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flcouple2009 -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 12:07:00 PM)

Thus saith the hypocrite also known as Flip Flop




slvemike4u -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 12:14:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Every issue, every time popeye.

Several of them still act like theyre having heart palpitations because I used the word 'libtard' a few times... [;)]

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Sanity, "one set of rules for THEM, another set for "everyone else."

We need to have a conversation concerning the meaning of a "few times".
Edited to add
Though perhaps we can skip that talk....and I can tell myself that I only muttered "asshole" to myself a few times while reading your posts [:)]




Sanity -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 12:21:05 PM)


Sure, youll comment that Im an asshole.

Not a word about the guy who openly brags that he dreams about mass murder though...






popeye1250 -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 12:21:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Decades ago I was in the Teamsters and I have a brother who's in the Teamsters now for over twenty years.
There was NEVER any violence by the Teamsters and if anyone says there is they get their fuckin' head cracked!

I'm very "Pro-Union."
I know, I know, how "Conservative" of me!


Pops sure there have been cases of Union violence going back through the years.  People do stupid things.  My Dad wasn't in the union where he worked.  As a foreman in their structure he was a company guy.  The one time I remember them being on strike we had all 4 tires on one of our cars slashed overnight, twice.  There was some other assorted petty nonsense towards others as well.

But I do believe if you go back through history in this country most of the serious violence was committed by hired thugs of the companies.  Such as the violence committed during the mine wars in West Virginia.

I do believe that most of the talk about "cracking heads", "spilling some blood", "whatever it takes", is just rah rah rhetoric.

It's not smart and really has no place in the discussion.  But I still can't equate that with a DA making comments that Police should open fire on a peaceful unarmed crowd.



Yeah, there was a hell of a lot of violence perpetrated against the coal miners in Va and W. Va. by the cos. and they fought back as well they should.
They, and everyone have the right to defend themselves.
Now what if this Asst. DA were a Democrat or Independant?
How would that make it, "not as bad?"
I have another brother who's a member of the Firefighter's Union. He's a Lt. on a large dept in the Boston, Mass area.
My father was in the Firefighter's Union for 32 years.
My mother was in the Telephone worker's Union.
An uncle was in the Telephone worker's Union for 38 years and every few years he'd be on strike for a month or two.
People need to look at the big picture here! Cities and towns all over the country are taking in MUCH less tax revenue due to this "global economy." Factories close and "offshore" and hundreds of people are layed off. Then small businesses close, then businesses that supplied the factories close laying off more workers and it's not just blue collar workers it's white collar workers as well.
CNBC said we're entering a "double dip reccession." One commentator asked, "when did we get out of the *first* one?
That "global economy-free-trade" crap doesn't work! Not for the working class and certainly not for the middle class that's been decimated!
And it's *our own government* that has shoved this crap down our throats that noone wants due to taking money from the big corporations that have WAY too much influence over *our* government!
So, what are cities and towns to do if they have much less revenue comming in? They can't give raises. The can't make payments on expensive health insurance policies for their employees.
This "global-economy, free trade" crap is ruining this country. I just wonder how long it takes before we go from "recession" to "depression."




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 12:29:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I love this, you cant make this kind of comedy up. [:D]

tazzy starts this thread worrying that some nobody state activist / deputy prosecutor could have violent leanings, and I guess we are all supposed to be just, absolutely gravely concerned and vote Democratic the rest of our lives due to this...

Meanwhile on another thread one of our oh-so open minded, and warm and fuzzy super cuddly liberal types openly brags that he daydreams about murdering innocent people with his car and we arent supposed to even notice it (I am guessing).

At least, no one has so much as raised an eyebrow over his statement yet...


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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda
Her district is 5 miles north of my house. You'd be amazed at how many stupid, ignorant, semi-literate bumpkins there are in Minnesota. Sometimes when I'm driving down the street it's all I can do to keep from steering up on the sidewalk.








They're not innocent. They're Republicans!




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 12:30:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Sure, youll comment that Im an asshole.

Not a word about the guy who openly brags that he dreams about mass murder though...





You'd better calm down before we come and unplug your grandmother.




slvemike4u -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 12:34:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Sure, youll comment that Im an asshole.

Not a word about the guy who openly brags that he dreams about mass murder though...



Okie dokie sanity...to assuage you outrage here goes :
Bad Panda....Bad.




flcouple2009 -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 12:35:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
Now what if this Asst. DA were a Democrat or Independant?
How would that make it, "not as bad?"


First you would have to find anywhere I've actually referenced his political association.

I do believe what I've said was he was a dumb ass and his boss decided that was not proper representation for the DA's office.

I do believe I also mentioned that the remarks from the Congressman were just as dumb and irresponsible.  His employers (the voters) are free to either fire him come election time or try and start a recall now.

Please find anywhere I have any way suggested the comment would be OK if he were part of a different political party.










flcouple2009 -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 12:42:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Im an asshole.


It was just too much to pass up.

And yes Panda was a little over the top with his wishes to clear the sidewalk.  But I do also see an attempt at humor.  I don't think there is anyone here who can honestly say they believe we're going to be seeing videos on the evening news of a cute little Panda driving down the sidewalks of MN.

With you,  well when the shoe fits and such.





RacerJim -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 12:46:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

How dumb does one have to be to actually put something like that in writing?

Not quite as dumb as the last Democratic nominee for POTUS who said during a recorded campaign interview “The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.” only to do exactly that after becoming POTUS.




popeye1250 -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 12:47:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250
Now what if this Asst. DA were a Democrat or Independant?
How would that make it, "not as bad?"


First you would have to find anywhere I've actually referenced his political association.

I do believe what I've said was he was a dumb ass and his boss decided that was not proper representation for the DA's office.

I do believe I also mentioned that the remarks from the Congressman were just as dumb and irresponsible.  His employers (the voters) are free to either fire him come election time or try and start a recall now.

Please find anywhere I have any way suggested the comment would be OK if he were part of a different political party.










That's all? Ok fine, you didn't mention his political affiliation.
But,...what about the rest of my post?




Sanity -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 12:51:18 PM)


Dont ever quit posting panda, no one here proves conservative points better than you do. [:D]

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda
They're not innocent. They're Republicans!





Lucylastic -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 12:52:26 PM)

Ermmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Hasnt Popeye said and a couple of other  talked about shooting up people crossing the border, using landmines etc etc?

How is that any different from someone who wants to run people over  in his car??
thats mass murder too isnt it?
Yet sanity is fine with popeye saying things like that
flip and flop, flip and flop
Has he even responded to the original post about the guy wanting to shoot protestors?, or is he too busy derailing and obfuscating?
Im only getting his drivel from quotes
Its a lot quieter this way:)




Moonhead -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 1:50:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Moonhead, What chimp are you talking about ? Bush or Obama ?


The faux Texan chimp who sent emails about the business of governance through services that weren't part of the government apparatus, but still claimed that they were official (and thus confidential) when it suited him. The cocksucker who spent eight years running up your deficit and fighting wars under false pretences. That chimp.
The Kenyan may be a lying cunt, but he's shown slightly more class than the shrub thus far, though this is hardly difficult: he just needs to avoid mocking cripples at press conferences...




popeye1250 -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 1:55:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Dont ever quit posting panda, no one here proves conservative points better than you do. [:D]

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda
They're not innocent. They're Republicans!





Sanity, you have to give credit to Conservative Mike too.
He's always a welcome allie in any discussion.
"Well Thankyou so Kindly Conservative Mike!"




Hippiekinkster -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 6:23:05 PM)

pops: "How would that make it, "not as bad?" "

Why don't you ask a hard-core Pprogressive? Instead of just postulating moronic shit, why don't you just ask? You right-wingers think you know all about what we think, but you never bother to ask.




pahunkboy -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 6:24:01 PM)

Tazz turns conspiracy nut!


LOL.

This is known as an agent provocateur and has been used for eons.

I cant believe you finally see the games that the big boys do.

Yay for you.




tazzygirl -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 10:18:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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Cox lost his job over the Tweets;


But this guy

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In Massachusetts, meanwhile, U.S. Rep. Michael Capuano, a Democrat, is apologizing for his comments at a Tuesday rally in support of the protesters where he said, "Every once and awhile you need to get out on the streets and get a little bloody when necessary."


is still in office.



And who is going to fire a Representative? The voters.

The call for firing on protesters came from now-former Indiana Deputy Attorney General Jeff Cox, who responded to a Tweet from a Mother Jones reporter saying riot police have been ordered to clear protesters by retweeting the news with the words "Use live ammunition." He also wrote, "You're damn right I advocate deadly force" and, one week ago, "Planned Parenthood could help themselves if the only abortions they performed were retroactive."

He called for live ammo to be used on a select group of individuals. And your only complaint is that someone else didnt get fired?

Show me a single law that allows for an elected official to get "fired". They can be voted out. They can be repealled. They can be impeached. They dont get "fired".





tazzygirl -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 10:19:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Tazz turns conspiracy nut!


LOL.

This is known as an agent provocateur and has been used for eons.

I cant believe you finally see the games that the big boys do.

Yay for you.



NOW I see where your problem lies. You dont even know what a conspiracy is!




tazzygirl -> RE: Wisconsin call for violence - where it really came from. (3/27/2011 10:22:30 PM)

quote:

Sure, youll comment that Im an asshole.

Not a word about the guy who openly brags that he dreams about mass murder though...


I agree, Sanity. Why havent you spoken out about Cox? Do you advocate the use of ammo in this situation? The use of deadly force?




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