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Hypochondriacs might die TODAY! This means YOU


Yes, I am in pain
  12% (4)
Everything hurts
  6% (2)
It is worse then before
  3% (1)
It is on my left side
  0% (0)
Mainly on my right side
  3% (1)
It is worse when I sit, stand and lay down
  12% (4)
I been sick for years, and years... well all my life
  9% (3)
I can barely post today- due to my issues
  15% (5)
Sometimes I feel worse
  15% (5)
I am cured- this poll did it!
  21% (7)


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RE: Hypochondriacs might die TODAY! This means YOU - 3/30/2011 12:19:43 PM   
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It is not that I think it is a bum deal-  she just has to mind what she says around impressionable kids-  as everyone of us on this list would have to as well.    that is the nature of the dynamics.


And of course your mum has "no idea" how to behave around kids....cause she has no clue how to bring up kids in the first place, does she *huge eyeroll*.

Seriously if I would be in your mums position and my brood would moan like that I would tell them to look after the lil ones themselves...either accept it as she does it or look for someone else.




Teaching someone to feel sorry for themself does not fix the problem- if there IS a ailment.

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RE: Hypochondriacs might die TODAY! This means YOU - 3/30/2011 12:32:54 PM   
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Someone explain to me how if I start self pity how that will improve my life?

Maybe I should try it.

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RE: Hypochondriacs might die TODAY! This means YOU - 3/30/2011 12:45:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Someone explain to me how if I start self pity how that will improve my life?



It makes you human.


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RE: Hypochondriacs might die TODAY! This means YOU - 3/30/2011 12:57:47 PM   
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Someone explain to me how if I start self pity how that will improve my life?



It makes you human.



Yep...its good to have feelings and to be able to acknowledge them

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RE: Hypochondriacs might die TODAY! This means YOU - 3/30/2011 1:28:24 PM   
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Someone explain to me how if I start self pity how that will improve my life?

Maybe I should try it.



I kinda think you do it already.

PA, remember when you had the sig line something like "I DON'T NEED MEDICATION"? Everyone was telling YOU what YOUR problem was. I'm sure that didn't feel very good.
When I see you post things that directly contradict what you had posted previously, I think, "that's just PA". People take you as you are, return the favor to your Mom.

Try to have compassion for your Mom as a person and don't look at her solely in her role as your Mom.

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RE: Hypochondriacs might die TODAY! This means YOU - 3/30/2011 4:13:14 PM   
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"Come on!  This silence is making my head hurt. "

It's all in your mind.

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RE: Hypochondriacs might die TODAY! This means YOU - 3/30/2011 5:40:15 PM   
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I disagree that we should teach the kids to be a hypochondriac.



How can you teach someone a medical condition? And how can you say this so advanced in the thread after so many informed opinions?

I disagree with this completely. I would never pass up any opportunity to teach kids kindness, compassion and concern for older people.


The bolded part should be what the focus is on.

A few more things:
I gave care to an elderly woman who complained a lot about abdominal pain.
Everyone in he family assumed it was all in her head.

They were very fond of me and invited me to the 60th wedding anniversary party.
It never happened.
Instead she was admitted to the hospital via an emergency admit and they discovered extensive metastisized cancer.
She spent their anniversary in the hospital and was never well enough to celebrate.

The last thing PA, I mentioned this before.
Do you have any idea how many posts you have made that refer to you not feeling well?
Any idea at all.
For awhile, the majority of your posts were about that.
Somehow that was okay, but your mother having moments of not feeling well isn't?

You have had a lot of input from people who work in the medical field who have patiently explained that even if your mother's pain was based on her being a hypochondriac, that does not make it any less real.
It is neither imaginary, nor exaggerated.

Furthermore, you have a bunch of other folks who have related their expeience of having very real, but undiagnosed illnesses...that caused them very real pain and they too were told it was all in their heads... only to sometimes find out decades later that they were absofuckinglutely right all along, and the doctors were wrong.

In either case, you are missing that your mother's pain is real.
Obviously, she functions well enough that she can take care of your sister's kids.

You worry about what she is teaching them.
How about actually seeing that she is teaching them that people can have pain and life goes on anyway.
She isn't hiding in bed, she is taking care of them. And that they have a gandmother who loves them and cares about them enough to show up and be there for them.

Also, in case you don't know, sore tummies can be for all kinds of reasons that might not have anything to do with your mother.

The anxiety of missing mummy for example.

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RE: Hypochondriacs might die TODAY! This means YOU - 4/1/2011 10:20:14 AM   
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PA,

I have kind of allowed this thread to trickle over to other threads.
I wish to apologise for that.

I think I found this thread and your views so frustrating because it just goes so against the picture I have of you.

You are generally caring and so open with your compassion that your attitude took me completely by surprise.

I can understand that you may see that it is your duty perhaps to take up for the party that is more apt to be harmed, and that would be the child...

...to protect him, but I found it frustrating that you seemed to be completely closed to anyone else's point of view and I thought a lot of people (besides me) made some very good and valid points.

It is as though you had your mind made up and were unwilling to see it any other way.

To reassure you, perhaps, kids are very resilient.

And I do think it possible that at that age tummy aches and such may have more to do with missing mummy than with 'catching' what your mother has so to speak.


Be well and best wishes for your mother's continued good health and well-being.


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RE: Hypochondriacs might die TODAY! This means YOU - 4/4/2011 4:51:20 AM   
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I've suffered from depression since the age of 6, yes, 6 yrs old.  My dad was the one who got up in the middle of the night with me when I'd have severe anxiety attacks, couldn't breathe and had my head stuck out my bedroom window in -30 degree weather.  He cried for me as he didn't know what to do.  My mom for over 35 yrs told me I just had to pull myself up by my bootstraps.  And I was taking too much time off work and I'd get fired.  Never happened. 

It took until about 10 yrs ago to be properly diagnosed with clinical depression, GAD, SAD, Borderline Personality Disorder and assorted "other" goodies.  Yet my mom still said it was all in my head.  My dad was my support system and there was nothing he didn't try to get me help.  I now have to fight provincial bureaucracy, medical numbnuts and people in general.  Even friends I've had to drop because they're disgusted that I can't work.

My everyday aches and pains are real, not imagined.  The gawd-awful migraines I've suffered from for years took years to diagnose.  I was told it was all in my head.  Well, yeah, DUH, it is.  And still I can't get a doc to prescribe a medication that will help me through one.  So I'm left with ice packs, dark rooms and extra-strength Advil, doesn't work all that well.

I am sick and tired of feeling sick and tired everyday.  It seriously affects my life.  Nothing gets done, I've become a hermit, I don't go out unless I have to and even that's no guarantee that I'll get my groceries done when they need to be, that my car will get fixed when it needs to be. 

So to me, the hell with people who think I'm faking.  O HELL NO.  I don't have time for them.  I'm too busy with "it's all in my head" to bother even trying to explain how I feel and feeling like a failure because others don't and won't understand.

My 16 yr niece was supposed to go on a school trip to Europe over the March break.  A week before she started to get a seriously upset stomach, couldn't keep anything down.  Then the nerves started, and the anxiety.  My sister, smart mom that she is, took her to their GP right away.  Turns out my niece was in such a panic about going away for the first time without parental unit who'd looked after passport, money.  Then there was the fact that there were 44 students going with 5 adults and they'd be staying 4 to a room.  My sister had been smart and taken out cancellation insurance.  Doc presribed a mild sedative which my niece hated, made her woozy, sis said forget it  then don't take them, niece was re-assured, ended up not going.  Now she's back to being herself.  No biggie on the missed trip.  

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