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TreasureKY -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 5:49:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

"bodgy"...I'm going to need a translation.I'm just not familiar with that particular word?



I'm not surprised.  [;)]

Bodgy




Sanity -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 6:21:24 AM)


From the Wall Street Journal  - Shhh - be vewwy vewwy quiet, Im hunting tewwowists

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New rules allow investigators to hold domestic-terror suspects longer than others without giving them a Miranda warning, significantly expanding exceptions to the instructions that have governed the handling of criminal suspects for more than four decades.


Courtroom sketch of bombing suspect Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab.



[image]http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/NA-BK798_MIRAND_G_20110323185050.jpg[/image]

The move is one of the Obama administration's most significant revisions to rules governing the investigation of terror suspects in the U.S. And it potentially opens a new political tussle over national security policy, as the administration marks another step back from pre-election criticism of unorthodox counterterror methods.

The Supreme Court's 1966 Miranda ruling obligates law-enforcement officials to advise suspects of their rights to remain silent and to have an attorney present for questioning. A 1984 decision amended that by allowing the questioning of suspects for a limited time before issuing the warning in cases where public safety was at issue.

That exception was seen as a limited device to be used only in cases of an imminent safety threat, but the new rules give interrogators more latitude and flexibility to define what counts as an appropriate circumstance to waive Miranda rights.




rulemylife -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 6:36:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Video -

Well known Constitutional scholar claims U.S. attack on any nation that has not attacked us is an impeachable offense

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH5pSUJ2dKU&feature=player_embedded#at=107

Only if a Republican is president at the time though, apparently.  [;)]



Are you fucking kidding me?

This after you supported the Bush Doctrine defining our supposed right to wage preemptive war.




Moonhead -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 6:40:15 AM)

Pre-emptive war in defiance of the UN, don't forget...




Sanity -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 7:03:34 AM)



Yes as a matter of fact I am kidding you, thats precisely what the little winky thing means rml.


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Video -

Well known Constitutional scholar claims U.S. attack on any nation that has not attacked us is an impeachable offense

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH5pSUJ2dKU&feature=player_embedded#at=107

Only if a Republican is president at the time though, apparently.  [;)]



Are you fucking kidding me?

This after you supported the Bush Doctrine defining our supposed right to wage preemptive war.





domiguy -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 7:04:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


He might not be, but Im not happy that I bought one of his CDs when I was much younger and didnt know any better.

That makes us even.

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

I am pretty sure that Neil Young would not be very happy knowing that you or wilbur listen to his music




lol. Neil Young is a very respected guitarist. He made the list of the greatest guitar players of all time which I don't think he probably deserved. Great on the acousitic, so so on the electric.

I can see Sanity listening to "Cortez the Killer" high as a kite, waiting for the last beer form the keg of Strohs.

Those were some good days. wilbur missed all of that shit.




Sanity -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 7:06:48 AM)



No, it was Lions brew

http://www.neonsign.com/eng_lightedsigns/images/lowenbraugiffinsign.jpg

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ORIGINAL: domiguy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


He might not be, but Im not happy that I bought one of his CDs when I was much younger and didnt know any better.

That makes us even.

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

I am pretty sure that Neil Young would not be very happy knowing that you or wilbur listen to his music




lol. Neil Young is a very respected guitarist. He made the list of the greatest guitar players of all time which I don't think he probably deserved. Great on the acousitic, so so on the electric.

I can see Sanity listening to "Cortez the Killer" high as a kite, waiting for the last beer form the keg of Strohs.

Those were some good days. wilbur missed all of that shit.




Moonhead -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 7:52:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: domiguy
lol. Neil Young is a very respected guitarist. He made the list of the greatest guitar players of all time which I don't think he probably deserved. Great on the acousitic, so so on the electric.

I can see Sanity listening to "Cortez the Killer" high as a kite, waiting for the last beer form the keg of Strohs.

Those were some good days. wilbur missed all of that shit.

In fact, he's rather better as an electric guitarist. The feedback thing sets him up as the missing link between Hendrix and the noisy post punk lot (Sonic Youth and the Jesus And Mary Chain are both his fault, for a start), and is a lot more entertaining than listening to his dull country stuff. On most of that he just sounds like Davey Graham with a lot less finesse and technique.




truckinslave -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 8:12:37 AM)

DAMMIT, man, why didn't you warn me that the link was to a very real possibility that Stedman did something right? I should have made sure my wife was home and had a defibrillator handy.
I seriously feel like I dodged a bullet.




FirmhandKY -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 8:45:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Pre-emptive war in defiance of the UN, don't forget...


Could you clarify this point a bit more, Moon?

Firm




Moonhead -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 8:52:33 AM)

The invasion of Iraq. The UN only approved that retroactively after you'd already invaded and started in on deposing Hussein.




mnottertail -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 8:53:49 AM)

Permanent Member status does have its privileges, my good man.




Moonhead -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 8:56:44 AM)

The really hilarious thing about that was the spectacle of his gimp capering around Europe to try to drum up support for deposing Hussein over obvious bollocks, and being told to fuck off and die by everybody except the Spanish...




mnottertail -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 9:00:12 AM)

What I found absolutely tragic was Colin Powell's "PROOF" speech at the UN, I watched a man I admired and had some massive respect for wear away into a .........I cannot even find the words........




FirmhandKY -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 9:03:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

The invasion of Iraq. The UN only approved that retroactively after you'd already invaded and started in on deposing Hussein.


I'm sorry, but your original post said that the invasion was in "defiance" of the UN.  On what basis do you make this claim?

Firm




Moonhead -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 9:04:15 AM)

Surely Powell lost most of the respect he had earned in his prior career the second he agreed to be the chimp's "spook by the door", though?
That was a pretty revolting moment though, true enough. You'd expect better from the only cabinet member to suggest shooting those jets down when they started going off course...




mnottertail -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 9:10:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

The invasion of Iraq. The UN only approved that retroactively after you'd already invaded and started in on deposing Hussein.


I'm sorry, but your original post said that the invasion was in "defiance" of the UN.  On what basis do you make this claim?

Firm




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_and_the_Iraq_War


Here it is in Wiki, and there are more scholarly citations aplenty.




Moonhead -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 9:11:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

The invasion of Iraq. The UN only approved that retroactively after you'd already invaded and started in on deposing Hussein.


I'm sorry, but your original post said that the invasion was in "defiance" of the UN.  On what basis do you make this claim?

Firm


On the basis that it wasn't authorised by the UN until it was already a fait accompli.

(In fact, Kofi Annan was still claiming that it was an illegal act, and that the chimp should have gone through the security council instead of staging a unilateral invasion with his poodle, after the invasion.)




mnottertail -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 9:29:53 AM)

Kofi was matriculated at Macalester College, right here in Minnesota. Don't know exactly where the Kenyan was matriculated, still seems some up in the air over that.  




Moonhead -> RE: Impeachment? (3/24/2011 9:33:03 AM)

Well, the Kenyan can't even produce a birth certificate: evidence of qualifications is too much to hope for, I imagine...
[;)]




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