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RE: Let's just settle this shit once and for all, I'm s... - 3/6/2011 12:37:50 AM   
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The point is - they define themselves, not you or I.

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RE: Let's just settle this shit once and for all, I'm s... - 3/6/2011 6:00:38 AM   
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The point is - they define themselves, not you or I.

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That was the point, in case it was missed; they obstinately "define" themselves at every opportunity via the ostentatious garb, announcing to the world they find themselves in that they participate in this country to the extent they derive economic benefit thereby, but they clearly have no use for people of other beliefs elsewise. {But here is my silly cap or black outfit to tell you that my religion and my race is superior to yours, and I obviously have no interest in "fitting in" otherwise.}

While we're at it, this seems to be heading in somewhat the same direction as Hillwilliam's thread about the de facto language of this country, but less de facto for some than for others.


Considering all the different places that contemporary Americans have come from, what a total cacophony it would be if everybody pushed their religion and ethnicity upon us so persistently. After the third generation or so, most of us do not speak the "home" language anymore, and a good many of us do not even care or understand that your or my ancestors came to these shores speaking only Polish, or German, or French, or Italian, or a truly obscure language such as Irish (my GG grandad, e.g.).

Oh, but wouldn't this country be so much more 'advanced' and be at such a higher plateau if along with the silly skull caps or turbans we could also enjoy kilts, lederhosen, alpine hats, or otherwise basically having to have the visual equivalent of "La Marseillaise" or "Deutschland Über Alles" or "God Save The Queen" blasted into our consciousness on every public occasion.



"My religion and my race are superior, I am only here for the money, thank you for the opportunity."


Good PR, n'est-ce pas?


I am not talking about those of a particular ethnicity or religious understanding, being that most of us participate in this society many times not even knowing what church or synagogue or mosque or tree others attend for their own worship, or whether they attend any of that at all, being as that the vast majority of us do not feel the need to lord it over others. But make up your mind if you want to be here or not; I understand if you find the home country preferable, but if that's the case, act accordingly and do yourself and your family the favor of locating yourselves thuswise.







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RE: Let's just settle this shit once and for all, I'm s... - 3/6/2011 8:37:49 AM   
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Every thread that has to do with Israel ends up in a flame war. That doesn't bother me. You know what else, what they do over there doesn't bother me either except for what they do with their US foreign aid, which is the highest in the world, although they do not have the greatest need. Thank AIPAC for that. They just funnel enough money back to lobby for more money. It should be stopped but I really don't care after seeing the other waste going on. It doesn't matter.

Bring your bullsit here. Answer one question. Just one question. All youse schmart folks oughtta be able to answer one simple question. If not both sides of this argument will have no respect on which to count from me. I have one question. I would like it handled as a debate rather than a flamewar, if you are up to it. Consider it a test.

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Answer this one question :

What causes anti-Semitism ?

I am unlikely to post again in this thread. But boys and girls (and anyone in between), you are under scrutiny now. Your responses will determine some things for me, after careful judgement. Remember I don't care what they do over there, only what they do here.

Anyone up to it ?

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Jewish Persecution | Timeline of Judaism | History of AntiSemitism Lesser Known Highlights of Jewish International
Relations In The Common Era (an Abbreviated sampling) DATE PLACE EVENT

250 C.E.       Canhage Expulsion
224 C.E. Italy Forced Conversion
325 C.E. Jerusalem Expulsion
351 C.E Persia Book Burning
357 C.E. Italy Property Confiscation
379 C.E. Milan Synagogue Burning
415 C.E. Alexandria Expulsion
418 C.E. Minorca Forced Conversion
469 C.E. Ipahan Holocaust
489 C.E. Antioch Synagogue Burning
506 C.E. Daphne Synagogue Burning
519 C.E. Ravenna Synagogue Burning
554 C.E. Diocese of Clement (France) Expulsion
561 C.E. Diocese of Uzes (France) Expulsion
582 C.E Merovingia Forced Conversion
612 C.E. Visigoth Spain Expulsion
628 C.E. Byzantium Forced Conversion
629 C.E. Merovingia Forced Conversion
633 C.E. Toledo Forced Conversion
638 C.E. Toledo Stake Burnings
642 C.E. Visigothic Empire Expulsion
653 C.E. Toledo Expulsion
681 C.E. Spain Forced Conversion
693 C.E. Toledo Jews Enslaved
722 C.E. Byzantium Judaism Outlawed
855 C.E. Italy Expulsion
876 C.E. Sens Expulsion
897 C.E. Narbonne Land Confiscation
945 C.E. Venice Ban on Sea Travel
1009 C.E. Orleans Massacre
1012 C.E. Rouen, Limoges & Rome Massacre
1012 C.E. Mayence Expulsion
1021 C.E. Rome Jews Burned Alive
1063 C.E. Spain Massacre
1095 C.E. Lorraine Massacre
1096 C.E. Northern France & Germany 1/3 of Jewish Population Massacred
1096 C.E. Hungary Massacre
1096 C.E. Ralisbon Massacre
1099 C.E. Jerusalem Jews Burned Alive
1100 C.E. Kiev Pogrom
1140 C.E. Germany Massacres
1146 C.E. Rhine Valley Massacre
1147 C.E. Wurzburg Massacre
1147 C.E. Belitz (Germany) Jews Burned Alive
1147 C.E. Carenton, Ramenu & Sully (France) Massacres
1171 C.E. Blois Stake Burnings
1181 C.E. France Expulsion
1181 C.E. England Property Confiscation
1188 C.E. London & York Mob Attacks
1190 C.E. Norfolk Jews Burned Alive
1191 C.E. Bray (France) Jews Burned Alive
1195 C.E. France Property Confiscation
1209 C.E. Beziers Massacre
1212 C.E. Spain Rioting and blood bath against the Jews of Toledo.
1215 C.E. Rome Lateran Council of Rome decrees that Jews must wear the "badge of shame" in all Christian countries. Jews are denied all public sector employment, and are burdened with extra taxes.
1215 C.E. Toulouse (France) Mass Arrests
1218 C.E. England Jews Forced to Wear Badges
1231 C.E. Rome Inquisition Established
1236 C.E. France Forced Conversion/Massacre
1239 C.E. London Massacre & Property Confiscation
1240 C.E. Austria Property confiscation. Jews either imprisoned, converted, expelled, or burned.
1240 C.E. France Talmud Confiscated
1240 C.E. England Book Burning
1240 C.E. Spain Forced Conversion
1242 C.E. Paris Talmud Burned
1244 C.E. Oxford Mob Attacks
1255 C.E. England Blood libel in Lincoln results in the burning / torture of many Jews & public hangings.
1261 C.E. Canterbury Mob Attacks
1262 C.E. London Mob Attacks
1264 C.E. London Mob Attacks
1264 C.E. Germany Council of Vienna declares that all Jews must wear a "pointed dunce cap." Thousands murdered.
1267 C.E. Vienna Jews Forced to Wear Horned Hats
1270 C.E. Weissenberg, Magdeburg, Arnstadt, Coblenz, Singzig, and Erfurt Jews Burned Alive
1270 C.E. England The libel of the "counterfeit coins" - all Jewish men, women and children in England imprisoned. Hundreds are hung.
1276 C.E. Bavaria Expulsion
1278 C.E. Genoa (Spain) Mob Attacks
1279 C.E. Hungary & Poland The Council of Offon denies Jews the right to all civic positions. The Jews of Hungary & Poland are forced to wear the "red badge of shame."
1283 C.E. Mayence & Bacharach Mob Attacks
1285 C.E. Munich Jews Burned Alive
1290 C.E. England King Edward I issues an edict banishing all Jews from England. Many drowned.
1291 C.E. France The Jewish refugees from England are promptly expelled from France.
1292 C.E. Italy Forced conversions & expulsion of the Italian Jewish community.
1298 C.E. Germany The libel of the "Desecrated Host" is perpetrated against the Jews of Germany. Approximately 150 Jewish communities undergo forced conversion.
1298 C.E. Franconia, Bavaria & Austria Reindfel's Decree is propagated against the Jews of Franconia and Bavarai. Riots against these Jewish communities, as well as those in Austria, result in the massacre of 100,000 Jews over a six-month period.
1306 C.E. France Expulsion
1308 C.E. Strasbourg Jews Burned Alive
1320 C.E. Toulouse & Perpigon 120 Communities Massacred & Talmud Burned
1321 C.E. Teruel Public Executions
1328 C.E. Estella 5,000 Jews Slaughtered
1348 C.E. France & Spain Jews Burned Alive
1348 C.E. Switzerland Expulsion
1349 C.E. Worms, Strasbourg, Oppenheim, Mayence, Erfurt, Bavaria & Swabia Jews Burned Alive
1349 C.E. Heilbronn (Germany) Expulsion
1349 C.E. Hungary Expulsion
1354 C.E. Castile (Spain) 12,000 Jews Slaughtered
1368 C.E. Toledo 8,000 Jews Slaughtered
1370 C.E. Majorca., Penignon & Barcelona Mob Attack
1377 C.E. Huesca (Spain) Jews Burned Alive
1380 C.E. Paris Mob Attack
1384 C.E. Nordlingen Mass Murder
1388 C.E. Strasbourg Expulsion
1389 C.E. Prague Mass Slaughter & Book Burning
1391 C.E. Castille, Toledo, Madrid, Seville, Cordova, Cuenca & Barcelona Forced Conversions & Mass Murder
1394 C.E. Germany Expulsion
1394 C.E. France Expulsion
1399 C.E. Posen (Poland) Jews Burned Alive
1400 C.E. Prague Stake Burnings
1407 C.E. Cracow Mob Attack
1415 C.E. Rome Talmud Confiscated
1422 C.E. Austria Jews Burned Alive
1422 C.E. Austria Expulsion
1424 C.E. Fribourg & Zurich Expulsion
1426 C.E. Cologne Expulsion
1431 C.E. Southern Germany Jews Burned Alive
1432 C.E. Savory Expulsion
1438 C.E. Mainz Expulsion
1439 C.E. Augsburg Expulsion
1449 C.E. Toledo Public Torture &. Burnings
1456 C.E. Bavaria Expulsion
1453 C.E. Franconia Expulsion
1453 C.E. Breslau Expulsion
1454 C.E. Wurzburg Expulsion
1463 C.E. Cracow Mob Attack
1473 C.E. Andalusia Mob Attack
1480 C.E. Venice Jews Burned Alive
1481 C.E. Seville Stake Burnings
1484 C.E. Cuidad Real, Guadalupe, Saragossa & Teruel Jews Burned Alive
1485 C.E. Vincenza (Italy) Expulsion
1486 C.E. Toledo Jews Burned Alive
1488 C.E. Toledo Stake Burnings
1490 C.E. Toledo Public Executions
1491 C.E. Astorga Public Torture & Execution
1492 C.E. Spain Expulsion
1495 C.E. Lithuania Expulsion
1497 C.E. Portugal Expulsion
1499 C.E. Germany Expulsion
1506 C.E. Lisbon Mob Attack
1510 C.E. Berlin Public Torture & Execution
1514 C.E. Strasbourg Expulsion
1519 C.E. Regensburg Expulsion
1539 C.E. Cracow & Portugal Stake Burnings
1540 C.E. Naples Expulsion
1542 C.E. Bohemia Expulsion
1550 C.E. Genoa Expulsion
1551 C.E. Bavaria Expulsion
1555 C.E. Pesaro Expulsion
1556 C.E. Sokhachev (Poland) Public Torture & Execution
1559 C.E. Austria Expulsion
1561 C.E. Prague Expulsion
1567 C.E. Wurzburg Expulsion
1569 C.E. Papal States Expulsion
1571 C.E. Brandenburg Expulsion
1582 C.E. Netherlands Expulsion
1593 C.E. Brunswick Expulsion
1597 C.E. Cremona, Pavia & Lodi Expulsion
1614 C.E. Frankfort Expulsion
1615 C.E. Worms Expulsion
1619 C.E. Kiev Expulsion
1635 C.E. Vilna Mob Attack
1637 C.E. Cracow Public Torture & Execution
1647 C.E. Lisbon Jews Burned Alive
1648 C.E. Poland 1/3 of Jewry Slaughtered
1649 C.E. Ukraine Expulsion
1649 C.E. Hamburg Expulsion
1652 C.E. Lisbon Stake Burnings
1654 C.E. Little Russia Expulsion
1656 C.E. Lithuania Expulsion
1660 C.E. Seville Jews Burned Alive
1663 C.E Cracow Public Torture &. Execution
1664 C.E. Lemberg Mob Attack
1669 C.E. Oran (North Africa) Expulsion
1670 C.E. Vienna Expulsion
1671 C.E. Minsk Mob Attacks
1681 C.E. Vilna Mob Attacks
1682 C.E. Cracow Mob Attacks
1687 C.E. Posen Mob Attacks
1712 C.E. Sandomir Expulsion
1727 C.E. Russia Expulsion
1738 C.E. Wurtemburg Expulsion
1740 C.E. Liule Russia Expulsion
1744 C.E Bohemia Expulsion
1744 C.E. Livonia Expulsion
1745 C.E. Moravia Expulsion
1753 C.E. Kovad (Lithuania) Expulsion
1757 C.E. Kamenetz Talmud Burning
1761 C.E. Bordeaux Expulsion
1768 C.E. Kiev 3,000 Jews Slaughtered
1772 C.E. Russia Expulsion
1775 C.E. Warsaw Expulsion
1789 C.E. Alsace Expulsion
1801 C.E. Bucharest Mob Attack
1804 C.E. Russian Villages Expulsion
1808 C.E. Russian Countryside Expulsion
1815 C.E. Lubeck & Bremen Expulsion
1820 C.E. Bremes Expulsion
1843 C.E. Austria & Prussia Expulsion
1850 C.E. New York City 500 People, Led by Police, Attacked & Wrecked Jewish Synagogue
1862 C.E. Area under General Grant's Jurisdiction in the United States Expulsion
1866 C.E Galatz (Romania) Expulsion
1871 C.E. Odena Mob Attack
1887 C.E. Slovakia Mob Attacks
1897 C.E. Kantakuzenka (Russia) Mob Attacks
1898 C.E. Rennes (France) Mob Attack
1899 C.E. Nicholayev Mob Attack
1900 C.E. Konitz (Prussia) Mob Attack
1902 C.E. Poland Widespread Pogroms
1904 C.E. Manchuria, Kiev & Volhynia Widespread Pogroms
1905 C.E. Zhitomir (Yolhynia) Mob Attacks
1919 C.E Bavaria Expulsion
1915 C.E. Georgia (U.S.A.) Leo Frank Lynched
1919 C.E. Prague Wide Spread Pogroms
1920 C.E. Munich & Breslau Mob Attacks
1922 C.E. Boston, MA Lawrence Lowell, President of Harvard, calls for Quota Restrictions on Jewish Admission
1926 C.E. Uzbekistan Pogrom
1928 C.E. Hungary Widespread Anti-Semitic Riots on University Campuses
1929 C.E. Lemberg (Poland) Mob Attacks
1930 C.E. Berlin Mob Attack
1933 C.E. Bucharest Mob Attacks
1938-45 C.E. Europe Holocaus




seems they have a long history of pissing people and nations off.

Where I have a problem is that the focus was put on jews the last 10 years which takes the focus off of the anti-muslimism that is going on right under our noses and that many are guilty of right here and now today.

funny how that works.


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RE: Let's just settle this shit once and for all, I'm s... - 3/6/2011 9:28:59 AM   
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One should not believe in an ism, in my opinion isms are not good...

hmmmmm.... I heard something like that somewhere before.

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RE: Let's just settle this shit once and for all, I'm s... - 3/6/2011 11:09:30 AM   
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"funny how that works."

Funny how when I look at your list I don't see any reference to Krystallnacht. Could that be because it was not the action of a government or a church ? That doesn't make sense because the 1928 riots in Hungary are on the list. So as lengthy as that list may be, it is not exhaustive.

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RE: Let's just settle this shit once and for all, I'm s... - 3/6/2011 11:11:05 AM   
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"One should not believe in an ism, in my opinion isms are not good... "

I agree with you about 150%, but for one exception.

Individualism.

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RE: Let's just settle this shit once and for all, I'm s... - 3/6/2011 6:44:38 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"One should not believe in an ism, in my opinion isms are not good... "

I agree with you about 150%, but for one exception.

Individualism.

T^T


Ohhh, thank you. That is a excellent point.

Perhaps a conference channeling with John is in order....

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RE: Let's just settle this shit once and for all, I'm s... - 3/6/2011 9:31:24 PM   
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One should not believe in an ism, in my opinion isms are not good...


Oh right, so you're into nihilism, then?

But you're not into liberalism, nor Americanism?

But, seriously . . . the most convinced subscribers to ideologies are always those who don't believe that they have any 'ideologies'. Their world simply 'is', so they like to believe. Except that they don't even believe that they're into 'believing' anything, as such: they just 'know it'. Sarah-Palinism is a perfect example.

For instance: I love telling Tory-farty people here in the UK that I'm not 'into monarchism'. They fondly imagine that arselicking our monarchy is somehow just the ordinary, natural, commonsense thing to do and that those who aren't into it are 'republicans' who have bought into a weird, far-out ideology called 'republicanism'. It really fries their brains to be told that they're quaint people who are into an 'ism' - that is, 'monarchism', and that it's in fact they who have the odd, silly belief and that it's *they* who need to defend their belief rather than anti-monarchists who need to defend their lack of this 'ism'.

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