DarkSteven
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250 Steven, what we've been sorely lacking in the w.h. for a long time now is a good Manager. Much as I don't care for his abrasive personality I'd have to admit that Donald Trump would fit that bill and more. I disagree. IMO, a President gathers his advisers round and drives them toward a conclusion. I can't see Trump working with others. I think he could be a talking head but no more because he's not used to having to do what others want. quote:
ORIGINAL: TheHeretic You left out Pawlenty and Daniels, Steve, though I despair of a man who thinks we need a truce on social issues in a Republican primary. I think Huntsman can overcome having served in the Obama administration by an appeal to patriotism, and some cheap shots at his former boss ("he tries to get good people, and then doesn't listen to them"), and turn it into the biggest foreign policy asset on the bench. The Mormon thing? I think that will carry more weight in the minds of Christian hating bigots, than it will for most Christians. I don't think Christie will run, but I'd certainly support him over "4 more years" if he did turn out to be a big fat liar on that. Gingrich... Fucking Gingrich. He's smart and driven, with a good resume, but he has never struck me as a very nice sort of person. Palin and Bachmann. A decent debate on a televised stage should take care of these, nicely. ??? When Bush I was at 90% approval in the polls at this stage 20 years ago, who had heard of Ross Perot? In this day of social media, couldn't we see dark horses, charging from YouTube and Facebook, only their hoofbeats would be as thumbs posting Twitter updates? The less popular Obama is, the crazier the Republican will be. I've been saying for quite a while that yes, if Obama screws up badly enough, Palin could beat him. Rich, I mostly agree with what you've written. Pawlenty always seems to be just below the others in terms of visibility. Daneils I can't take seriously because he just can't get into the media, similar to Santorum and Cain. Gingrich has a long resume, but not all of it is good. In this day and age, having a short resume means less to attack, and Newt certainly is vulnerable there. You make a good point regarding social media. Obama pioneered using it, and Palin has used it to keep herself visible. It certainly allows for unknowns becoming contenders in record time, and I expect that you;re right about dark horses becoming more prevalent as a result. quote:
ORIGINAL: Fellow I am interested who would be from Democrat side. Will Obama run for the second term and who will be the challengers? I see no signs that he's not planning to run again. Note that no Dems have postured themselves to look like contenders. If Obama decided to not stand for reelection, I'd assume that the news would leak out, and that lots of Dems would be trying to look Presidential. If Obama does run, I can't see any Dems challenging him. That's why I was focusing on the GOP side, because the Dem side is a foregone conclusion. quote:
ORIGINAL: Moonhead How about the "independent" Lieberman? Forget it. Unless both major parties really screw up, I can't see an independent getting much funding. And I get the impression that he hasn't made a lot of friends in Washington. quote:
ORIGINAL: truckinslave But the winner is likely to be chosen as a result of events yet to occur, as I indicated above. I think a big, successful terrorist attack means 0bama0 loses 57 states. I expect this summer to be full of sound and fury. Wisconsin was only the start of the state battles. Major budget fight in DC, with the final skirmish maybe this week. Lots and lots and lots of tea Parties, with much of the attention spent on establishment Rs who don't insist on budget proposals Dims find unacceptable (imo every R who fails to vote to defund 0bama0Care, the NEA, NPR, the list goes on, should count on a serious primary fight). There's too many knife fights coming up to pick winners.... I disagree on the terrorist attack. W took the worst terrorist attack in history and used it as the centerpiece of his Presidency. He invaded two countries in dubious wars, weakened civil liberties, handed out no-bid contracts to Cheney's ex-company, and created the DHS from other agencies' deadwood, and still looked strong and decisive doing it all. Obama's smart enough to know that he would need to respond forcefully to any terror attack. I agree on the Tea Party's efforts, and it's unfortunate that the soundness of an R will be based on how much the Dems dislike him or her. quote:
ORIGINAL: Moonhead What happened to Guiliani? I thought they were keen to trot that cretin out again as well. I get the feeling that he wants to run but that after his 2008 primary strategy of ignoring the first few primaries, nobody thinks he knows how to use campaign resources.
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