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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/22/2011 10:49:59 AM   
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The places you go to may alter though. You may find that meeting older women is easier in some places more than others.


Yeah, we old chicks have an earlier bedtime, dont like to dance or go to clubs, hate drinking and could care less about sports.


Let's not forget our naptime, doctors appointments, and how long it takes us to get anywhere because we drive so slow.


Eh? Can you speak up dearie???


Sorry this reply took so long, I lost my spectacles.

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/22/2011 3:40:38 PM   
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Really? Why would it be intriguing? It seems to me to accord perfectly with the basics of male/female selection patterns from a vanilla standpoint and also align well with normally expected patterns of authority. I wouldn't bat an eye in protest because it makes total sense.


Greetings Jeff,

The young woman can be just as inexperienced, irresponsible, and every other adjective being suggested for the male counterpart. If maturity is the real concern then the notion would apply to each party. However, within this community things needn't make logical sense to be accepted as gospel.

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/22/2011 8:31:40 PM   
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The Stalker is right OP ... the 69 isn't giving the impression you want it to give! And I would be one of the women who would tend to go on past instead of giving it a proper read. Because My interest lies beyond the purely sexual, and so many guys have offered to 'lick Me for hours' that it's totally boring! As other Dommes have said, 'if it's taking hours you're not doing it right!' As someone who is both sub and Domme, my sub side wouldn't be attracted to it either!

You can always say your star sign when you start a conversation ... no need to make it that big a deal upfront since there is room for confusion as to its meaning!

I agree on fixing up the spelling etc, want to make a good impression, and the move away from demanding titles is a good one. As I did suggest before, don't make a huge fuss about your age preference ... just go about selecting older women to approach and meet!

Good luck!
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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/22/2011 9:58:07 PM   
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At 21, you'd be more believable as a dominant, than a master.
I would also address women as such, and not dwell on "I like you because you're older," because most of the time, that does not make women hot/wet.    M

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/22/2011 10:26:52 PM   
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So my question for the longest time is how do I go about establishing my self as a young master


Most likely you're a top, possibly a dominant (????), gots tae have sumthin tae Master first.

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thats interested in older woman? I have had great attraction to older woman ever since I was A young boy


Lil squicky there. Shooting thy foot doth impede thy mastery.

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A older woman to is a woman in her late 30s,early 40s and 50s.


Les try it this way... A woman in her 30's, 40's and or 50's really turns my crank.

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Alrighty, you are communicating in a medium that women, all of them, are far better at using than men. We be visual, they be sensual. The largest sex organ we have, and incidentally the one organ that all pleasure originates from, is roughly three feet higher than most people suspect. In this medium if you wanna get yours, yer gonna have to make sure she is gettin hers first.

Use the tools you have, which happens to be your keyboard, to seduce the mind and the body will follow. When you say you have had this attraction since you were a lil kid, you are going to FREAK THEM THE FUCK OUT, cuz they are mothers, aunt's, sisters... blah blah blah, and it will FREAK THEM THE FUCK OUT!
Conversely, saying you have been a kinky lil twisted fucker as far back as you can remember, is going to diddle the clit of their inner freaky lil fucker that has been a freaky lil fucker as far back as they can remember. LESS IS MORE.

It is great to know who you are, what you NEED and know what you want, the delivery is most important. If you are trying to entice a mature woman that fits in your kink, you are going to have to prove and provide that you are a good match for her.

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/22/2011 10:30:02 PM   
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so many guys have offered to 'lick Me for hours' that it's totally boring!


Yew jus hav'nt been slurped properly baby.

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/22/2011 11:44:58 PM   
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The Stalker is right OP ...


You know, upon further review of my name I don't think I should be giving advice on that matter. 

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/22/2011 11:49:03 PM   
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The Stalker is right OP ...


You know, upon further review of my name I don't think I should be giving advice on that matter. 

"Oh no, a back-alley New York City rapist."



SpookyThingThatGoesBumpInTheNight just doesn't have the same ring to it Stalker.

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/22/2011 11:53:10 PM   
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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/22/2011 11:58:29 PM   
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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/23/2011 5:12:59 AM   
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To my defense there is a great deal that I have mastered in my 21 years of life. The reality of the situation is that i should have put more thought and consideration into my profile, which has been clearly obvious to me.


Perhaps. But in focusing on your profile I suspect you're missing a significant part of the reality of this situation. Consider you and I. You have had 3 years as an adult. I've had 29... almost an order of magnitude more. Even if you were kicking ass experiencing life and I was slacking, don't you think it's likely that I've accumulated a fair amount more life experience than you? From the standpoint of a 47 year old woman, the questions would be along the lines of, "How's he going to handle it when the mortgage is going under? Will he know how to deal with banks, credit card companies, employers? What when my 23 year old son "fails to launch" and ends up at home again? How will my 21 year old master cope with that?

Don't get me wrong. These things are not insurmountable problems. And, as we all know, at least some segment of women prefer younger men. Some of those have got to be subs. Some of those have to want a master. But in my opinion, I think you would do well to get a little more perspective on what you're asking.


I think you are the one who could benefit from a broader prescriptive.

Age does not equal experience. It is simply a number that indicates how many years you have lived. Most likely, you also spent the majority of the that time growing older instead of growing up (and you did indeed spend at least a third of it growing old).

"Life experience", as you put it is worthless. I don't see how it's anything to be proud of. After all, it does not make you any wiser.

Let me give you a scenario. Let's say there's a man who lived for 60 years and that for a good 40 years of his life, he had 40 relationships, none of which lasted. He can now often be heard saying, "I have had 40 years of experience with relationships. My advice to you is don't bother."

The word adult seems to thrown around a lot by the elderly but all they really mean is that "I experienced this" and "I experienced that". I will restate again that their experiences were worthless.

It is not the experiences that matter but what is done with them. You don't need to be an adult to understand that, you just need to be capable and that capability can blossom (by accident or design) at any point in a person's lifetime. It's not something that magically happens when you become a person of significantly advanced years.

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It is my belief that the rite of "becoming of age" has nothing to do with the number. It has to do with reaching a certain mindset. There are some who are 50 even 100 who have not even reached that mindset. They are true children and their ages mere decoration.


I agree completely. As far as what it is about smoking and drinking that you will be wiser about when you are of age? Hopefully moderation, discipline, and restraint, but the lack of such things isn't why we prohibit minors from enjoying such things. It's because once you are "of age" it's considered both fair and reasonable to PUNISH you for failing to gain such qualities. That's what it boils down to. Minors lack the maturity, the experience to justify punishing them for failing to act responsible.


I disagree that minors lack the maturity and experience to justify punishing them for failing to act responsible. There is nothing special about minors. Just as there's nothing special about adults.

Individuals are individuals and they should be treated as such.

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I do not mean to be impolite, but a 21 yr old who refers to themselves as a master would be a red flag to me. It is a young age, especially to an old lady like me. I cannot imagine anyone mastering life at that age.


I agree. It is not just mastering life, but mastering himself so that he can master another.

I apologize to the OP for what i am about to say, but at 21 you simply have not been alive long enough to be an expert in all your profile claims. Your responses to other posters tells me you have an open mind, so i hope you do not take offense.

When i was your age i too thought i was an expert in a few things. I assume you are like i was...not arrogant in my thinking, but confusing a skill or talent with expertise. Being good at something does not an expert make. As i have matured i realize that i am an expert at nothing. Every day is a learning experience and the more i learn, the more there is to learn, making the "expert" title farther out of my reach.

There is a massive difference between one with a dominant personality and one who is a true Master. Time and experience will make these differences more clear to you. Enjoy the journey!


You say Anthony hasn't lived long enough to be an expert in all he claims. Give me a 50 year old man and I'll throw your words right at him. Give me a 100 year old woman and I'll do it again.

The universe is so vast. There is so much to learn. So much that we don't understand. How could we dedicate enough to time to become experts in each field? How could we stop the hydra of knowledge from growing more heads?

Undisputed mastery would take a once-in-an-eon genius. An ordinary person simply doesn't have enough lifetimes.

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Following this trend, Age=Maturity=Experience? For pity sake please don't throw that piece of maths at any of the military.

Top Gun Pilots, Pilots of tactical fighter and fighter/bombers are burned out at roughly 25 with the rank of Colonel Squadron Leader). It takes Youth, Immaturity & Inexperience? I think not. I can remember an 20 year old fresh out of Fort Brag promoted (due to prior experience and training) to the rank of Captain of the Special Forces headed to 'Nam for a 5 year stint. Sure he was green, young, inexperienced, and immature. Combat made him grow up when he had to write to the folks of the troopers who were killed. Yep certainly the formula of Age=Maturity=Experience must work mustn't it??????


I understand where you are coming from and I can even relate.

It'd be nice if more people woke up and saw things for what they are.

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Forget titles and worldly position. You don't get that, it gets given to you. You may do everything in the world to earn it, but at the end of the day, who knights himself?


And what is so special about being knighted by another? Say a man achieves a certain deed. Say there was a witness at the end who happened to be someone important. Say for what this witness saw the man receives a knighthood. What the witness didn't know is that to achieve the outcome that made him deserving of the knighthood he forsaked his vows. He sacrificed numerous lives. Under the guise of friendship he betrayed them. Now tell me, what is his knighthood worth even if it was given by another, when he knows it was given based on a lie?

You can let others decides what you are but you'll know what you are. That's because at the end of the day, there is exactly one opinion that matters...

...yours.

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Innisint, true in many ways. But I do feel there is a wide difference from one entering their 20's in this lifestyle and using the title Master. A Lawyer or Doctor at that age would not be considered a master of their trade. I am viewing someone being a master in Ms the same way.
Qualifications comes with experience and that comes with age. I remember being in my early 20's and feeling I had a lot of knowledge in certain areas, but I did not have the years of experience. In time, my so call mastery of some areas were founded by me to be faulty.

Mastery is something we all strive for in a given area or so, but in use of this lifestyle I find the word used too loosely and there is no substance but ego to back it up. It to me is similar to a person saying they are dominant in personality, but they are only domineering. There is a big difference. To make that not age relevant, I have met domineering men of all ages, who claim to be both dominant and/or masters.


Just because someone has 'experience' doesn't mean they are going to utilize it well. There are plenty of rubbish lawyers and doctors out there who have been in practice for years. Sometimes, it takes a newer and younger mind to be open to new ideas, not those set in their ways. If your too young, you are fucked, if you are too old, you are fucked. Everyone comes with positive and negative things... people in general would have relationships that work if they focused on individuals rather than unrealistic expectations.


I agree.

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/23/2011 5:40:40 AM   
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The Stalker is right OP ...


You know, upon further review of my name I don't think I should be giving advice on that matter. 

"Oh no, a back-alley New York City rapist."



Just had to laugh mate, the father of one of my mates was telling us that when he was a rooky cop a day out of the police academy in Melbourne, he was on foot patrol in one of the less salubrious suburbs when he heard a girl screaming rape.. The good lad barreled down the alley way and saw the Back Alley Rapist who on seeing the young cop leaps up and to clear the area tried jumping over some boxes in his way. Smart young cop drew his service revolver and shot at the rapist and then fired the obligatory warning shot. Bugger me dead if his one snap shot didn't hit the Back Alley Rapist in the testes. Not sure what a hollow point 38cal round would do but it must have been fucking painful. (I read the service reports some time ago)

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/23/2011 5:48:05 AM   
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I enjoy the op being "understandfull" about things and post and being civilized about it..Makes for a nice conversation. (excuse my french, my grammar isn't the best )

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/24/2011 1:34:49 AM   
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Nice one gaujein - maybe a touch laboured to make the same point several times, but nice one nonetheless.









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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/24/2011 3:01:40 AM   
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Hmm.  Lots of information imparted, but very little advice that deals with the problem at hand:

OP, you _are_ facing an uphill battle.  In general (please note the phrasing) I find that submissive women tend to prefer older doms.  That is not to say that it's impossible to find someone older that wants a younger dom, it's just more difficult.  Numbers alone suggest that there are more men than women who search for partners.

Listing yourself as expert in some things, well.....that's going to lead to frustration.  I'm going to quote Mark Twain for you:

“When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.”

I have, personally made a great ass out of myself by thinking I knew more than I did on more than one occasion.  It's a failing of youth.  If you are looking for a sub that is older than you then you need to understand that your "expertise" is, at best, just training.

All of that being said: There is no reason not to seek what will float your boat.  Just bear in mind that finding a woman that is an exact match to your desires is virtually impossible - I ran the numbers.  Not on your case, just in general.  There are a lot of questions asked for the profile, all of which have five options; once you pass 10 questions you are past the number of humans who have ever lived (assuming even distribution - but statistics is boring.).

So, unfortunately, that means that you need to wait and not be discouraged by rejection - just like any vanilla guy.  It's not easy to find that slave girl, but it's woorth the wait.

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/24/2011 3:25:13 AM   
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The Stalker is right OP ...


You know, upon further review of my name I don't think I should be giving advice on that matter. 

"Oh no, a back-alley New York City rapist."



Just had to laugh mate, the father of one of my mates was telling us that when he was a rooky cop a day out of the police academy in Melbourne, he was on foot patrol in one of the less salubrious suburbs when he heard a girl screaming rape.. The good lad barreled down the alley way and saw the Back Alley Rapist who on seeing the young cop leaps up and to clear the area tried jumping over some boxes in his way. Smart young cop drew his service revolver and shot at the rapist and then fired the obligatory warning shot. Bugger me dead if his one snap shot didn't hit the Back Alley Rapist in the testes. Not sure what a hollow point 38cal round would do but it must have been fucking painful. (I read the service reports some time ago)



must've been a crack shot to have hit the nether region.

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/24/2011 11:46:04 AM   
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I do understand where your coming from and I do agree. I do have to correct you though and say that I'm not a vanilla guy!

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/24/2011 11:52:52 AM   
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Honestly I haven't the slightest clue on how to change that stupid vanilla ice cream cone to the left of me from saying vanilla to something else!

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/24/2011 12:01:00 PM   
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It's just a forum thing.  The more you post, you eventually go from Vanilla, to Kinky, to Indecent, to Twisted, to Machiavellian Madman.

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/24/2011 12:22:07 PM   
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Honestly I haven't the slightest clue on how to change that stupid vanilla ice cream cone to the left of me from saying vanilla to something else!

That will come with age.


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