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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/1/2011 9:09:07 AM   
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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/1/2011 7:13:50 PM   
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6 months of food stored?

Are you for real?

You love the NWO.  How could you stack food and guns?   You celebrate the UN, the NWO, forced vaccinations,  cloud seeding, and building 7 lies.

Now lets cut to the chase.

How many bonuses has Wall street gotten - and off of whos backs.  You are on Disability.  Is it any puzzle that there has been no COLA for 3 years- while living costs have gone up?

Who is the nut here.

Silver is up today.  I am good.



pahunk, I also have an insurance pension, not that it is of any importance.

However, I look at what mankind cannot control, such as the increased volcanic activity in a few of the super volcanoes around the world. If just one erupts, the resulting ash in the atmosphere would disrupt air traffic, affect climate among other things.

If Yellowstone erupts, you can forget about anything being grown in the grain belt of the United States, it will all be under ash.

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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/1/2011 7:16:55 PM   
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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/1/2011 7:22:43 PM   
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From where I come from, this kind of activety is common, get the deals when they are on and store.

But as the food in the shops appears to be rapidly rising in price these days, myself on a low income, I notice it all too well, my emergency food store gets hacked into more often than it used to.


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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/1/2011 7:36:46 PM   
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If Yellowstone erupts, you can forget about


you can forget about the USA - we will go the way of the Minoans.  

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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/1/2011 7:39:11 PM   
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part of American society is paranoid.


False analogy - most of the other categories you mentioned aren't aggressive proselytizers for their category.

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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/1/2011 7:55:15 PM   
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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/1/2011 8:06:09 PM   
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Think of the hardcore theorists as canaries in the coal mine. If they suddenly vanish, we might have a problem.

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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/1/2011 8:42:26 PM   
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hardcore theorists as canaries in the coal mine. If they suddenly vanish, we might have a problem


Good point.  But that doesn't mean that they are anything more - when you have a major political party influenced by the likes of Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin, what the canaries are saying is that our schools are failing to teach basic thinking skills, if those 2 can draw a 4 figure audience 2 nights in a row.

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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/1/2011 10:24:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		So it's from paranoia to partisan potshots to a jab at the education system, and back to the Beck/Palin thing.

I've seen some shotgun replies before, but that's quite a spread pattern you've got there.

Getting back to the subject of the thread, I don't know that we should just dismiss the threat because kooks try to make money off it. Maybe it's just weirdos like me that will read the wrong technology article after properly spicy Mexican seafood, while living with the trauma of having read 1984 too young. It's easy, under such circumstances, to lie awake and wonder if your health insurance company is buying the data from that grocery discount card. If there was excessive cilantro in the salsa, easy even to wonder about the sort of technology on the shelf today, and what sort of an authoritarian nightmare state would be available to a modern tyrant.

Fortunately, there is always the comfort of knowing just how incompetent the government is with clever plans.

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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/1/2011 10:44:12 PM   
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Has Part of American Society become Paranoid ?

Well, I thought American society was always paranoid, I mean look at your government through the twentieth Century, arming itself to the teeth and even searching for the latest bogeyman under the bed.

Perhaps the reality is Americans are scared of Americans are more scared of Americans than anyone else, for there is always an enemy lurking where you least expect it, the question being who or what is it, so one must be prepared, willing and ready to defend oneself against who or whatever. Which is the same as the country whole and the intelligence/ military with their search for the bogeyman to defend against.

Mind, is I were a Yank, I would be exactly the same, as the government, any government, I just do not trust.

I suppose of those that answer to the survivalist mentality, the question should be asked, do they like, support, or respect authority ?


And which government is always the U.S. lapdog?

Maybe you should be questioning there first.



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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/1/2011 11:03:47 PM   
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if your health insurance company is buying the data from that grocery discount card


the question, it seems to me, is always so what if they are? 

There's plenty of good cause to be pissed off at leadership failures.   It's hard to dispute that the financial industry has raped the country, and our politicians have sucked them off.    Question is whether there's any conscious action - it seems that many should have known, but it seems just as likely that it's the result of individual and institutional blindness, not any specific plan.    OTOH, does anybody doubt that Bush outed Plame?   And what was Reagan's role in Iran-contra?  Was he a liar, or was he merely a dullard?   And how can anybody forget Tricky Dick - "I am not a crook" Nixon?

Go to a slightly smaller scale, and it seems fair to say that Enron involved some conspiracy, and affected the economy.   And when the GOP makes Sarah Palin a VP candidate, knowing this is the sort of person who doesn't have a clue why scientists study fruit flies, you have to ask, exactly what the fuck is going on?   Are these people really that brain dead and unaware?  Or are they playing to the crowd for advantage?  Or are they desperate?  Or what combination?

And Sarah Palin is not an anomaly.  Look at Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh - incredible ratings selling drivel - if they were selling cars, they'd be in jail inside a month.

Are they paranoid?  Or merely entertainers?  The paranoid style typically observes something going wrong (as things often do) but is too lazy or frightened to figure out what is going on.   You know the sort of person who looks at the surface and insists that they understand, and absolutely refuse to look more closely.

But is there cause for suspicion?  Damn straight there is.  The question is, what about, and why?   I would suggest the paranoid is the fellow who is more attached to his beliefs than his evidence.


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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/1/2011 11:25:28 PM   
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Has Part of American Society become Paranoid ?

Well, I thought American society was always paranoid, I mean look at your government through the twentieth Century, arming itself to the teeth and even searching for the latest bogeyman under the bed.

Perhaps the reality is Americans are scared of Americans are more scared of Americans than anyone else, for there is always an enemy lurking where you least expect it, the question being who or what is it, so one must be prepared, willing and ready to defend oneself against who or whatever. Which is the same as the country whole and the intelligence/ military with their search for the bogeyman to defend against.

Mind, is I were a Yank, I would be exactly the same, as the government, any government, I just do not trust.

I suppose of those that answer to the survivalist mentality, the question should be asked, do they like, support, or respect authority ?


And which government is always the U.S. lapdog?

Maybe you should be questioning there first.





Oh, that's easy, it is them and us, they line their own nests and look after their own interests and bollocks to the rest of us, we are certainly not in it all together, we are just the stupid voters who still cling to ideas of a democratic society. and we are used then forotten about.

I believe a healthy view of what rules us,  I simply, don't trust them, and if that is paranoia, then I  would rather be paranoid and aware than not and believing in a system that is supposed to work in theory, but more often than not, doesn't in practice.

Us compared to the US, well, the understanding is you lot tend to trust authority, whereas here, we tend not to and our voting is usually based upon the lesser of all evils, not the best candidate, perhaps the UK is tired of the political system we have, so we seek someone in charge who is less likely to mess up the mess more than it already is.

But, a personal maxim, always question authority


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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/1/2011 11:40:12 PM   
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alleged conspiracy

Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
I like this saying.    Unfortunately, it's what makes it problematic, because paranoia feeds on itself.   

As to whether (North) Americans were becoming increasingly paranoid, I would say yes; but there is plenty of historical fact to feed it, if one were very well read, and inclined that way.    M

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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/2/2011 4:51:46 AM   
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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/2/2011 4:59:21 AM   
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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/2/2011 5:00:18 AM   
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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/2/2011 7:10:19 AM   
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Does anyone use a correct name on those frequent shopper cards?


LOL!  Or online - or to the Border Patrol.

Actually, those are all pretty amateur.  You join the pros when you start up corporations @ $1,500 a crack just to establish another name for a controlled bank account.

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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/2/2011 7:14:05 AM   
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quite a spread pattern you've got there


Sorry you can't follow it - but I submit that proves my point, that American education has failed if I need to connect the dots at one inch intervals for you.

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RE: Has part of American Society become paranoid? - 3/2/2011 3:33:50 PM   
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Part of American society is paranoid but it’s a small part. And to answer your question, people who are not well educated can believe stupid things.





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