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RE: funeral protestors protected by first amendment - 3/4/2011 5:34:20 PM   
Politesub53


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Agreed RML but like us, you do have neo nazis spouting ignorant B/s. The B/s itself is an opinion, stating what should happen to other races, is incitement, at least in my opinion.

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RE: funeral protestors protected by first amendment - 3/4/2011 5:45:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Agreed RML but like us, you do have neo nazis spouting ignorant B/s. The B/s itself is an opinion, stating what should happen to other races, is incitement, at least in my opinion.


Maybe so, but I don't see the need for stifling their right to express themselves, as obnoxious as they are.

I don't know if you ever remember seeing this.  Skokie is a Chicago suburb with a large Jewish population.  So it was particularly offensive for the neo-nazis to show up there.

But you know what?  As I've said before, you cannot decide which groups have free speech and which should not or you completely lose the entire concept of free speech.

When the Nazis Came to Skokie






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RE: funeral protestors protected by first amendment - 3/4/2011 6:30:38 PM   
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A funeral is a private ceremony, unless it is a "state burial" within whatever context.


Constitutional considerations do not come into play otherwise.


What's ludicrous is that the court did not base their adjudication on whether or not the ceremony itself was private or public, but rather upon the persistence of the perpetrators.

The pertinent quote here:

But Roberts said the frequency of the protests — and the church's practice of demonstrating against Catholics, Jews and many other groups — is an indication that Phelps and his flock were not mounting a personal attack against Snyder but expressing deeply held views on public topics.


So now then, all one has to do is be an as*}%le consistently in public and change one or two details of the sign as suits the occasion and, voila, the supreme court has given credence to a persistent gathering of cretins as now having political standing, the privacy considerations held prior by decades of prior courts apparently not even in this court's consciousness.


It has ever been thus, that we retroactively recognize the effort of the a heroic individual too many years after the fact.


Justice Alito is the lone hero on this occasion.


Please send prior notice cards to the  "church" in question here when justices Roberts, Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan's funerals come to pass, so that their families can appreciate the public intrusion upon their personal grief as allowed by the decision thus rendered.


In case this might have escaped notice ...


Were we to take this decision to heart on the ludicrous grounds promulgated, this would indicate that there is nothing preventing anyone from showing up in a DJ truck at 3:30 AM 2-3 times a week and blasting whatever you like directed at the target house, especially at the leaders of the so-called "church" in question here.

I wish that I lived closer to these idiots, because I could gather all that up in short order.


While we're at it, we could do likewise with the Supreme Court justices' residences, other than Alito, to further the cause they apparently hold so dear.


Just make sure that it's anti-Catholic OR anti-Jew OR anti-Protestant, so as to suit the SC's stated requirements, then you are good to go.

You don't even need to have the "nothing personal" qualifier on any of the signs, the Supreme Court has absolved you from any responsibility beyond mere "frequency", or to put it in real terms, persistence, which actually comes naturally to people who hate themselves and the world alike.


It's a contra-evolutionary Supreme Court we have here folks, just to go along with all the other proceedings elsewhere.






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