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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/21/2011 7:53:10 PM   
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I can't imagine anyone "mastering" life. Once a person is old enough to no longer be a novice at living, death takes them away.
So..as soon as we get good at the game of life, we croak?

Sorta puts a damper on self-improvement, methinks.


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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/21/2011 7:57:45 PM   
anthony69


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Status: offline 		I do find it interesting the various amounts of advice I have been given for personal growth, I'm assuming. It's not that I am immature or lack life skills because thats not the case, it's Me wanting to know a more different approach to finding woman more older than I.

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/21/2011 7:57:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: oceanwynds2

Innisint, true in many ways. But I do feel there is a wide difference from one entering their 20's in this lifestyle and using the title Master. A Lawyer or Doctor at that age would not be considered a master of their trade. I am viewing someone being a master in Ms the same way.
Qualifications comes with experience and that comes with age. I remember being in my early 20's and feeling I had a lot of knowledge in certain areas, but I did not have the years of experience. In time, my so call mastery of some areas were founded by me to be faulty.

Mastery is something we all strive for in a given area or so, but in use of this lifestyle I find the word used too loosely and there is no substance but ego to back it up. It to me is similar to a person saying they are dominant in personality, but they are only domineering. There is a big difference. To make that not age relevant, I have met domineering men of all ages, who claim to be both dominant and/or masters.


IMO, years of experience is over valued. What matters is within a relationship or scene both parties are being fulfilled. Of course with time experience in, say, Shibari will be improved; but if a simple knot is enough to maintain a bondage scene and both people are happy who can judge that the novice isn't really a master at bondage....

This is true in nearly all things. When I was a child I loved children cartoons. Now I find plot holes, lack of character development...a masterful cartoon for children can be unwatchable to me now. The child doesn't care how I judge though...they just laugh and enjoy.

Finally, for those with years of experience in BDSM and think they have mastered some particular skill I'd evaluate myself if I were you. Odds are there is some room for improvement even now. First, focus on improving yourself then judge others. We are all of us works in progress in life and BDSM.

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/21/2011 8:39:24 PM   
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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/21/2011 8:41:04 PM   
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I can't imagine anyone "mastering" life. Once a person is old enough to no longer be a novice at living, death takes them away.
So..as soon as we get good at the game of life, we croak?

Sorta puts a damper on self-improvement, methinks.



oy...oh well, i believe in reincarnation..get to do over again..:)

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/21/2011 9:05:51 PM   
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I have done all once before and was very detailed in what I was good at as fare fetishes go and, what I was looking for in and outside of the kink aspect.


Anthony, I honestly do know how to advise you on going about getting an older woman. My suggestion to drop the master part was mostly my own bias, as I previously mentioned. Most women I know 40 and older have mentioned they would never really want to be in their 20's again. It is a rough decade of growing and learning. Most of them have also watched their children go through that 20's stage and having to keep in mind, we were just as them back then. The good part is I do not know all the women on earth, and there might be plenty who do wish to have someone a lot younger than them. It also comes down to a personal choice.

The only advice that I feel will be proper is to be yourself. I for one do not mind being called older, because i am. Heck I am reaching Crone age, or have:). I wish you luck on your journey.

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/21/2011 9:12:29 PM   
anthony69


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Status: offline 		Hi this anthony69, I re did my account, kept the 69 but ised watersign instead. Any who I do agree with that sentence on us not being able to master being that we as humans die at some in life. In this life there are things that others who have lived longer than I can do better and vise versa. Age should not really matter when the intent is pure and there is motivation backing the individual up.

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/21/2011 9:13:44 PM   
anthony69


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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/21/2011 9:18:08 PM   
anthony69


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Status: offline 		thank you. I do get that the hole master name calling was rather to soon.

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/21/2011 9:21:24 PM   
anthony69


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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/21/2011 9:27:36 PM   
oceanwynds2


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Status: offline 		I do wish you luck. I remember being your age. Dreams and idealogy were poignant in the air. Many still refer to me as one of the original hippies, and will die a hippy. I still hold on to some of those dreams and idealogies, and some people look at me weird. The thing is we are who we are. If a older woman is more your cup of tea, by all means seek one out, but be yourself. It isn't who has been into BDSM the longest that counts, because I have met some with over 40 yrs who are players. What matters is if you can carry on a conversation that would include a woman's interest in serving you. I personally have not been in this lifestyle long, so I would never consider myself well versed in it. I am though well versed in other areas. Nothing seems to make a person smile more, when they can admit their pluses and minuses and want to work on areas that need working on.

Again, I do wish you well on your journey. Keep your idealogy with the knowing that some will change completely and some will change slightly as you experience more life.


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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/21/2011 9:39:02 PM   
anthony69


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Status: offline 		Thank you sunshine, I thought was really sweet of you to say and honest. I will be myself and keep the ideology strong within me.

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/21/2011 9:46:10 PM   
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Thank you sunshine, I thought was really sweet of you to say and honest. I will be myself and keep the ideology strong within me.


That is all you can do. Plus 69 also represents the year I graduated from high school...Was a great year!

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/21/2011 9:51:00 PM   
anthony69


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Status: offline 		Thats pretty interesting. I feel rather lucky now! 69 represents allot of various things now and days.

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/21/2011 9:57:11 PM   
anthony69


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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/21/2011 10:02:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		69 was a great year for me too .. I can back from hell.....

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/22/2011 1:45:06 AM   
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Damn holly... ya left out the porch!

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/22/2011 1:52:38 AM   
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Whereas a +40 year old automatically has? I never understand that logic.
Personally, I believe people would find life so much easier, more positive and brighter if they could get over this whole 'you cannot master others until you master yourself' fallacy.



Where's the fallacy in "you cannot master others until you master yourself"? how can you expect someone to trust you with their greatest gift if the so called "master" doesn't have a full grip over themselves? It's almost the blind leading the blind.


Because it is. I know I didn't have any desire to be with a man who thought he was done and wasn't prepared to grow and thought he'd already done it all. Mastering isn't just about having a grip and that's why so many relationships fail, because people like 'you' want to go into a relationship and have it easy - have it all laid out with a man who has 'mastered' life and will never lose his temper or never make a mistake. Then of course, when he does, because he is human, 'you' get all dispondant and let down because 'you' had unrealistic expectations of mastery in the first place.

Of course it's the blind leading the blind... but don't ever assume that just because a person is blind, makes them unable to live a full and productive life.

*fricking disclaimers - 'you' in the generic sense.

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/22/2011 1:58:28 AM   
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Try one of those long handled back scrubbers Prinnie. Or a loofa

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RE: Being a 21 year old master and wanting older woman. - 2/22/2011 2:05:53 AM   
RCdc


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Innisint, true in many ways. But I do feel there is a wide difference from one entering their 20's in this lifestyle and using the title Master. A Lawyer or Doctor at that age would not be considered a master of their trade. I am viewing someone being a master in Ms the same way.
Qualifications comes with experience and that comes with age. I remember being in my early 20's and feeling I had a lot of knowledge in certain areas, but I did not have the years of experience. In time, my so call mastery of some areas were founded by me to be faulty.

Mastery is something we all strive for in a given area or so, but in use of this lifestyle I find the word used too loosely and there is no substance but ego to back it up. It to me is similar to a person saying they are dominant in personality, but they are only domineering. There is a big difference. To make that not age relevant, I have met domineering men of all ages, who claim to be both dominant and/or masters.


Just because someone has 'experience' doesn't mean they are going to utilize it well. There are plenty of rubbish lawyers and doctors out there who have been in practice for years. Sometimes, it takes a newer and younger mind to be open to new ideas, not those set in their ways. If your too young, you are fucked, if you are too old, you are fucked. Everyone comes with positive and negative things... people in general would have relationships that work if they focused on individuals rather than unrealistic expectations.


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