we actually elect a President and a Congress who is going to enforce our immigration laws, the NAU is still on. It's just gone underground.




tazzygirl -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/14/2011 8:28:39 AM)

Whats even scarier is that Sanity has backup from pahunk and cucky and company.




Jeffff -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/14/2011 8:42:09 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

For 3.5 years I have been reading RO's posts. They invariably contain misleading and often outright false information.


It seems like much, much longer.


on the brite side if your sperm is as potent as your arguments we dont have to worry about any more of you running around.

and in 3.5 years you have yet to make a cogent rebuttal to any damn thing that I posted with regard to history and law yet.






As soon as you offer up a cogent post, I will offer up a cogent reply.




pahunkboy -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/14/2011 9:04:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Whats even scarier is that Sanity has backup from pahunk and cucky and company.


and yet we have Czars.  Do you have any idea what a czar is?

Be careful what you wish for.




mnottertail -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/14/2011 9:06:40 AM)

caesar, kaiser, tsar?

Nope, clueless, fill me in.




jlf1961 -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/14/2011 10:46:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls

What's even stranger are the politicians who want an all powerful centralized national government and centralized world government, when eventually they are out of power themselves and at the mercy of the machine they created. e.g. Bush, and hopefully Obama in 2 years.


First of all, there is no movement for a centralized world government, it is just another conspiracy theory that has gained momentum on the far right. In case you are too dumb to realize it, the United Nations really has no authority except for those few countries that actually adhere to the resolutions passed by the general assembly.

The simple fact is that at the present stage of human development, and society being what it is, there is no chance for it to come into being. There are too many people who are nationalists and will not tolerate the dissolving of nations.



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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls
I wonder if obama uses the patriot act to monitor all of Bush's communications unconstitutionally for fear that he will still attempt to become the first North American Union President. I'm sure Obama has his sights on that now too. By the way, until we actually elect a President and a Congress who is going to enforce our immigration laws, the NAU is still on. It's just gone underground.



Hate to tell you this, but the right wing hero John McCain has proposed amnesty in every immigration bill he has either introduced or cosponsored.

You want immigration laws enforced, then pony up the money to pay for it. You right wing idiots seem to think you can cut taxes and pay for someone to do something about it without enough money to do the job.

As far as the "North American Union" goes, it will never happen as long as the Mexican government cant get a handle on the drug cartels, which considering the corruption prevalent aint going to happen unless someone decides to treat drug runners as hostile invasions and retaliates.




Termyn8or -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/14/2011 11:04:13 AM)

"First of all, there is no movement for a centralized world government,"

Not if you count what's been going on for the last few thousand years. Many have tried, but noone quite got the job done. Roman Empire, British Empire, and so forth. And "New World Order" is not a figment of a tin hatted imagination, those words came out of George H.W. Bush's lips many times. Remember the ones he said to read - "No new taxes" ?

They're still out there, they just seem to have a bit more tact. They use a bit different language. They have much nicer weapons than the sword.

T^T




DomKen -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/14/2011 11:38:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"First of all, there is no movement for a centralized world government,"

NotĀ if you count what's been going on for the last few thousand years. Many have tried, but noone quite got the job done. Roman Empire, British Empire, and so forth. And "New World Order" is not a figment of a tin hatted imagination, those words came out of George H.W. Bush's lips many times. Remember the ones he said to read - "No new taxes" ?

They're still out there, they just seem to have a bit more tact. They use a bit different language. They have much nicer weapons than the sword.

T^T

Actually he said 'new world order' as in the ongoing reorganization of peoples and nations after the end of the Cold War not 'New World Order' as in some shadowy conspiracy to take over the world. And he said it once in a speech to Congress.




Termyn8or -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/14/2011 11:51:28 AM)

"ongoing reorganization of peoples and nations "

Yes, a bit different language.

T^T




jlf1961 -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/14/2011 11:56:56 AM)

Term, may I point out a few facts that you and your conspiracy nutjobs seem to have conveniently forgotten?

1. The term was used at the end of World War Two and the beginning of the cold war to describe the situation between east and west.

2. The term was used when mankind went into space, referring to the change in technology and the achievements of mankind.

3. The term was used to describe the world after the fall of the soviet union, again referring to the situation between the former soviet union and western countries.


The term has been used to describe any significant change in the political climate around the world, IT DOES NOT REFER TO A NEW WORLD GOVERNMENT.

Do any actual academic research on human civilization at its present stage of development and you will find out it is damn impossible for a centralized world government to actually come into existence. There is not one unifying idea that actually can get the world population behind it, and that is the rub.

Any attempt to take the world by use of military force to create such a government would continually escalate until nuclear weapons are used, and there would be nothing for a government to govern when it is all done.

As you have pointed out, there have at times been governments that controlled vast areas of the globe, all of which crumbled due to the weight of the problem.

Ghangis Khan's empire crumbled at his death because of infighting between his heirs that he left the empire to.

The Roman empire crumbled because it got too weak to fight off the barbarians simply because the Romans got to lazy to defend their empire.

Hitler tried it but came up against the allies who fought against Nazism.

Napoleon tried, twice and was defeated by an alliance of countries against him, not to mention the great Russian Ally, winter.

The British empire eventually came apart partly due to nationalist movements in various colonial holdings or simply out of necessity. It is expensive to try and hold vast areas in the modern times.

Basically it boils down to the simple fact, once again, that there is no unifying movement among the various ethnic and national populations that would make a change to a central world government plausible, or even possible.

Various science fiction writers have postulated such a government, usually the result of a series of world wars and one group coming up with a way to end them. The most famous of which is "the New World Order" by H. G. Wells. Another that postulated such a world government is Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein, which seems more of a political essay, in my opinion.




Icarys -> RE: United States to Pursue UN Global Gun Ban (2/14/2011 12:07:47 PM)

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Term, may I point out a few facts that you and your conspiracy nutjobs seem to have conveniently forgotten?

No worse than you and your naive nutjobs who'd prefer to stay in denial even after multiple politicians have referred to exactly what he's talking about. If you think everything is above board then you're an idiot.

I'm being facetious here but anyone with a lick of sense could see that either party may be correct base on the limited information ALL of us are privy to.

I love it when people are so sure of something they are by far the least privy to.

What's really funny here is that you list a whole line of historic examples that you say "tried" it but failed yet you miss the obvious. They tried...now what makes you think it's not possible for them to attempt it.




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