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RE: What Happened To Democrats. - 2/26/2011 2:06:20 PM

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You and I have differences on many issues, yet we all want to pretend we are in some type of happy middle ground when we are not.

Well, defining oneself as "middle of the road" (so to speak) is still defining oneself. Neither of us is middle of the road on some issues, whereas probably we both may be on others, and on some we're on opposite sides of the road. Stereotyping -- oneself or others -- is rarely productive, or accurate.

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That depends on what you want to call it, defining or stereotyping.

I hold certain views that would not be considered typically liberal but I still define myself as that because the majority of my views fall on that side.

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RE: What Happened To Republicans? - 2/26/2011 6:16:30 PM

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I don't know what happened, or if the Republicans were any sterner in the past, but I have to agree with the general gist of the poster...they do indeed seem like crybabies nowadays.

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RE: What Happened To Republicans? - 2/26/2011 6:52:49 PM

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The seats are important but that's not the only measurement. Both parties aren't popular these days. Republicans did well because people were unhappy with the Democrats performance after they won the House and the Senate and the presidency. Republicans did well because there is not another alternative party to support when voters are unhappy with Democrats.

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RE: What Happened To Democrats. - 2/26/2011 6:54:05 PM

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I don't mind and there's not much I haven't been called here are or other places in my life.

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Brain, way to troll.
you are gonna get everything you deserve for putting this up as a thread
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RE: What Happened To Democrats. - 2/26/2011 6:59:50 PM

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The Republican philosophy only works for the billionaire's or the rich and the corporations. It doesn't work for the middle-class.

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As someone forced to call them self a moderate because of their own sane political views, topics like this illustrate perfectly the mindset that has gotten America into the hole it's in now.

You can point blame all you want, but that won't change the fact that no one cares except for extremists. The rest of us are wading through the mess and trying to piece the shit both sides squandered back together.

So uh, yeah. Thanks for that. Really, thanks.

It's actually the moderates in this country who are to blame for most of this mess. You change tack far too frequently.

For instance if moderates had stuck with the neo cons in the 90's instead of switching to Clinton we would have already had the budget crisis we are now living through. Or if moderates had stuck with centrist Democrats like Clinton and Gore we would likely be well beyond the era of huge deficits.

But instead the constant back and forthing isn't giving any political philosophy a chance to function long enough to really prove if it will work or not.

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RE: What Happened To Democrats. - 2/26/2011 7:01:52 PM

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Actually Bill, you are an annoyance. You're partisanship is such that you are hard to swallow...I hate Left-leaning ideologues as much as I do right-leaning ones.
Its time we just shelved the idiocy and actually discussed issues, and threads like this are no help (yeah I know I have respnded twice to this one when I rarely respond at all, but the point needs making)
Stop trying to score cheap points (they are called "cheap" points for a reason) and actually try to present your ideas and viewpoint in an open and non-partisan manner, otherwise you are just one of the worst of the extremist idiots.

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RE: What Happened To Democrats. - 2/26/2011 7:29:34 PM

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I don't consider myself partisan. I used to be a member of the conservative party. I think corporations and entrepreneurs need to be rewarded for their risk-taking and efforts to make a profit. The problem today is the the growing divide between the haves and the have-nots. It's very difficult for middle-class families to make it these days.

I think middle class workers like teachers, policemen or those in a factory need to be fairly compensated as well. There is definitely enough wealth in the United States or Canada to go around for everyone to live a respectable life and I think it's important not to let what Arianna Huffington talks about in her book Third World America happen.

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Actually Bill, you are an annoyance. You're partisanship is such that you are hard to swallow...I hate Left-leaning ideologues as much as I do right-leaning ones.
Its time we just shelved the idiocy and actually discussed issues, and threads like this are no help (yeah I know I have respnded twice to this one when I rarely respond at all, but the point needs making)
Stop trying to score cheap points (they are called "cheap" points for a reason) and actually try to present your ideas and viewpoint in an open and non-partisan manner, otherwise you are just one of the worst of the extremist idiots.

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RE: What Happened To Democrats. - 2/26/2011 7:33:38 PM

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I don't consider myself partisan.

Fine and I'm the fucking Queen of England!!! You are so partisan it isn't even close to funny. Have the guts to stand up for what you believe and not hide behind the fucking "I'm non-partisan/I'm a moderate/I'm an independent" If you don't have the guts to stand behind your beliefs then shut the fuck up!!

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RE: What Happened To Democrats. - 2/27/2011 5:00:08 AM

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Actually Bill, you are an annoyance. You're partisanship is such that you are hard to swallow...I hate Left-leaning ideologues as much as I do right-leaning ones.
Its time we just shelved the idiocy and actually discussed issues, and threads like this are no help (yeah I know I have respnded twice to this one when I rarely respond at all, but the point needs making)
Stop trying to score cheap points (they are called "cheap" points for a reason) and actually try to present your ideas and viewpoint in an open and non-partisan manner, otherwise you are just one of the worst of the extremist idiots.

Yes Bill, just be a moderate who has no real opinions.

And sway in the wind.

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RE: What Happened To Democrats. - 2/27/2011 7:26:04 AM

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But instead he chose to attack all liberals, not all Democratic Party members, and the attack was vile and repugnant.

Funny, you never seem to mind when someone goes after "all republicans". What is the difference?

Funny I don't see a bridge. Go away troll.

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RE: What Happened To Republicans? - 2/27/2011 7:41:58 AM

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Good question - it's unfortunate for America they've gone so far downhill.

What Happened To Republicans?

Just a bit of a decline, don’t you think?

http://www.prosebeforehos.com/political-ironing/02/24/what-happened-republicans/

Republicans are "man" enough to stay on the job after an election that didn't go their way.

Democrats throw a hissy fit and run away.

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RE: What Happened To Republicans? - 2/27/2011 7:43:15 AM

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Republicans are "man" enough to stay on the job after an election that didn't go their way.

Guess Palin isnt republican enough.

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RE: What Happened To Democrats. - 2/27/2011 8:03:40 AM

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What Happened To Democrats.

I'm so uterly fucking sick and tired of idiotic conservatives attacking the patriotism of those on the left.

Get this through your thick heads, we are just as patriotic as you are, we just happen to disagree with you on some things.

And I've had it with chickenshit liberals calling themselves as patriotic as conservatives.

Know this, we conservatives have more patriotism in our little pinky that you liberals have in your entire body.

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RE: What Happened To Democrats. - 2/27/2011 8:09:23 AM

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Prove conservatives are more patriotic than liberals. I dare you to even attempt it.

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RE: What Happened To Republicans? - 2/27/2011 8:11:42 AM

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Republicans are "man" enough to stay on the job after an election that didn't go their way.

Guess Palin isnt republican enough.

Looks like you aren't intelligent enough to comprehend what the " " meant.

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RE: What Happened To Republicans? - 2/27/2011 8:13:30 AM

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Nope, got it exactly.

You are saying Repulicans will stay around even after losing an election.

Palin lost the VP, then went back to Alaska and quit.

Not republican enough, by your standards.

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RE: What Happened To Democrats. - 2/27/2011 8:16:29 AM

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Prove conservatives are more patriotic than liberals. I dare you to even attempt it.

I dare you to dare DomKen to prove liberals are just as patriotic as conservatives. He went there before I did.

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RE: What Happened To Democrats. - 2/27/2011 8:17:41 AM

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Im not talking to him at the moment. Im talking to you. Why didnt you dare him to prove it instead of insisting conservatives are more patriotic? Do you even know what "patriotic" means?

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RE: What Happened To Democrats. - 2/27/2011 8:20:43 AM

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He cant, you know he cant, hes all mouth and little else!
He is a liar!

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RE: What Happened To Republicans? - 2/27/2011 9:32:56 AM

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Nope, got it exactly.

You are saying Repulicans will stay around even after losing an election.

Palin lost the VP, then went back to Alaska and quit.

Not republican enough, by your standards.

Nope, you got it all wrong.

I was saying the WI, Ohio, Indiana Dems have all left town after losing the November 2010 election.

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