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Aylee -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/21/2011 6:45:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

Has anyone bothered to explain how Obama's Social Security number supposedly became a matter of public record to begin with?


I do not understand it, but it seemed to me the explanation had something to do with searches on the internet for Obama information and compared something they found with his Selective Service Registration Number.

My Google-fu is powerful, but apparently I am still a grasshopper when it comes to personal searches.



tazzygirl -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/21/2011 6:49:51 PM)

Here is one side.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/11/obama-social-security-num_n_609299.html

Here is the other.

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=261033



servantforuse -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/21/2011 7:06:02 PM)

What are the 1st. three digits from Kenya ?



tazzygirl -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/21/2011 7:07:25 PM)

Find a kenyan and ask.



servantforuse -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/21/2011 7:13:01 PM)

I called the white house but they wouldn't let me talk to one.



Aylee -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/21/2011 8:16:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

What are the 1st. three digits from Kenya ?


They are in their 3rd generation of ID cards and have fingerprints. I have no idea what the algorithm would be for their numbering system. They are national ID cards and are needed for the franchise as well as everything else. Not as comparable to our SSN's.



tazzygirl -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/21/2011 9:29:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

I called the white house but they wouldn't let me talk to one.


Thats because they dont have one.



truckinslave -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/22/2011 6:20:23 AM)

MM will no doubt argue both that people are "free to send their children to private schools" and fight the school voucher programs that would make it so.



truckinslave -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/22/2011 6:31:07 AM)

It's interesting that the number was originally issued to a woman born in 1897 who died not long before the number was supposedly issued to 0bama0.

Nice compilation of the various conjectures offered up to try to explain the assumed issuance of said number.

But, just like the Birth Certificate, we have nothing but conjecture on both sides.



truckinslave -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/22/2011 6:47:53 AM)

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Doesn't matter where you were born. If at least one of your parents was a citizen at the time of your birth, you are a "Natural born citizen"

Those birthers REALLY ought to read the constitution.


No. You really should read Marbury v. Madison:

"It cannot be presumed that any clause in the constitution is intended to be without effect; and therefore such construction is inadmissible, unless the words require it "

It is, thus, inadmissible to argue that "citizen" and "natural born citizen" mean the same thing.

Epic fail.







DomYngBlk -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/22/2011 6:52:17 AM)

Not sure what all that has to do with the fact that Union busting now has become the job of Big Business's minions that are elected officials.



CreativeDominant -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/22/2011 7:09:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

Not sure what all that has to do with the fact that Union busting now has become the job of Big Business's minions that are elected officials.

What a load. Governor Walker is not trying to bust the union. He is trying to keep the state from going broke.

One thing you might take into account...it wasn't the unions who built the business, it was the business owners. It wasn't the unions who built the schools, it was the taxpayers. The same taxpayers who also pay the salaries of the union teachers and the benefits of the union teachers...salaries and benefits that are much more than many of the so-called "bosses" (taxpayers). The taxpayers are fed up.



DomYngBlk -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/22/2011 7:13:23 AM)

Then it is ok to break your word? To dissolve a signed contract? I thought Republicans were for truth, rule of law. State isn't going broke. All it has to do is close some loopholes and cut back on some of the "charity" it offers the rich and big business....and .....surplus!



rulemylife -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/22/2011 7:20:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

It's interesting that the number was originally issued to a woman born in 1897 who died not long before the number was supposedly issued to 0bama0.



It would really, really, really be interesting if you ever offered any proof of what you say.



CreativeDominant -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/22/2011 7:22:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

Then it is ok to break your word? To dissolve a signed contract? I thought Republicans were for truth, rule of law. State isn't going broke. All it has to do is close some loopholes and cut back on some of the "charity" it offers the rich and big business....and .....surplus!

Citations for what you've said about the rich and big business in Wisconsin. And citations to show that money given to these areas...which taxpayers do not have a problem with...would, if given to the teachers' union, not create a problem with those taxpayer bosses.



mnottertail -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/22/2011 7:46:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

It's interesting that the number was originally issued to a woman born in 1897 who died not long before the number was supposedly issued to 0bama0.



It would really, really, really be interesting if you ever offered any proof of what you say.



Heres his undeniable proof.  The governments social security website. It says the first social security number was issued sometime around November of 1936 (which would sorta make sense, since social security was enacted under FDR).  So somehow the conspiracy has wiped out the 1897 non existant social security system, but what is the symbolic significance 0f 1936?  What are these devils up to?

oh, this birther conspiracy is fuckin BIG!!!!!!  BIG!!!! I tell you.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/firstcard.html

But, if she was on social security in 1897 there is a good bet that she was dead by 1936, so that may be how it got issued.


LMFAO....



DomYngBlk -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/22/2011 7:47:07 AM)

http://wills.about.com/b/2010/02/27/estate-taxes-by-state-does-wisconsin-have-an-estate-tax.htm

Will let you google tax incentives for the paper industry. Too many to even begin to list.

Now, show me where the state is bankrupt without the means to raise revenues......Citations please



rulemylife -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/22/2011 7:50:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

quote:

Doesn't matter where you were born. If at least one of your parents was a citizen at the time of your birth, you are a "Natural born citizen"

Those birthers REALLY ought to read the constitution.


No. You really should read Marbury v. Madison:

"It cannot be presumed that any clause in the constitution is intended to be without effect; and therefore such construction is inadmissible, unless the words require it "

It is, thus, inadmissible to argue that "citizen" and "natural born citizen" mean the same thing.

Epic fail.



You really should go to law school before trying to interpret legal decisions.

Epic fail.






DomYngBlk -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/22/2011 7:54:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

Then it is ok to break your word? To dissolve a signed contract? I thought Republicans were for truth, rule of law. State isn't going broke. All it has to do is close some loopholes and cut back on some of the "charity" it offers the rich and big business....and .....surplus!

Citations for what you've said about the rich and big business in Wisconsin. And citations to show that money given to these areas...which taxpayers do not have a problem with...would, if given to the teachers' union, not create a problem with those taxpayer bosses.


Like an answer from you whether you think it is ok to break your word, break a signed contract negotiated legally.



Hillwilliam -> RE: SCOTT WALKER for President (2/22/2011 8:12:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

quote:

Doesn't matter where you were born. If at least one of your parents was a citizen at the time of your birth, you are a "Natural born citizen"

Those birthers REALLY ought to read the constitution.


No. You really should read Marbury v. Madison:

"It cannot be presumed that any clause in the constitution is intended to be without effect; and therefore such construction is inadmissible, unless the words require it "

It is, thus, inadmissible to argue that "citizen" and "natural born citizen" mean the same thing.

Epic fail.






So, you say he wasnt born naturally? Keep twisting it in the wind.

The law of the land holds that anyone born to a US citizen is a citizen no matter where they're born. That is why the US took in a LOT of Vietnamese war orphans during the 70's. They were born as US citizens.
McCain was born off US soil but he was a citizen as his parents were citizens.



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