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Sanity -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/29/2011 7:29:30 PM)
It was twins, you look like identical twins... I love how these tales get taller every time theyre retold. Soon, I will be every bit the legend mnot thinks he is, renown in the BDSM world for even uglier rudeness than the domitroll himself... [sm=dancer.gif] quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic I am not a limey bastard..my parents were married !!! I thought you were the dumb cunt from Canada with the fat ass Signed The Moron Couple or was that Moron Twins, fuck I can't remember [:D]

TheHeretic -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/29/2011 8:11:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic For the same reasons I don't need the neighbors telling me not to beat my wife, Was that irony? If not, er, yes it is other people's business if you're beating your wife. Do you understand what kind of website this is, Peon?

Tantriqu -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/29/2011 8:24:19 PM)
Happy almost bicentennial of the Brits and Canucks beating back yank invading forces, TWICE, right down to Virginia, and burning down your first little white house :-) Remember that half-finished portrait of Washington? when Dolly Madison scarpered? Because WE were coming :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbQ7WkNw0ig The War of 1812, And the white house burned, burned, burned, and the Americans ran and cried like a bunch of little babies, waa waa waa

LadyPact -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/29/2011 8:28:18 PM)
I don't participate down here too much. I have to admit that I've seen comments similar to what the OP is saying and I've never understood it. If you are going to have a board that is basically opinions regarding politics and/or religion, it would seem that an opinion would be just as worthwhile regardless of the location of the person giving it. quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Do you understand what kind of website this is, Peon? Up until now, I thought I was the only one who brought this up in this section. LOL.

FirmhandKY -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/29/2011 9:26:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tantriqu Happy almost bicentennial of the Brits and Canucks beating back yank invading forces, TWICE, right down to Virginia, and burning down your first little white house :-) Remember that half-finished portrait of Washington? when Dolly Madison scarpered? Because WE were coming :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbQ7WkNw0ig The War of 1812, And the white house burned, burned, burned, and the Americans ran and cried like a bunch of little babies, waa waa waa So the Canucks were part of the invasion and burning of the "under-construction" White House in 1812? Damn ... learn something new every day, I guess ... But, I guess "thanks" are in order, since that was one of the events that propelled the US to decide that they had to have a larger, more powerful Navy and military forces ... The rest "is history" as they say. [:D] Firm

SexyBossyBBW -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/29/2011 10:01:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Now, (after a sorta rough beginning) they have been our NATO partner and close ally through thick and thin, for years and eons. They are involved in the Libya situation, the Iraq situation and were involved the Afghanistan sitution and on and on, us shipping back and forth to one another, banking with each other, doing the on the road movies together......we each share a common vital interest globally, for many issues--- So why can't they involve theirselves in our politics and convey as a people their political takes and thoughts on America? Who says they can't opine on our politics? I'll join the spanking party of anyone who dares to... Especially since them English and Candian people, all seem to say whatever they need to, very well on these boards. Smart bunch, they seem to me M

tweakabelle -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/29/2011 11:41:17 PM)
Any one can post on any issue that pleases them as far as I'm concerned. It makes sense to me to have those views heard and assessed according to their content and quality rather than some arbitrary criterion like geographical location or some individual American's check list of likes and dislikes. I'd go a long way to listen to the Mandelas of this world talk about any issue of their choice, but I can't see myself getting out of bed to listen to the Palins of this planet. The world's a small place that gets smaller every day. National boundaries mean less and less. The Net makes communication faster and faster. Get used to it. What's the big deal?

FirmhandKY -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/30/2011 12:09:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle What's the big deal? Superficiality. Plus, take the concepts of false friends and false cognates and apply them to cultures and societies. Firm

Moonhead -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/30/2011 5:06:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY So the Canucks were part of the invasion and burning of the "under-construction" White House in 1812? It's nice to see somebody remember that Canada was still a vassal state in 1812.

stellauk -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/30/2011 6:16:08 AM)
Hello Firm, great to see you back. You need to be a bit more careful however with what you post. For example you wrote this quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY Any time you post and tell an American what is right or wrong about some American political aspect, you are making a claim of greater knowledge or insight. and then this quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY First, I specifically excluded you from one of the non-Americans who opinion holds no worth. Apologies for using your words as an example, but a consistent judgment about a person and the belief that their opinion holds no worth does not indicate an awareness of the fundamental principle of free speech. An opinion is an opinion, nothing more. All opinions are equal and valid. This is what free speech and freedom of personal expression is all about. The opinion may be informed, it may be ill-informed, it may be biased, it may be unpopular, it may be racist, sexist, homophobic, or whatever, but it is still an opinion and is worthy of an audience. You may not accept the opinion as valid. You may not accept the person who expresses the opinion. That is also your right and your freedom. But to dismiss an opinion because you dismiss the person making the opinion and to claim that the opinions of that person hold no worth isn't showing a respect for freedom of speech and personal self-expression. Having an open mind is. You have an open mind, as does everyone else. And when you close it by making statements such as the above there will be someone like me who comes along and tries to open it. The fundamental aspect of free speech. Your choice whether you wish to respect it or not. As for the topic itself the Americans have practised cultural imperialism, as have the Brits, for a number of years. When you practise cultural imperialism, you invariably grant other people the right and freedom to make judgments and hold opinions about American culture and society. If you walk around town letting it be known that you beat your wife, do not be upset when people offer their opinions on this. It all comes down to living in glass houses and stones. I wish you both and your critters well in KY.

FirmhandKY -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/30/2011 7:00:15 AM)
Hi, Stella! I'll probably not be "back" as much as I was in the past: too much else going on in my life to devote too much time to the forums, but thanks for missing me. [:)] As for your post, I'll have to disagree: not all opinions are as valid, nor as worthy of attention as others. And this is a different concept than "free speech". Being able to separate out the dreck from the jewels is an important aspect of a discerning individual. If we accept all opinions as "equally valid", then we run the risk of paralysis, and of making bad decisions due to bad input (garbage in, garbage out). The idea of American "cultural imperialism" is an interesting one, and likely deserves it own thread. I'm not sure that "cultural imperialism" actually exists in the way that many mean. And even if it does, that it is either a "bad thing" or that it gives any greater weight to an individual's opinion concerning things that they do not know, or the right to believe that there opinion should be just as valid about internal American issues. Think superficiality, false friends and false cognates again. Thank you for your post however. You always have an interesting point of view, and I do read your posts with interest. Firm

Edwynn -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/30/2011 7:15:09 AM)
There is a difference in calling someone out for being a wife beater, with or without the boasting, and calling the entire neighbor hood wife beaters because of this same person. In this case the whole neighborhood, keeping to the analogy here, even if having some few wife beaters and possibly even some more few professing pride in it, in fact is not going around and bragging about it to the world, all claims of such from another neighborhood notwithstanding. How people elsewhere can come to this or any other US based political board and witness the sharp divisions amoungst large groups of people and then almost immediately spout things such as "America this ... or A. that," "You Americans think that ... , " "Why do Americans always ...?", etc. shows something beyond mere ignorance or lack of perception, I think. Ignorance I'm used to. We have plenty of it here, though it be not as typical or pervasive as would suit others' perception, so the ignorance alone doesn't trouble me so much. My inclination sometimes is to say "we're doing well enough on our own here, we don't need to import any, thanks!" But being against import tariffs and quotas and such, I'd never go as to actively prohibit it nor even outwardly proclaim that it is unwanted. The outright malice and the pot shots are another matter, however much flimsily disguised as 'concern' for other parts of the world, etc., essentially all of which assumes malicious intent and and ignorance across the board of 'Americans.' The word "projection" comes to mind in these instances. If you want to discuss something with others then by all means do so. If you throw rocks at people expect that some few may be headed your way soon after.

kdsub -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/30/2011 7:16:34 AM)
Hi Stella I hadn't mentioned how good it was to see you back. Myself I welcome all comments...Imagine how boring this forum would be without all the different views of this world...How else do we learn what others think? Even if it does piss us off now and then. Butch

tweakabelle -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/30/2011 7:26:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle What's the big deal? Superficiality. Plus, take the concepts of false friends and false cognates and apply them to cultures and societies. Firm Without bothering to address your claims, on what basis do you claim the right to attempt to define things for everyone else ?

mnottertail -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/30/2011 7:30:48 AM)
Well mama and food, cmon (why do they have those big american breasts?), it may be that nice meant a fool at one time, but time makes fools of us all. False cognates, yeah, like when nutsuckers say socialist (in some form of perjorative), and everybody, nearly the entire world, goes, what the fuck is wrong with that, is this fucking guy entirely moronic?

FirmhandKY -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/30/2011 7:35:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle What's the big deal? Superficiality. Plus, take the concepts of false friends and false cognates and apply them to cultures and societies. Without bothering to address your claims, on what basis do you claim the right to attempt to define things for everyone else ? You're going to have to ... uh ... define the issue before I can respond. [:)] Firm

mnottertail -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/30/2011 7:37:27 AM)
on what basis do you claim the right to attempt to define things for everyone else I think you could use this as a working hypothesis, of what the issue is defined as for her. Jus' sayin' Ron [:D]

tweakabelle -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/30/2011 8:14:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle What's the big deal? Superficiality. Plus, take the concepts of false friends and false cognates and apply them to cultures and societies. Without bothering to address your claims, on what basis do you claim the right to attempt to define things for everyone else ? You're going to have to ... uh ... define the issue before I can respond. [:)] Firm You have already defined specific issues and nominated specific individuals above. No need for me to define anything. What gives you the right to make such definitions? You, and everyone else have every right to express a view. AFAIK only Collarme.com has the right to define on what basis anyone can contribute here.

FirmhandKY -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/30/2011 10:22:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY You're going to have to ... uh ... define the issue before I can respond. [:)] You have already defined specific issues and nominated specific individuals above. No need for me to define anything. What gives you the right to make such definitions? You, and everyone else have every right to express a view. AFAIK only Collarme.com has the right to define on what basis anyone can contribute here. In case you missed it, the issue and question posed in the OP was: Quite often out here, there is this low-brow rejoinder to our friends in the UK, Canada and other english speaking US Territories.... You have no clue of american politics. ... So why can't they involve theirselves in our politics and convey as a people their political takes and thoughts on America? My response in Post #: 27 was: It depends on how well acquainted a particular individual may be with our internal political dynamics and social culture, and whether or not they then assume that they are "more better" than the citizens of the US to make decisions and judgments about the internal structure and beliefs of this country. When someone with little or no personal experience, and little or no understanding of things "American" claims the right to pass judgment and tell us "what we really mean" or "what you bastards should do", and they base it on ignorance rather than knowledge ... then yes, I'll call them on it. Just as I will when an ignorant or ideologically blind American claims the same rights. I reserve the right to question a non-American's basis of knowledge and understanding before I give weight to their opinion. Which should answer your question. However, I will also say that you are doing what stella did: confusing the issue of "free speech" with the issue of the creditability of someone's opinion. The subject is about the value of an opinion, not the right to express it. Firm

PeonForHer -> RE: Inglorious (Limey) Bastards (3/30/2011 10:30:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY Any time you post and tell an American what is right or wrong about some American political aspect, you are making a claim of greater knowledge or insight. That's true - and at least partially acceptable, in my book. It's called an 'outsider's perspective'. From a distance, a lot of aspects of American politics look as though they're debated within quite a narrow range of perspectives. I'm sure there's much about UK politics that looks similarly restricted to Americans.

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