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LadyPact -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 3:20:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM
Whole point of this thread was about how to preserve oneself for that special someone. Few, if anyone, has taken this serious point seriously.

Here's a shot in the dark.

Let's say that a person has made themselves absolutely miserable beyond compare due to their loneliness.  Through his own acts and attitudes, he has managed to build his own prison where he is nothing but a wretched creature living in his own solitary confinement.  In his own desperation, he attempts to grasp at anything that will allow him to continue to survive, rather than succumb to his own wish to escape his own torture.

When the human spirit is pushed to the brink, a person may adopt any method of coping that allows the survival instinct to be triggered.  For such a man, he might desperately attempt to get attention from others.  Any attention, as it relieves him momentarily from focusing on how pathetic his life has become.  It is a way for him to hold out hope that someday, somehow, some person will free him of his prison of isolation.  Even the most negative attention is better than nothing.  Just the same as the worst disgusting food can still feed a person who is starving to death.

The mind, when faced with great suffering, can allow insanity to be the only path for survival.  A person can absolutely go mad from their own form of solitary confinement.  Mentally, a person will grab on to any coping mechanism that will suit the purpose.  Of course, the person doesn't know this process is happening.  It is all on the subconscious level.  Their sanity slips away to make their condition bearable.

In many cases, the problem with this is that it is no help to the person who has driven themselves insane.  It only puts a greater wall between themselves and other people.





BenevolentM -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 4:32:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LonDom61

And faith is required because you make extraordinary claims with no evidence?


I am not claiming that the central tenets of Christianity are logical. Logic has bounds and meters, however. There are things that cannot be understood logically. The central tenets of Christianity are, however, desirable. Who wants to be all dressed up and have no place to go? There is evidence. The evidence merely eludes you. It is obvious to me that He is worthy of my admiration. He is my hero. Perhaps you could say that I'm well intentioned, but naive.

It is beyond imagination that a prophecy such as this could ever come to pass. What I do know is that the generosity of God is beyond reckoning and there is much work ahead of me.

People, the topic of this thread is how to preserve you for that special someone. Preserve does not mean, gee people. What I wrote is not that opaque!

BOUNTYHUNTER seemed to grasp what I was talking about even though everything he wrote was in caps. See post 35. In response to bounty hunter: I agree with you fully. You have to move on, but it does not mean that you will ever truly be free and do you want to be truly free? Love is meaningful. It is unjust not to be all that you can be for that special someone who is in your future; even if that special someone is God.




VaguelyCurious -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 4:50:15 PM)

I think this man may well be my favourite troll ever.

I mean, fuck it, Jesus is on the messageboard.

Can we keep him? Canwecanwecanwe? Please?




FukinTroll -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 4:53:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

I think this man may well be my favourite troll ever.



HEY!
No... no... bad!




LadyPact -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 5:04:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

I think this man may well be my favourite troll ever.

I mean, fuck it, Jesus is on the messageboard.

Can we keep him? Canwecanwecanwe? Please?

You know what we've told you, young lady.  You're not getting any more pets unless you take care of them and train them properly.  This one makes messes everywhere.  Unless you're willing to clean up after it, the answer is NO!




BenevolentM -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 5:29:16 PM)

In reply to LadyPact post 121.

I recall watching a documentary program on that infamous French penal colony in South America, Devil's Island in French Guiana. They observed that psychotic inmates coped better in solitary confinement. If solitary confinement creates psychosis, then it would have been redundant for them to speak of psychotic inmates. They would simply be inmates.

What you are suggesting is that religious experience implies psychosis. That is an atheistic point of view. It's certainly dismissive. It seems clear to me that many here have been through therapy. The world is being viewed through that lens without the sophistication you would expect from actual psychotherapists. There is a code of ethics.

I pointed out in another thread how science inspires blind faith. I've gone over this stuff already.




FukinTroll -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 5:32:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

psychosis



Nuff said.




LadyPact -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 5:37:08 PM)

It would be My opinion, BM, that you should probably have a better idea of the person you are addressing when you wish to make statements about  that person's views on faith.  Frankly, you are quite incorrect.

Extended periods of solitary confinement has been raised as a potential of cruel and unusual punishment due to the effect that it can have on the mental stability of those serving such sentences.  Not everyone agrees that it's such a wonderful thing.

I would think that someone who has whined repeatedly about their suffering regarding being alone might see that.




BurntKitty -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 5:42:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: hlen5


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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance


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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

It is God who exalts me. ...



You should probably ask god to step away from the computer for a while then, he's making you look bad.

[sm=rofl.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=rofl.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=rofl.gif]


Ditto.




BenevolentM -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 5:48:00 PM)

What I find interesting about the BDSM community is they seem to regard the status of Dom as a privilege and not a state of being; consequently, males are not born Dom. They are born submissive and become dominant because they are successful at it.

I was born a Dominant male. Whatever suffering I have known in this life was made Holy by the Almighty God. He didn't have to, but He did. I am a Holy Man. Lump it.




defiantbadgirl -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 6:12:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

I am a witch and as such I am familiar with the Old Ways.


So you're a witch with a strong belief in God and Jesus. Some people might find that a contradiction. I do not. I think of Jesus as a powerful sorceror who used positive magik to heal people. I think his miracles proved that magik can be used for good. That not all majik is evil.

What I am concerned about is your strong belief that you're better than everyone else.




RapierFugue -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 6:16:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

So you're a witch with a strong belief in God and Jesus. Some people might find that a contradiction. I do not. I think of Jesus as a powerful sorceror who used positive magik to heal people. I think his miracles proved that magik can be used for good. That not all majik is evil.


It's like The Enlightenment never happened.




Termyn8or -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 6:42:54 PM)

Seem to regard eh ? I try not to be too critical, but I must callem as I seeum.

It seems that you have static on both the transmitting and recieving end of the stick here. It is a priveledge to be in a relatioship with anyone, and when it is not you go or send them away. I wonder what you do for a living, one possibility is televangelist, but I am not putting my foot into that one.

You came into this forum with a demeanor that is like that of one applying for a job. What job I don't know. But blowing one's own horn in that fashion is is indicative of salesmanship. That can only mean a few things.

At the root of all those things is a need for acceptance, but you don't seem to enbrace the egalitarian nature of this forum. What everyone does when they get home is different. You are seeking a more universal acceptance, and on a higher level than others. You have not used the word "mutual" to my knowledge, you have not expressed that love is, and anything that is not mutual is not love, and in that case all you can hope for is infatuation. A fine way to go if you can pull it off.

However what you don't realize, even if you are somehow exhalted and held in the highest of esteem by a mate, it wears off. If you are so great, they learn. Perhaps they do not become equal, but don't bet against it. We are all born with a certain mental capacity and I think that CMers are a bit above the norm. However this varies by specie, the particular specie might be salesmanship, at which which you surely do not excel. At least in this paradigm. What is it that makes you holy ?

And what is it that makes you think that others aren't ? You own words express that, because if you thought that everyone was holy, you would not bother to mention it. The only logical conclusion is then that your opinion is that you are indeed "holier than thou". To what other conclusion can a sane, logical and intelligent person come ? You tell me. What words could you possibly come up with that do not express the holier than thou attitude given all that's been said ? You have painted yourself into a corner in a way.

Now comes the question of what it is that makes you so special, so superior ? You're not too bad at the English language, but I see nothing exceptional. How about some of your accomplishments ? Without hubris, I can claim to be one of the best at what I do, and that is supported by others, employer and ex employers. I can literally get away with almost anything. I have not been fired since about 1986, but have resigned many times. I am always welcome back, and I have the references to prove it.

I have my own house, which my Father and I paid for, It was not obtained by some flimflam mortgage bullshit and I am as proud of that as I am my status in my field. I am also proud of things I have obtained without paying for them. I am also proud of the fact that all my friends, if they bring new people to me, they tell them not to get on my bad side. Is this a threat because I have the capacity to look my own family members in the eye and blow their head off ? Not completely, a big part of that is that they know that I am good person to know, to have on your side. I am proud of that.

I am secure in my Manhood, my personhood and my will. I am content with my morality which I do consider superior to that of most, and I am proud of that. as well as the fact that I can usually make my point and convince others that I am right, or at least not wrong.

So big boy, what do you have going for yourself ? I don't want to hear if Daddy left you alot of money, or you are one of the best scumbag politicians. I want something real. What do you have going for youreself ? What do you offer a potentuial mate other than an inferior position which will eventually make them hate you ? You probably already know it will happen unless you are a virgin. (45% chance IMO)

You write somewhat like Robert Pinkerton. I have corresponded with him and he does have an aire of superiority. The difference is that he is subtle about it. Here's a guy who is impotent and yet has attracted two mates of very high quality, and the first one didn't leave him, she died. His Women put up with some shit to be with him. Anytime they left the house they were required to wear a chastity belt, and I don't mean some hundred buck piece of shit. I mean the real McCoy. But he also insisted that they carry a gun, and made sure that they were trained in it's usage.

I have some writings of his, but they are no longer searchable on the net because the forum is now gone. His superiority was demonstrated by the importance he gave to the safety of his Woman. He also had alot of views with which I agree, like individualism and the like.

What have you ? Tell us a little about yourself. What made you this way ? In what exact ways are you holier or better than the average ? Rather than poking fun. this is the question that needs to be answered. Perhaps in doing so you will grow, and maybe explain yourself a bit, so that your position does not seem so adversarial to the "common" people.

You have the floor.

T^T




LonDom61 -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 6:42:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

What I find interesting about the BDSM community is they seem to regard the status of Dom as a privilege and not a state of being; consequently, males are not born Dom. They are born submissive and become dominant because they are successful at it.

I was born a Dominant male. Whatever suffering I have known in this life was made Holy by the Almighty God. He didn't have to, but He did. I am a Holy Man. Lump it.


Of course you were.

Have you ever seen a baby, BM?  What they "say" is "I"M HUNGRY, BRING ME FOOD...NOW!", "I'M UNCOMFORTABLE.  FIX IT.", "CUDDLE ME, PAY ATTENTION TO ME!"  Their comfort and wishes are preeminent.  The people around them are there to see to their needs.  etc.

Sounds pretty dommy to me. 

And, sorry, but I've lost track.  Are you a saint or a Messiah/Prophet?

The birth of saints isn't foretold in prophecy.  And what was this prophecy anyway?  Is it in scripture?  Can we read it somewhere?

You talk about what an amazing, wonderful fella you are.  But saints were often real pricks.  Case in point: Thomas (I think).  The guy who burned people at the stake for attempting to translate the BuyBull into English.  He's a saint now.

Others were hermits.  Okay, that one may fit you.

Theresa thought pain brought you closer to God.  So her "hospitals" treated the terminally ill & suffering...but not by relieving their pain.

So you could be a saint and yet NOT be The All-Shiny Benevolent One.








stellauk -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 8:16:01 PM)

You know you can generally divide the religious into two categories, those that live their religion and live in harmony with the world and other people and those that can't.

You can take Jesus as the central figure of religious thinking, as he advocated individuality and morality in spiritual and religious thinking.

It changed thinking to establish a pattern which can be seen elsewhere and had a special importance for the evolution of Mankind.

You might actually find that delusions of divinity has nothing to do with Christ, but is more characteristic of Lucifer.

Edited: I changed my idea of what to post.




ModTwentyOne -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 8:27:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

Even though I did the art work for Mod21 and examined the photography in high def . . . I can neither confirm or deny anything about what it is composed of or its' origins.  I am bound by a CDA (confidential disclosure agreement).  For example, I couldn’t say whether or not the glass was empty at the start of the photo session and when the session was over, after all that sexy stripping and posing . . . it was full of juice from unknown origins. 


Thank you Kalon Eric.  You are a man of impeccable character.

Mod21





Kana -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 9:09:49 PM)

I just wanna know if preserving myself involves mason jars, cuz there's a sale at the local market on em if so...




BenevolentM -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 10:05:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stellauk

You might actually find that delusions of divinity has nothing to do with Christ, but is more characteristic of Lucifer.


Having met Christ I know that He is Divine.




FukinTroll -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 10:40:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

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ORIGINAL: stellauk

You might actually find that delusions of divinity has nothing to do with Christ, but is more characteristic of Lucifer.


Having met Christ I know that He is Divine.


You say that like it is going to have some significance, other than us knowing you're a nut job, he is cannibalized by millions every Sunday.

So... where lies the greater impact?

Hey, guess who I met?
or
Hey, guess who I ate with Fava beans and a nice Chianti?




BenevolentM -> RE: A Guide for Dominant Men: How to Preserve Yourself (3/2/2011 11:02:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LonDom61

Have you ever seen a baby, BM?  What they "say" is "I"M HUNGRY, BRING ME FOOD...NOW!", "I'M UNCOMFORTABLE.  FIX IT.", "CUDDLE ME, PAY ATTENTION TO ME!"  Their comfort and wishes are preeminent.  The people around them are there to see to their needs.  etc.

Sounds pretty dommy to me.


Ok, am I to take what you wrote seriously?




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