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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/22/2011 1:58:55 PM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		I'm not sure the idea would work for Me.  It's not so much that it's open only to female led relationships.  It's more that I'd be co-op living with 32 other dynamics that I'm unfamiliar with until I would actually make the purchase for the home.  That's a bit different than knowing the folks before the decision was made, where maybe you got on well and wanted to do this with people that you already knew and had a clue about the way they run things.  I'd literally want to know how well My ideas of Dominance meshed with all of the other 32 Dommes that are a part of the project.  I wouldn't get along well with those who did consider themselves female supremacists, for an example, because we have different values.

Not that it isn't a nice idea for those who might want to be involved in such a thing.  I'd like to wish them the best of luck for success.


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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/22/2011 2:21:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress

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Eh, I would have issues with passing my opinion up the "chain of command", if you will. I'm a straight talker, and if I have something important to say to a group, I'll say it myself.

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If you're an intelligent male with good ideas and an ability to lead, I'd rather see you in charge over an average woman. And I'd rather see an intelligent female with good ideas and an ability to lead in charge over an average man.


Now see, I would like to point out that dominance or submission is not always a matter of intelligence either. For example, I would say that many of the better male subs on here (IE, Otter, hausboy, pyro, etc), from what I have seen, are of above average intelligence. Conversely, I think we can all think of some rather moronic female dominants as well. I think its more of a personality and personal experience thing, you know


Exactly where did I put a BDSM orientation on either the male or female? YOU jumped to conclusions and read what you wanted into it! And, btw, my submissive husband has a high IQ, top 2% - full scholarship to MIT. And for that matter, I also have an IQ in the top 2%. Nothing was mentioned about any orientation being smarter. Nor did it equate smart with ability to lead.  I made the point that there are intelligent males with good ideas and an ability to lead as well as intelligent females with good ideas and an ability to lead. The point was both sexes have those qualities and I'd rather see the best person have a job over a mediocre person and any form of "supremacy" precludes that outcome.


Ok, calm down. Its too cold here to be gettng worked up. Technically, I didnt make it a gender matter either. I just used the female dominant/male sub dynamic as an example. I'm sorry if you mistook my comment as an attack on you or anyone else.

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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/22/2011 2:56:46 PM   
BonesFromAsh


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My post, on looking back, wasn't all that clear. Let me try again...


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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

BFA, there's a serious difference between:

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ORIGINAL: leadership527
For couples with a male head of household.

and
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3) We believe that a male is better off with the loving guidance of a Female in his life.



The above quote was in response to leadership's comment...
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"We believe that women do best under the firm guidance of a male."
and a previous one from post #18...
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Out of curiosity, how would it go over if the site instead read, "We believe that most females are air-headed bimbos unable to take care of themselves without proper male guidance?"
The website never gave me the impression that they viewed men as "air-headed" or in need of "firm guidance". I read it as a community-in-the-making that would be centered around those in a female-led relationship by choice. I don't see it being of interest to those who don't ascribe to that relationship dynamic.

My reason for including the "head of household" part was based on the idea that those involved are doing so by choice...choosing to have a male HoH similar to those on the website choosing to have a female HoH. Again, my mistake for not being clearer.


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Doesn't matter whether or not the guidance is 'loving' (the bit you highlighted); it's about the way the site puports to speak for society as a whole, whereas Jeff is talking about individual households.


As I said above, I didn't read the site that way...speaking for society as a whole. While there is a real supremacy thread running through everything about the site and how they are choosing to run their community, I get the impression they're choosing to create this rather insular society to be...well, insulated from the reality of an equal society (or as equal as folks would like us to believe it is). Simply put...escapism. Many of the intentional communities I've visited or were interested in generally were trying to create a communal utopia. This example is no different.

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If 'a male' in the generic is better off with the guidance of a woman, loving or not, where does that leave all the flaming queers? Perpetually disadvantaged by their raging gaydom? I think not, and if that's something you'd actually support (which I don't think it is) then I'd think differently of you.



Well, this is where I had big issues with the website. They were only interested in female/male hetro couples. Reality is a wonderful mixed bag of tricks and I, for one, would truly miss the "flaming queers" I've known throughout my life if I had to exclude them simply because they weren't hetro.

I hope that made sense.

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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/22/2011 6:41:02 PM   
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I hope that made sense.

Yes it did - thank you for clarifying for me.

I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on whether the site was talking about specifics or generalities, though.


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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/22/2011 8:01:31 PM   
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Stupid idea in practice, but good for some hand-shandy fun of an evening. :-)

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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/23/2011 3:26:14 AM   
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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/23/2011 10:43:22 AM   
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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/24/2011 7:13:15 AM   
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Now I'm remembering why I quit with Collarme Forums.


Because you misread posts and take it personally when it isn't?

I got the same vibe that YSG did from your post. If it isn't what you intended to communicate, that could be explained without having a hissy fit.

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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/24/2011 7:15:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress
The point was both sexes have those qualities and I'd rather see the best person have a job over a mediocre person and any form of "supremacy" precludes that outcome.

I get what you meant, but in fariness to YSG it did kind of look like you were equating intelligence with dominance. I certainly raised an eyebrow at your post.



When will I learn to read the entire thread before posting?



To the OP....I can't see women getting along well enough to make this work. All the women I know and adore, my self included, are really a buncha bitches who want things their way.


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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/24/2011 8:21:17 AM   
servantforuse


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Status: offline 		As a submissive male, I see this as a very nice fantasy and not much more. I am sure that I saw this very website 3 to 4 years ago. If it isn't being built by now, I doubt that it ever will.

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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/24/2011 1:37:02 PM   
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Beyond that, the person who dreamed up the idea is asking other people to donate the land, in Florida. Expensive donation that.


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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/25/2011 8:56:05 PM   
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I think that any co-housing requires a lot of work and dedication - the kind of work and dedication that only comes when people TRULY DEEPLY believe in the philosophy behind the poly living situation that they have embraced. That is no small feat. (or feet possibley *wink). I think that most people are not able to or interested in working within such an intimate group dynamic.

But if you want to try it, I'll come by and watch, and maybe write a story about it. You'd have to edit it of course. :)

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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/25/2011 9:39:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub


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Now I'm remembering why I quit with Collarme Forums.


Because you misread posts and take it personally when it isn't?

I got the same vibe that YSG did from your post. If it isn't what you intended to communicate, that could be explained without having a hissy fit.

I seem to have alot of people/things blowing up at/on me. No joke, I destroyed one of the new cash registers at work tonight. No idea how, just did.

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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/25/2011 9:51:17 PM   
LadyPact


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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/25/2011 9:57:43 PM   
YSG


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Status: offline 		Hahahaha no, I dont have kitchen related accidents, actually. I just somehow manage to destroy electronic things without even trying. For example, I cant tell you how many times Ive replaced the tubes and speakers in my amp. Not to mention this is my second one. My first one literally exploded on me.

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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/25/2011 10:02:15 PM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		My view on this will depend entirely if the stove is gas or electric.

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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/26/2011 4:18:25 AM   
YSG


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Status: offline 		Hahahaha well, my stove here is gas. However, the stove I had living down in GA was electric, and I never had a problem with that either.

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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/26/2011 5:46:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		So Geoff, from this we are to assume that you do not spend very much time in the kitchen?

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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/26/2011 6:14:54 AM   
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Are you channeling Holly?  If you try to make a meatloaf, you might scare Me.



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RE: Matriarchal Co-housing....thoughts? - 3/26/2011 7:53:01 AM   
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So Geoff, from this we are to assume that you do not spend very much time in the kitchen?

Um, what? No, I do spend alot of time in the kitchen. The stove is the one electronic thing that I dont have problems with

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