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Lucylastic -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/3/2011 3:26:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


So, the Ministry of truth is now officially open for business in Canada.



What could possibly go wrong?


You didnt come up with that all on your lonesome
Do you have stock in fox ? Did you loose much?
I thought americans were for truth and justice
I know your idea of truth is fucked up but really dont we have enough ignorance and deception in what is supposed to be news?
And you want them to be able to pollute more minds just for the almighty dollar?
You seem to be the poster child for fair and balanced bullshit
The CRTC dont often do much right, they are an irritation, but its worth it just to see your immature response
gave me a giggle for a couple of days anyway.
BTW it is not a denial of free speech, this is a corporation not an individual.





mnottertail -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/3/2011 3:29:30 PM)

corporation and individual .... same same here in the US, didn't you catch the thread?

thats why the republicans to the neo-cons here in the US are all about individual freedoms, the corporate individuals freedoms. 



jlf1961 -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/3/2011 3:32:22 PM)

Lucy, my therapist once asked me what I would do if I had the same amount of money that Bill Gates has.

My answer was simple, I would buy FOX news, hold a meeting with all news personnel and commentators and announce with a grin, "I am your worst nightmare, a Democrat and your new boss!"



Lucylastic -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/3/2011 4:04:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

corporation and individual .... same same here in the US, didn't you catch the thread?

thats why the republicans to the neo-cons here in the US are all about individual freedoms, the corporate individuals freedoms. 

Then my bad:)
However Im sure they have appealed to the canada human rights commission as is their "right" :)
you mean they havent???
I wonder why?
Under the Charter, people physically present in Canada have numerous civil and political rights. Most of the rights can be exercised by any legal person, (the Charter does not define the corporation as a "legal person"),
I gotta find up to date info but honestly I have to give a damn.
sorry I dont:)[:D]



tweakabelle -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/3/2011 4:54:04 PM)

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lie2

noun
an intentionally false statement:
they hint rather than tell outright lies
the whole thing is a pack of lies
used with reference to a situation involving deception or founded on a mistaken impression:
all their married life she had been living a lie


http://oxforddictionaries.com/view/entry/m_en_gb0469360?rskey=BV5CZs&result=5#m_en_gb0469360


inSanity I am still waiting for a reason why anyone might seek or need the 'right' to lie.

As is clear from the dictionary, lying involves deception, falsehood and mistaken impressions.

Is it your position that the media should actively promote deception? Or falsehoods? Or mistaken impressions?

For the media to deliberately lie is to negate is very own raison d'etre, it is to deliberately fail in its fundamental task of educating and informing the public, it is to cease to be the media and become a la Fox, the propaganda unit of billionaires and large corporations.

How anyone can claim to be committed to freedom, human rights and democracy and defend this 'right' is simply beyond me. This is the first step on the fast track to tyranny.



Arpig -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/3/2011 9:12:03 PM)

Jesus!! you are an idiot sometimes...for the LAST TIME, there is nobody in government dictating what is or isn't considered true...they just can't lie if they know its a lie!!! They need to have some sort of proof!!!



Arpig -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/3/2011 9:14:36 PM)

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corporation and individual .... same same here in the US, didn't you catch the thread?
Yes I did, but thankfully things haven't gotten that out of whack up North



Sanity -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/4/2011 6:00:48 AM)


No Bob, its you leftist freaks who are arguing against free speech who are mentally deficient. Please dont call yourselves liberals anymore, as you argue against liberty.

What are the penalties for these speech crimes, anyway. Not just the law that says one must not say things that cant be proven, as you say. But the other speech crime laws you mentioned earlier, your "hate" speech crimes.

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Jesus!! you are an idiot sometimes...for the LAST TIME, there is nobody in government dictating what is or isn't considered true...they just can't lie if they know its a lie!!! They need to have some sort of proof!!!



mnottertail -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/4/2011 6:34:02 AM)

I believe he calls himself a socialist.  socialist and liberal are not prima facie interchangeable terms.



Louve00 -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/4/2011 6:38:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Jesus!! you are an idiot sometimes...for the LAST TIME, there is nobody in government dictating what is or isn't considered true...they just can't lie if they know its a lie!!! They need to have some sort of proof!!!


At one time, Arpig, US news was checked, double-checked and found to be true before airing it as news.  It must have been before Sanity's time because he is stuck on the fact that lies ARE news and can be used as gospel.  And rejecting that kind of news somehow limits freedom of speech. [8|]



Sanity -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/4/2011 6:49:04 AM)


There were always newspapers that printed whatever the editor desired, the lowest most vile things imaginable, even back in the days they were signing the Constitution. This move to stifle free speech is new, and its leftists like you who cant counter conservative arguments with effective arguments of your own who blindly push it.

MSNBC counters FOX, in fact CBS and the New York Times, NPR as well as AOL / Time, Newsweek, and many more spread the leftist gospel but thats not good enough.

Leftists have to squelch free CONSERVATIVE speech if their failed ideology / religion (government is god) is to have any chance of lasting another election season, and they know that.

FOX is the devil...

Pffft, whatever.












Louve00 -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/4/2011 7:02:04 AM)

Riiiight Sanity.  Its the whole left world against just a few of you righties.  Do you realize how paranoid that sounds?  Walter Cronkite (again) someone before your time obviously, was prided for reporting TRUE news.  Not rumor....not innuendo...not "you fill in the blanks when you dont have the whole story".  Just news.  I'm sorry if you find that hard to swallow [&:]



Sanity -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/4/2011 7:11:43 AM)


Was there someone from the Canadian bureaucracy standing watch over his shoulder? Were there teams of leftist freaks pouring over his every word and sentence, trying to identify any statement that could be prosecuted for a speech crime violation?

CBS would probably have just ran reruns of Leave It To Beaver had that been the case, and stopped trying to broadcast the news altogether.

Speech crime laws are purely contemptible, let anyone say what they have a mind to say, period.

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ORIGINAL: Louve00

Riiiight Sanity.  Its the whole left world against just a few of you righties.  Do you realize how paranoid that sounds?  Walter Cronkite (again) someone before your time obviously, was prided for reporting TRUE news.  Not rumor....not innuendo...not "you fill in the blanks when you dont have the whole story".  Just news.  I'm sorry if you find that hard to swallow [&:]



cuckoldmepls -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/4/2011 7:13:55 AM)

We can prove our case easily. Juan Williams the most liberal commentator on tv was fired by NPR simply for speaking his mind. That should tell you right there that the liberal media is trying to control how you think, which promotes their agenda.

There are a lot of people in this forum that believe that moderates and conservatives are in the minority. That's not true at all. In fact, there was a poll out where only 21% of the respondents considered themselves to be liberals.

So my question is, if 79% are moderates and conservatives why do we only have one network who is willing to present the other viewpoint.

Latest two examples of how the pc lamestream media tries to control your mind is when they tried to connect the Az. shooter to the tea party movement. Then just yesterday NBC was trying to convince us that foreign college graduates should be allowed to stay here, when we all know that there are thousands upon thousands of our graduates who can't find jobs when they graduate.



mnottertail -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/4/2011 7:16:06 AM)

But when I say things about you as is my free speech right according to you, you yell unfounded accusation and report me to the administration here, looking to have me muzzled, so can we come to some sort of compromise where you talk out of both sides your mouth at the same time?



Louve00 -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/4/2011 7:23:46 AM)

[sm=agree.gif]  (and just further proves my point about some on the right contorting things to prove their point...and try to hush someone elses POV).

News is news.  Its either true or false.  Its not made up to make your own point.  Some people are so bulldozed they dont and probably won't ever see it. 



Sanity -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/4/2011 7:25:53 AM)


Another key point is that Cronkites opinion turned against the Vietnam war, some say that was what lost the war for Democracy there.

Could well have been speech crimes involved (by Canadian standards) in that.

Cronkite spewed plenty of opinion, regardless.



mnottertail -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/4/2011 7:35:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls
We can prove our case easily. Juan Williams the most liberal commentator on tv was fired by NPR simply for speaking his mind. That should tell you right there that the liberal media is trying to control how you think, which promotes their agenda.


Do you even fucking bother to read what you write?

Waltz me thru that self opposing viewpoint of yours.



Louve00 -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/4/2011 7:36:12 AM)

Well then, if some say it lost the war for the Democrats then CBS wasn't all that biased towards the left as you mentioned earlier, was it?  Cronkite may have aired his opinions, but never did he claim it as the news.  Do you know the difference between news and opinion, Sanity?



Lucylastic -> RE: Fox News Will Not Be Moving Into Canada After All (3/4/2011 7:37:50 AM)

There will be no speech crimes as fox is no longer in the running for the ability to broadcast.
end of story
but carry on having your widdle hissy fit
you are much more fun when you  froth and have no clue



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