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RE: Helping partner top me - 3/1/2011 6:27:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BadassDorothy

Aim very interested in bdsm. I have had lots of fun in a previous relationship where I was given a chance to explore my dominant side, while also being dominated in return. I love my current partner and intend to be with him forever, and I'm allowed to see other women so I still have an outlet, but I want to share this with him. I know that he likes the idea of bdsm (I even have concerns that he might like inflicting more pain than I enjoy receiving) but he's not good at it. He won't let me even begin to dominate him, which would be fine if he was willing to truly dominate me, but he doesn't. I think a large part of it is a lack of creativity. He enjoys the things I Suggest usually, but I can't feel like he's in control if I'm constantly directing him. How can I help him become a better Dom?

Please don't reply with any suggestions that what I need to do is find someone else, as I said before I love him and I want to share this with him.


If he loved you then he'd be the one asking this question.

Think about that while I brush my hair.




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RE: Helping partner top me - 3/1/2011 6:54:52 PM   
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RE: Helping partner top me - 3/1/2011 10:40:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker

If he loved you then he'd be the one asking this question.

Think about that while I brush my hair.




I will now forever look at your pic and think:

"IWHIPMYHAIRBACKANDFORTHIWHIPMYHAIRBACKANDFORTHIWHIPMYHAIRBACKANDFORTHIWHIPMYHAIRBACKANDFORTHIWHIPMYHAIRBACKANDFORTHIWHIPMYHAIRBACKANDFORTHIWHIPMYHAIRBACKANDFORTHIWHIPMYHAIRBACKANDFORTH"

Thanks a lot for that one NS.


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RE: Helping partner top me - 3/2/2011 4:24:54 AM   
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You go girlfriend.

*Gay hand gesture*


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RE: Helping partner top me - 3/2/2011 8:21:06 PM   
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OP, as well as the suggested books and perhaps you could put on your big girl pants and be the first to attend a munch on your own ... then he might just be persuaded to accompany you next time (that's how I did it!), a good website with lots of info is albanypowerexchange.

We can't tell if he really does have a Top or Dominant hiding inside himself, he may do, he may not. But exposure to information and then having a SUPPORTIVE partner to try it out with is likely the only way he will find out whether he does or doesn't.

So how can you improve feedback during play without feeling like YOU are in control instead of him? Here's a couple of ideas:
1) Get most of your discussion out of the way BEFORE you play. Well before, preferably. Talk long and often about experiences, what has worked for you in the past, and why, and what hasn't and why. Talk about limits. Encourage him to take all this information, and use it to plan HIS own 'scene' or play session, so He can be pretty sure it will be OK with you, but it will be His plan. Talk especially about aftercare, what you AND HE need then.

2) Together devise a system of feedback that minimises what you have to say but gives Him necessary info during a scene. Safewords are obviously a help here, especially if you use the traffic light system and emphasise the middle colour (orange/yellow/amber, whatever you call it!). Agree to play till you call that middle colour - works especially well with impact play (which is where a lot of men seize up having been conditioned not to hit women). So He is to increase the intensity in the sure knowledge that when it's about as much as you can take you WILL call the safeword. And make sure you DO call it, perhaps even a bit sooner than max at first (or when you sense He is getting unduly nervous about going further). This should increase His confidence considerably that He is not REALLY hurting you seriously. The only caveat with this is if you are the type that floats off into subspace really easily and can't use a safeword for this type of situation. I also use a numbering system by which a sub can tell Me where they think they are for subspace levels, so I have their perceptions as well as My own judgement from observation. (Ask Me on the other side if you're interested in that, others have found it useful).

3) Make sure you both debrief every play session together. Some can do it straight away, after the aftercare, some need a day or 3 to process it all before discussing it. Find what works for you both and make sure you do it. Those who aren't good at putting it into verbal words may find writing it in a journal or email easier (both D and s). In fact, encourage Him to keep a Dom journal of His first steps along the journey (and you should do likewise), it's great to look back on, to see progress, and to pick you up if you have a 'failure'. I have found this is the best way to avoid misunderstandings and to build confidence and trust.

Good luck from here
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RE: Helping partner top me - 3/2/2011 9:07:11 PM   
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A lot of the time, the problem is that domination/submission doesn't feel 'real' to a newbie, especially someone who hasn't explored their feelings on edge play too much.

So what you might try is something like this - instead of a list of books and suggestions, just talk about wanting to test your body, to see what it can do when it's under his direction. Testing different ways to turn off your mind and just be, and that you don't know exactly how that might be done but you want him to try to help you figure it out.

Then say, "ok, maybe this saturday if you're up for it, I want to spend some time completely submissive to you. You can get me to do anything... I want you to test me and see how far I can go in new directions. Do you think you can come up with some things to try out on me by then?"

It can be any day, as long as it gives him some time to think and fantasize about what he might do.
That's a lot more concrete than just 'dominate me.' Honestly, the place to start with any activity is to first figure out what you've got and where you are, so put the question to him like that.


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