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tweakabelle -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/28/2011 10:50:30 PM)

Pollitesub, wasn't there a line in "Alice in Wonderland", at the Mad Hatter's Tea Party (no pun intended) ....the Queen saying something like 'words only meaning what I want them to mean'?

More tea anyone? [:D]




Edwynn -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/28/2011 11:11:54 PM)



No worse than the kool-aid of 97% of politics.






rulemylife -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/29/2011 1:00:28 AM)

Let me see if I understand this.

You have just quoted Pat Robertson's Christian Broadcast Network which promotes the return of a Christian messiah to criticize the idea of an Islamic messiah.

See anything wrong in this picture?




rulemylife -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/29/2011 1:05:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: liks2plzlf

Sooner than we think


Hallelujah brother.




rulemylife -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/29/2011 1:09:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

This is what you all get for reading a book without a happy ending.

Treasure, Afghanistan and Libya are not in the middle east. They are also neither north or south of Israel.


Seriously... does it really matter?  Do you think that modern day geographical boundaries were of much consideration when the prophesies were penned?  Is nit-picking your only joy in life?  [;)]



So you are called out for being wrong and it is nit-picking?




Politesub53 -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/29/2011 2:28:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

This is what you all get for reading a book without a happy ending.

Treasure, Afghanistan and Libya are not in the middle east. They are also neither north or south of Israel.


Seriously... does it really matter?  Do you think that modern day geographical boundaries were of much consideration when the prophesies were penned?  Is nit-picking your only joy in life?  [;)]



Nit-picking  ? 

Lest we forget. "Some people in our nation dont have maps"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww  [;)]




tazzygirl -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/29/2011 3:44:24 AM)

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I really can't make up my mind... which link is loonier - the OP link or this doozy!

Should we have a poll on it? ... Or just declare a draw and hope they all go somewhere far far away? Antarctica suggests itself ....... or Pluto or Mars ......


Tweak, it was posted to show the similarities between the two... nothing more, nothing less. Get your atheistic panties out of a wad. I happen to find it fascinating that all the religions seem to "agree" on certain themes, yet they all seem to fight as if their theme is the only theme.




StrangerThan -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/29/2011 4:11:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

This is what you all get for reading a book without a happy ending.

Treasure, Afghanistan and Libya are not in the middle east. They are also neither north or south of Israel.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East

The definition of the middle east is not specifically geographical. Afghanistan and Libya are noted as members of the Greater Middle East.

As well, Israel is defined as lying on a latitude of 31 degrees north, while Libya lies at 25 degrees north. Afghanistan lies on a latitude of 33 degrees north. One doesn't even have to drop to nitpicking technicalities to point out that 25 degrees lies south of 31 degrees, while 33 lies north of it.

Kind of like saying South America is south of North America. While the longitude varies significantly, one is north of the other.

All of which is on a wild tangent to the OP.

In regards to the OP, allowing Iran to gain nuclear capability will certainly go a long way towards creating end times conditions for a lot of people.





Sanity -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/29/2011 6:11:07 AM)


Amen to that brother, as far as I know the Jehovahs Witnesses arent building any nukes.


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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

This is what you all get for reading a book without a happy ending.

Treasure, Afghanistan and Libya are not in the middle east. They are also neither north or south of Israel.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East

The definition of the middle east is not specifically geographical. Afghanistan and Libya are noted as members of the Greater Middle East.

As well, Israel is defined as lying on a latitude of 31 degrees north, while Libya lies at 25 degrees north. Afghanistan lies on a latitude of 33 degrees north. One doesn't even have to drop to nitpicking technicalities to point out that 25 degrees lies south of 31 degrees, while 33 lies north of it.

Kind of like saying South America is south of North America. While the longitude varies significantly, one is north of the other.

All of which is on a wild tangent to the OP.

In regards to the OP, allowing Iran to gain nuclear capability will certainly go a long way towards creating end times conditions for a lot of people.






rulemylife -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/29/2011 6:33:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

This is what you all get for reading a book without a happy ending.

Treasure, Afghanistan and Libya are not in the middle east. They are also neither north or south of Israel.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East

The definition of the middle east is not specifically geographical. Afghanistan and Libya are noted as members of the Greater Middle East.

As well, Israel is defined as lying on a latitude of 31 degrees north, while Libya lies at 25 degrees north. Afghanistan lies on a latitude of 33 degrees north. One doesn't even have to drop to nitpicking technicalities to point out that 25 degrees lies south of 31 degrees, while 33 lies north of it.

Kind of like saying South America is south of North America. While the longitude varies significantly, one is north of the other.

All of which is on a wild tangent to the OP.

In regards to the OP, allowing Iran to gain nuclear capability will certainly go a long way towards creating end times conditions for a lot of people.




I think this statement from a link embedded in the original article sums it up:


The Greater Middle East is a political term coined by the Bush administration....








StrangerThan -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/29/2011 6:43:58 AM)

Hatred of Bush does not make a definition true or untrue.

The fact of the matter is, polite sub attempted to shit all over a post by first issuing his trademark snide comment, then making vague assertions as fact. While in reality, the lines drawn are such that both positions can be considered true based upon interpretation.

In other words, we're back at pointless arguing over someone's attempt to be shitty. You can defend that if you want, especially if plays to your dislike of Bush or Republicans. I'm all for making someone's day better. If it takes that for you, have at it.




rulemylife -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/29/2011 6:53:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

Hatred of Bush does not make a definition true or untrue.

The fact of the matter is, polite sub attempted to shit all over a post by first issuing his trademark snide comment, then making vague assertions as fact. While in reality, the lines drawn are such that both positions can be considered true based upon interpretation.

In other words, we're back at pointless arguing over someone's attempt to be shitty. You can defend that if you want, especially if plays to your dislike of Bush or Republicans. I'm all for making someone's day better. If it takes that for you, have at it.



No, we are back at you trying to bullshit your way through something when you know you are wrong.




StrangerThan -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/29/2011 7:00:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

Hatred of Bush does not make a definition true or untrue.

The fact of the matter is, polite sub attempted to shit all over a post by first issuing his trademark snide comment, then making vague assertions as fact. While in reality, the lines drawn are such that both positions can be considered true based upon interpretation.

In other words, we're back at pointless arguing over someone's attempt to be shitty. You can defend that if you want, especially if plays to your dislike of Bush or Republicans. I'm all for making someone's day better. If it takes that for you, have at it.



No, we are back at you trying to bullshit your way through something when you know you are wrong.



Actually rule, I'm wading through bullshit. You want to argue with definitions, then argue with the people who made them and those who propagate them. In case you don't understand that line, go piss all over Wiki folks for including it in their definition of the middle east and get Bush banned from history.

What is hilarious is that in this progressive mindset, you will only accept the traditional definition because it fits your stance of the moment.

I don't think you understand right from wrong. I think you only understand liberal and conservative.

Go feel better about yourself. 




Moonhead -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/29/2011 7:34:35 AM)

Is it worth mentioning that as Treasure hasn't mentioned Bahrain, it's kicking off in more than ten countries? I'd have thought that was a bigger objection to using the unrest to try to substantiate this prophecy bullshit than a couple of countries named not being in the middle east, meself...




rulemylife -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/29/2011 7:48:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

Actually rule, I'm wading through bullshit. You want to argue with definitions, then argue with the people who made them and those who propagate them. In case you don't understand that line, go piss all over Wiki folks for including it in their definition of the middle east and get Bush banned from history.

What is hilarious is that in this progressive mindset, you will only accept the traditional definition because it fits your stance of the moment.

I don't think you understand right from wrong. I think you only understand liberal and conservative.

Go feel better about yourself. 



I know you're wading through bullshit, of your own making.

You post a ridiculous Wiki article which has a a link to it that contradicts the article itself.

But here you are, back on the podium lecturing about how you stand above the crowd.




StrangerThan -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/29/2011 8:35:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

Actually rule, I'm wading through bullshit. You want to argue with definitions, then argue with the people who made them and those who propagate them. In case you don't understand that line, go piss all over Wiki folks for including it in their definition of the middle east and get Bush banned from history.

What is hilarious is that in this progressive mindset, you will only accept the traditional definition because it fits your stance of the moment.

I don't think you understand right from wrong. I think you only understand liberal and conservative.

Go feel better about yourself. 



I know you're wading through bullshit, of your own making.

You post a ridiculous Wiki article which has a a link to it that contradicts the article itself.

But here you are, back on the podium lecturing about how you stand above the crowd.



The only contradiction is in your mind. As I said before "the lines drawn are such that both positions can be considered true based upon interpretation"

That's lecturing huh? Maybe to the idiots of the world. Reasonable folk understand that either point can be valid based upon the interpretation, wherein the derisive and belittling comment that followed one interpretation attempted to establish as fact two fallacies - one pertaining to direction, the other pertaining to inclusiveness.

So pull out a globe, preferably one with big lines and find those marked latitude and follow them. Then keep roiling in your rabid frenzy of gotta hate Bush over the term Greater Middle East and it's established definition. Like it or not, it exists and is used.

Fuckin sucks don't it?

This kind of crazy shit is why posting here is a waste of effort and time. I can imagine froth beading on your forehead. It's just gotta be uncool.

Besides, I have better things to do today. Gotta get ready for 12 days of sun and fun and travel.

Later




pahunkboy -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/29/2011 8:40:05 AM)

Meanwhile people the gold that YOU own at Fort Knox has been looted.

WAKE UP!




rulemylife -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/29/2011 8:52:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

Actually rule, I'm wading through bullshit. You want to argue with definitions, then argue with the people who made them and those who propagate them. In case you don't understand that line, go piss all over Wiki folks for including it in their definition of the middle east and get Bush banned from history.

What is hilarious is that in this progressive mindset, you will only accept the traditional definition because it fits your stance of the moment.

I don't think you understand right from wrong. I think you only understand liberal and conservative.

Go feel better about yourself. 



I know you're wading through bullshit, of your own making.

You post a ridiculous Wiki article which has a a link to it that contradicts the article itself.

But here you are, back on the podium lecturing about how you stand above the crowd.



The only contradiction is in your mind. As I said before "the lines drawn are such that both positions can be considered true based upon interpretation"

That's lecturing huh? Maybe to the idiots of the world. Reasonable folk understand that either point can be valid based upon the interpretation, wherein the derisive and belittling comment that followed one interpretation attempted to establish as fact two fallacies - one pertaining to direction, the other pertaining to inclusiveness.

So pull out a globe, preferably one with big lines and find those marked latitude and follow them. Then keep roiling in your rabid frenzy of gotta hate Bush over the term Greater Middle East and it's established definition. Like it or not, it exists and is used.

Fuckin sucks don't it?

This kind of crazy shit is why posting here is a waste of effort and time. I can imagine froth beading on your forehead. It's just gotta be uncool.

Besides, I have better things to do today. Gotta get ready for 12 days of sun and fun and travel.

Later



You're completely hilarious Strange.

You post an article that has another link embedded that says the Bush administration coined the phrase Greater Middle East and then you accuse me of Bush hatred for pointing out out what you neglected to read in your own post.




StrangerThan -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/29/2011 9:18:17 AM)

Rule,

What does it matter who coined the phrase?

Just curious. Would it carry more weight if say... Clinton had?

There is a fact. That fact is, I can use the term as it has been defined. Your agreement as to whether you like it or not, or even whether middle easterners like it or not, doesn't upend the fact that the definition exists.

Why do you want to argue over this one point? Is it because you have nothing else to argue about? The hilarity here is arguing over a definition, not so much the definition, but who created it. Therein lies the contradiction at heart, because some don't like it.

Man, I swear, when I say this kind of crazy shit, what I mean is beating a horse over some stupid definition when the gist of the Op is about a crazy man who wants the world to end and is frothing at the mouth to play a part in ending it.




mnottertail -> RE: Mahdi is 'Near' (3/29/2011 10:15:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Meanwhile people the gold that YOU own at Fort Knox has been looted.

WAKE UP!



You wake the fuck up, it's there. 




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