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Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 3:32:40 AM   
DCWoody


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Status: offline 		The constant modification of the UK constitution grinds on today; within the next few hours the results of the Welsh referendum are going to be announced....with everyone but everyone predicting a decisive Yes (albeit without a huge turn out for the little publicised issue of constitutional technicality).

This means the Welsh Assembly will be able to pass Welsh laws without having them double checked and okayed (or turned down) by the national Parliament, which will result in the first independant Welsh laws in 475 years (de jure, de facto it's arguably more like 700).
Perhaps the most current notable distinct Welsh law currently under consideration is about presumtion of organ donation upon death, an opt out system rather than the opt in used currently.





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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 3:58:52 AM   
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This means the Welsh Assembly will be able to pass Welsh laws without having them double checked and okayed (or turned down) by the national Parliament, which will result in the first independant Welsh laws in 475 years (de jure, de facto it's arguably more like 700).


Or, better yet, tow the shit-hole into the Atlantic and sink it.

(I'm currently working there, and detest the place ... can't wait to get back to civilisation).

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Perhaps the most current notable distinct Welsh law currently under consideration is about presumtion of organ donation upon death, an opt out system rather than the opt in used currently.


Mmmmm yeah ... that way, they can start with a really dumb law, and work downwards from there.

What will be fun is seeing how long it takes them to screw the pooch, big-time. I'm hoping the UK parliament will just let them crash and burn - given the degree of corruption in welsh politics it shouldn't take long.

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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 4:39:58 AM   
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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 4:43:38 AM   
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Someone doesn't like the rain. They have a few weeks in late july/early august where it don't rain so much, and it's actually quite nice.


Oh it's not the country I detest, it's the people. Backward, whiny types who think the country should subsidise their fuck-ups.

If the UK stopped pumping money into the place it'd crumble in months. And the political corruption there is unspeakable ... I know because I have to deal with it.

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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 9:06:11 AM   
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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 10:58:56 AM   
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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 11:00:40 AM   
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The Welsh are The British, the English are the foreigners.


<falls about laughing>

Bless :)

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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 11:02:39 AM   
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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 11:04:59 AM   
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They make some damn fine concord grape jelly though.


Oh they can be trained, with copious pummelling, to perform a wide variety of manual tasks, in much the same way chimps can be.

You wouldn't want to rely on their "thinking", but in terms of cheap slave labour they're occasionally mildly useful.

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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 11:05:08 AM   
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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 11:07:08 AM   
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He's actually right about that one: as far as anybody can tell, the celtic invaders drove the original population of mainland Britain into Wales, and for some reason chose not to follow them there.


Except there's no definition of "British", since we were, and indeed are, a mongrel nation. Anyone attempting to stop time at a specific point, in order to pin a definition, is an idiot.

Whenever I hear someone try to define "British", in terms of race, my mind instantly paints the word "moron" in 10 foot high letters.

c.f. the BNP, etc ...

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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 11:11:10 AM   
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Dead right about the mongrel nation thing, but supposedly the Welsh were here before anybody else arrived here: supposedly there's some historical evidence for that, and linguists who've done comparisons with cymric think it's a pretty antediluvian language as well, with no real connection to anything more recent arrivals speak.

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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 11:14:13 AM   
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Dead right about the mongrel nation thing, but supposedly the Welsh were here before anybody else arrived here


*BZZZT*

Wrong, but thank you for playing :)

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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 11:18:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		What I meant was that the Britons....who called themselves Britons, and who the Islands were named after.....were the Welsh.....who were Celts FYI, although things are unclear going back that far.....ie were the celts a separate invading force who drove out the beaker people or was it just assimilation of a more advanced culture.....is it north america changing to western liberalism through conquest or Egypt through internal cultural shift.

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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 11:21:00 AM   
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Probably wrong....but unless ya count Neanderthals as 'anybody else', maybe not.

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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 11:27:03 AM   
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"Wrong, but thank you for playing :)"

Probably wrong....but unless ya count Neanderthals as 'anybody else', maybe not.


Definitely wrong.

What never ceases to amuse me is how the various, peripheral, lesser "prior nations" never tire of trying to re-write history.

In any case, it's irrelevant to the matter at hand; the "independent" welsh legislature will be allowed to re-arrange the deck chairs on the Titanic ... right up to the point where they fuck up badly (which they will do, as they always do), after which control will be returned to those with a clue.

I do, however, pray that a generation of welsh people are forced to live with the results, in order that we'll finally hear an end to the endless whinging.

Fat fucking chance :)

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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 12:48:30 PM   
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Perhaps the most current notable distinct Welsh law currently under consideration is about presumtion of organ donation upon death, an opt out system rather than the opt in used currently.
Sounds like a good law to me

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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 12:52:20 PM   
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Perhaps the most current notable distinct Welsh law currently under consideration is about presumtion of organ donation upon death, an opt out system rather than the opt in used currently.
Sounds like a good law to me


Given the usual "quality" of your posts, your comment surprises me not even slightly.

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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 12:54:11 PM   
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LOL.   Brit Fight!!!! Somebody is gonna call somebody an arse!!!!

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RE: Independant Welsh Legislation is a go. - 3/4/2011 12:57:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		What on earth is wrong with such a law? If you for some incomprehensible reason do not wish to donate your organs upon death you take the minor step of opting out. Clearly if you choose not to opt out then it doesn't matter to you. What is wrong with doing things this way, it makes life simpler for all except the few crackpots who have something against organ donation.

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