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Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system (the... - 3/11/2011 2:19:42 PM   
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this is the low down on the american courts in living color.   surprisingly good clip



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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 2:25:59 PM   
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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 2:30:46 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7dTJHkq3Bw

this is the low down on the american courts in living color.   surprisingly good clip



Just out of curiosity legal eagle, can you share with us your legal credentials?

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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 2:41:38 PM   
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so you are incapable of comprehending what was posted and need an authority figure to "TELL YOU" what to think?

Dont feel bad though lot of that going around now days :)


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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 2:47:34 PM   
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cranklster theme song


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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 3:04:19 PM   
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Dammit, I thought this was going to be something good and I find that it's a cartoon. Oh wait, it's a fake cartton.

You know one thing was interesting though "Lawyers are no more greedy or corrupt than the general public". That I believe. You give anyone the power, they will abuse it. Actually a bunch of what was said is true, but it's still just an opnion piece, like an editorial. I was hoping for something "Real".

T^T

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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 3:09:10 PM   
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Real?

ok how about

Judges SLUSH Funds  part 1

Judges SLUSH Funds  part 2


Also note that the attorneys are trapped also.  You basically have the judgees controlling everything. 

THEY ultimately run this country!

They control the bar, the legislatures throw shit at the wall and the judges make it stick.



The reason they get away with it is because we were supposed to be set up with strictly JURY COURTS not judge courts.

JURY'S keep control of the law and the facts in the hands of the people!

It was never intended for the united states company to take over the people but as we can see it is and did happen.

What they said in that clip is very accurate.


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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 3:14:41 PM   
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Geez, are you trying to tell me they have money ?

Clue : I think most people know that.

Of course they have money, if I were them, so would I.

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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 3:24:05 PM   
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so you are incapable of comprehending what was posted and need an authority figure to "TELL YOU" what to think?

Dont feel bad though lot of that going around now days :)



No, just getting tired of you running all over this board proclaiming the legal knowledge that you sorely lack.

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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 3:25:16 PM   
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so you are incapable of comprehending what was posted and need an authority figure to "TELL YOU" what to think?

Dont feel bad though lot of that going around now days :)



No, just getting tired of you running all over this board proclaiming the legal knowledge that you sorely lack.

Why don't you stop replying to him?


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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 3:32:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster


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so you are incapable of comprehending what was posted and need an authority figure to "TELL YOU" what to think?

Dont feel bad though lot of that going around now days :)



No, just getting tired of you running all over this board proclaiming the legal knowledge that you sorely lack.

Why don't you stop replying to him?




Probably for the same reason you don't.

It's entertainment.






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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 3:42:21 PM   
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Dammit, I thought this was going to be something good and I find that it's a cartoon. Oh wait, it's a fake cartton.

You know one thing was interesting though "Lawyers are no more greedy or corrupt than the general public". That I believe. You give anyone the power, they will abuse it. Actually a bunch of what was said is true, but it's still just an opnion piece, like an editorial. I was hoping for something "Real".

T^T

Just what is a 'real' cartoon ? Just what is a fake cartoon ? Felix the Cat, Mighty Mouse ? How is it that they say would or wouldn't be any more or less 'fake ?'

I heard nothing in this piece that sounds implausible. This is modern America after all and yes, lawyers are capitalists. Next question.

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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 4:26:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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so you are incapable of comprehending what was posted and need an authority figure to "TELL YOU" what to think?

Dont feel bad though lot of that going around now days :)



No, just getting tired of you running all over this board proclaiming the legal knowledge that you sorely lack.

Why don't you stop replying to him?




Probably for the same reason you don't.

It's entertainment.





You'll note that I didn't reply to anything he wrote. Personally I think his bullshit belongs in Random Stupidity. He pollutes the P&R forum.

IMO, this forum has become worse that the purple places Politics forum. For serious discussions on a well-moderated forum I go to another kink site. Merc & Beth are there; I am diametrically opposite him politicaslly, but at least he offers up cogent posts. Most posts here would never be missed, as they add nothing to the discussion. I have RO, PA, Sanity, and heretic on block. I simply don't wish to waste my time reading garbage. Brain is just a partisan troll. He's escalating again, and very soon I'd wager that he'll have nearly half the threads on the first page. He bumps his own threads down. I might occasionally disagree with Term, and his views on "race" disgust me. However, his posts always attempt to contribute something to the dialogue; something few others do, IMO.

Panda was absolutely right.

One can either continue the partisan jerkoff, or one can try to hold a civilized discussion, complete with verifiable citations (A Youtube vid is good only for checking what a person said).

I'll quote myself: " The only thing that might possibly change minds is reasoned argument. And that is our goal, is it not? To change peoples minds? Oh, I used to have a riotous time at the purple place going after Salted and Marky-Mark and TE Lawrence, but that accomplishes exactly nothing. Sure, it might feel good for about the amount of time it takes to orgasm, but if one hasn't made a dent in the cognitive dissonance edifice, then it's pointless."

It's pointless trying to use reason with those who have severe DSM-V dosirders.




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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 6:54:36 PM   
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Here I thought we were going to be entertained by the great Richard Pryor and his fabulously funny 1975 routine on "Just-Us", instead I get a shitty hack cartoon.  What a fucking disappointment.


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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 7:25:17 PM   
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so you are incapable of comprehending what was posted and need an authority figure to "TELL YOU" what to think?

Dont feel bad though lot of that going around now days :)



No, just getting tired of you running all over this board proclaiming the legal knowledge that you sorely lack.





which legal knowledge is that?   (in your opinion)


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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 7:26:40 PM   
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FR

Here I thought we were going to be entertained by the great Richard Pryor and his fabulously funny 1975 routine on "Just-Us", instead I get a shitty hack cartoon.  What a fucking disappointment.


Comically,
Some Knucklehead in NJ




Awwww poor baby!  I am so sorry you were not entertained!


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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 7:32:45 PM   
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so you are incapable of comprehending what was posted and need an authority figure to "TELL YOU" what to think?

Dont feel bad though lot of that going around now days :)



No, just getting tired of you running all over this board proclaiming the legal knowledge that you sorely lack.

Why don't you stop replying to him?



yeh reply to me by "proxy" like jlf and crankster here does so you can say you dont reply to me!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 7:54:46 PM   
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You'll note that I didn't reply to anything he wrote.

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Theme from "Stargate RO: Bizarro Universe"


Personally I think his bullshit belongs in Random Stupidity. He pollutes the P&R forum.

IMO, this forum has become worse that the purple places Politics forum.
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and that post helps it how?  I think you should be moved to random stoopidity for flame baiting.
 

Merc & Beth are there; I am diametrically opposite him politicaslly, but at least he offers up cogent posts. Most posts here would never be missed, as they add nothing to the discussion. I have RO, PA, Sanity, and heretic on block.

Have you considered blocking yourself?  It would solve many of your problems.


I simply don't wish to waste my time reading garbage.

We realize that you prefer to type it instead.

Brain is just a partisan troll. He's escalating again, and very soon I'd wager that he'll have nearly half the threads on the first page. He bumps his own threads down. I might occasionally disagree with Term, and his views on "race" disgust me. However, his posts always attempt to contribute something to the dialogue; something few others do, IMO.

Panda was absolutely right.

One can either continue the partisan jerkoff, or one can try to hold a civilized discussion, complete with verifiable citations (A Youtube vid is good only for checking what a person said).

well verify to your hearts content or you expect everyone to d o that for you as well

Judges SLUSH Funds  part 1

Judges SLUSH Funds  part 2


I'll quote myself: " The only thing that might possibly change minds is reasoned argument. And that is our goal, is it not?

Proving you are full of shit.  You have to first know and understand the topic LOL.


To change peoples minds? Oh, I used to have a riotous time at the purple place (so you admit to being part of the problem then) going after Salted and Marky-Mark and TE Lawrence, but that accomplishes exactly nothing. Sure, it might feel good for about the amount of time it takes to orgasm, but if one hasn't made a dent in the cognitive dissonance edifice, then it's pointless."

It's pointless trying to use reason with those who have severe DSM-V dosirders.

Wow such big words, care to detail how they apply to anyone but you?




We are so glad you had the opportunity to get all that off your chest.

I hope you feel better now.

Your problem is obvious Here is something sooothing for you.


Now if its all the same to you and your cranked out friends could the rest of us get back to discussing judicial corruption?









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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 8:06:22 PM   
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term, they touched on the greater majority of the high points as to why the judicial system is a complete failure.

It was fashioned after the king's bench and sovereign government notion UNDER the king, only now its under the emotionally retarded public that cannot see the 2 party system is a complete failure as well.

We have a bunch of retards that believe bullets can do u turns, buildings can fall into themselves, and its ok to shoot and burn women and children if they do not agree with you VOTING for shits sake.  and lucky to be capable of spelling their own name in charge of policing and seeing through all the bullshit to protect ourselves from tyranny of corporate conglomerates and corrut gubmint? 

Hell walk into mikey d's and ask any one what their opinion is of the fractional banking, hypothecation and monetization of everything including them.....   and watch the deer in the headlights look come over their faces.

The above whiners and sneer'ers dont know shit about the topic OR want to silence others or sweep the real problems under the carpet to snuff the very thing they whine about.

Skunks always smell their own ass first.

If there was EVER a reason to have fear there you have it.





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RE: Welcome to the American "JUST-US" system ... - 3/11/2011 9:07:25 PM   
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"We have a bunch of retards that believe bullets can do u turns, buildings can fall into themselves, and its ok to shoot and burn women and children if they do not agree with you VOTING for shits sake.  and lucky to be capable of spelling their own name in charge of policing and seeing through all the bullshit to protect ourselves from tyranny of corporate conglomerates and corrut gubmint? 

Hell walk into mikey d's and ask any one what their opinion is of the fractional banking, hypothecation and monetization of everything including them.....   and watch the deer in the headlights look come over their faces. "

Then what's the point ? You expect a quantum leap into a dimension even I don't understand. Start with baby steps. Why can't the state charge me with not having insurance without my signing their license ? And at least a dozen people have beaten speeding tickets, and kept everything. How ? The state requires towns, municipalities whatever to adhere to guidlines when setting a speed limit. If you get caught doing 34 in a 25 here, and they haven't done a "proper" traffric survey that shows by state standards, that a lower limit is appropriate, it is deemed a speed trap under state law. At least here. But that is using their own rules against them. You have the ability to do that, and a journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. Not in Onio ? Make the charge anyway that it is a speed trap and see which way the wind blows. If Ohio's law is deemed Constitutional, then what follows ? Subsequent battles, they might produce case law, or in the case of Ohio, legislative action. This is using your opponent's force against him.

Forget all these lofty ideals of taking over, it's been tried. It ain't gonna happen. You carve out your existence and gain peace by fucking with them so bad that they don't even want to see you, let alone put you in their jail. Feed you and clothe you while you study and formulate your appeal, or other nuisance, any nuisance possible. Do nothing but cost them energy, in whatever form, be it money or manpower, whatever.

Sometimes you goad them into actions that are actionable, as long as they're not too smart. You can't count on that, but it does happen. You can find civil issues that you can stick so far up their craw they'll never get it out. But you can't do it with your own rules. You think if you know Robert's Rules Of Order you're a lawyer ? Certainly not.

I'm here to tell you that you don't know as much as you think. Understand that I am not saying you are stupid or anything of the sort. But what you write indicates to me that you have had very little experience with the statutory courts. Let me put it bluntly. When you walk in there you are not allowed to have a gun. They all have guns and plenty of little rooms for you. And it's not just that.

You can't go to their arena and play your own game, it is their game. It's like going to a baseball stadium and playing football. If it were your stadium they would have the problem, but since it is their stadium what do you think the situation is ? They'll call you crazy - liteerally, and send you for a MANDATORY psyche eval. I have seen it happen. It doesn't matter, the guy it happened to did eventually prevail, and we can prtobably agree that the court really wanted him declared non compos mentis so that he could not proceed pro se. Regardless, after hundreds of thousands of dollars and over a year of his life, he eventually dropped the pro se stance and did what he had to do to get out because he wasn't doing a damn thing in the joint. In a way he was lucky, because when he finally did find the right lawyer, the case records up to that point supported his appeal and subsequent exoneration for something that was clearly against statutory law. (with irrefutable evidence)

I applaud him for fighting them, but it wasn't really worth it, even though he won. We are talking about two hundred fucking grand and over a year in prison. He thought of suing them, I said - why ? Win a tort case after how many more hours and whatever, and get a check for the money he must sign without opening a bank account ? You think he can just take that check and walk out with a half million cash ? Not only won't it happen, it can't happen.

I just don't know what to say to get it to sink in. The game is rigged. I don't even know what your goal might be. The government is not going to just step down. They will only back down in certain circumstances. You don't seem to have those circumstances. This happens rarely because they made the rules and they make the decisions. They only decide against themselves for window dressing. To be able to claim that they are fair.

Accept the small victories, until people wake up on their own. You can't give people an idea, they come to on their own, and that's the fact. And as fucked up as it sounds, these circumstances are a matter of nature, like it or not. By trying to upset the whole thing you are actually fighting nature. I can be with you but I will not go with you on a suicide mission.

T^T

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