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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 9:47:41 AM   
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its the Libertarians that want everything for free (just as long as the rest of us work to support them).

Hope that helps you...

You obviously have NO idea what you are talking about.


Just like your post brings nothing to the table, eh? At least subrob will know I'm joking with him (as I'm sure he'll shot back something to counter my post). Seriously, its Saturday, dude. Get outside and do SOMETHING.

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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 9:48:47 AM   
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There is a difference bewteen the 2 parties voters.Democrats rely on a mix bag of voters.A rather diverse coalition of voters.Liberals,minoritys,women,considerate,passionate voters.Republicans usually rely on the same type of voters.Older whites,those who don't want change,the biggots,the depressed and anrgy voters.

While Democrats are the party of peace and happiness,getting such a diverse group of voters to vote at 1 time is tough.Thats usually because these people actually have something else to do with their life.While Republicans voters are very well organized.Especially the older white votes.These people have nothing better to do and since they don't want progress,they have that extra time to come out and vote.

2012 will be an interesting election for America.Will Obama be able to bring out the record number of voters that he did in 2008?Will the GOP continue to use the Tea Partys vote for their advantage and bring out the more angry voters?Only time wil tell.

The last sentence of your first paragraph demonstrates the difference between the 2 party's voters as well as anything. Democrats rely on attacking those who don't agree with them.

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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 9:49:45 AM   
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The greatest menace to our civilization is the conflict between giant organized systems of self-righteousness - each only too delighted to find that the other is wicked - each only too glad that the sins of the other give it pretext for still deeper hatred. ~Herbert Butterfield

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the object is to create a position if none exists,
get people to identify with a group
get them to dig their heels in and
eternally fight an opposing party

as long as people are fighting among themselves they are too busy to investigate the unchecked cancer growing unchecked on the roots. 

blacks/whites
dem/rep
whatever




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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 9:53:23 AM   
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There is a difference bewteen the 2 parties voters.



really?

what about people with semi functional brains who vote for the person not the party?


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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 10:00:41 AM   
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Charles, That hot Florida sun has finally gotten to your brain. Democrats are the party of peace and happiness ? Have you paid any attention to the angry democrats in Wisconsin over the last month or so ? They're not peacefull and they certainly are not happy. What a load of crap..

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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 10:01:58 AM   
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We were so fascinated watching the violently angry republican thugs we forgot.

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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 10:03:20 AM   
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Don't you mean violent union thugs ?

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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 10:04:05 AM   
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Seriously, its Saturday, dude. Get outside and do SOMETHING.

What we need here is a smiley with its foot in its mouth.

K.

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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 10:10:24 AM   
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Charles, That hot Florida sun has finally gotten to your brain. Democrats are the party of peace and happiness ? Have you paid any attention to the angry democrats in Wisconsin over the last month or so ? They're not peacefull and they certainly are not happy. What a load of crap..


Because they have good reasons to be angry.

But hey, you made good use out of your union but I guess everyone else is just taking advantage.

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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 10:12:46 AM   
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no, I mean the violent and lawless republican thugs that befouled and criminally abrogated the constituion of Wisconsin, and possibly the Constitution of the United States.

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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 10:45:15 AM   
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the object is to create a position if none exists,
get people to identify with a group
get them to dig their heels in and
eternally fight an opposing party

as long as people are fighting among themselves they are too busy to investigate the unchecked cancer growing unchecked on the roots. 

blacks/whites
dem/rep
whatever



Thank God we have fair and balanced people like you who can point out everyone's errors.





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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 11:00:07 AM   
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Ok, so the word "liberal" is being used here.  But (in my mind, and through-out my life) this is what I always considered a liberal.  Today, both the democratic party and the republican party seem to be in a power struggle.  Who has more clout than the other...and it's my opinion that mindset holds this country back.

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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 11:08:02 AM   
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“ ...someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal', then I’m proud to say I’m a 'Liberal'."

What a load of crap.  The problem is that the word "cares" in the first sentence means "taxes to support".  There...that's what being a liberal is.  Conservatives believe you should be able to secure your own health care, your own housing and be the primary educator of your children.  As far as civil rights are concerned, the party of civil rights is the republicans; note Abraham Lincoln and Dwight D. Eisenhower.  Giving an entitlement only creates a dependency on the entitled.  Those weak people will fight to the death to keep their entitlement even though their country is bankrupt, the well has run dry and their system has failed; Greece, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Ireland, France, Great Britain and the United States.  What happens when your debt is 300% of your GDP?  You cease to be a country.  And that is where all of the aforementioned countries age going.  RIP America

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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 11:15:02 AM   
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what a load of crap.

'Conservatives believe you should be able to secure your own health care, your own housing and be the primary educator of your children."

Then why are conservatives not doing any of these things?

Why are you not pushing to get rid of "group health insurance," public schools, police and fire departments and all property taxes attributed to home ownership?

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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 11:17:50 AM   
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That sounds more like your interpretation of care.  It certainly didn't cross my mind.  But now that you mention taxes....how are we to get any revenue in this country if we don't tax???  Or have you been brought up to believe the only way to make money is to support the people who have money and keep taking from the people who don't?

It's my opinion Lincoln and Eisenhower were different republicans than the party of NO and Opposition we have today.  Everything that happens now, despite it also happened during a republican administration, is awful or, as you say "A load of crap".

And again...that you want to associate caring with entitlement is not my problem or a liberal's problem.  Its a conservative's misunderstanding, if you get my drift.  Caring to me means something to the tune of "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country".  Quite the opposite of what conservatives think liberals are all about.  Since all I ever hear is how liberals want hand outs, while conservatives do what??.....Support this country?  LOL.   Unless you are fortunate enough to be in that upper 1-2% or even 5% of the richest in this country, you'll be sucking on sour grapes one day...wondering what happened.


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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 11:24:46 AM   
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Government is a necessary evil but it is an evil nonethless.  I don't argue about abolishment of all services. But pull the chart up on government spending since WWII.  You want to seize on the fact that conservatives believe the individual has primary responsibility for their own life?  Well...isn't it the individual's responsibility not to buy/sell/use drugs?  How much less law enforcement would be needed if people lead a lawful existence?  You want to argue it isn't the parents that should educate their children but the State?  Did you read the book that pits the Chi-Com Moms against U.S. moms?  

Why aren't conservatives doing any of these things?  I don't know about you but I don't collect welfare, I house myself, I make my own living, I put savings aside for my retirement, I buy my own health insurance.  Why do YOU feel it is such a radical idea for everyone to do that?  Ask yourself why you need to be supported by tax payers.


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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 11:25:55 AM   
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Of course I don't vote strictly party lines!I vote for the person who is best prepared for the job..However,if I had to pick bewteen the 2 major parties here in America,in general,then I will go with the (D)!

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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 11:29:15 AM   
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So called "conservatives" have been using Government for the last 30-40 years now to restrict people's freedom.They use government to force religion down everyone's throat.Whether its telling people what to do in the bedroom,to telling who can and get married,"Conservative Republicans" love to use the Jesus card every chance they get to force another religous bill down everyones throat.The only freedom conservative Republicans are for is more economic freedom for their billionaire buddies that they go play golf with.

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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 11:31:32 AM   
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Wow...you are resorting to campaign slogans now?  More crap:

"Its a conservative's misunderstanding, if you get my drift.  Caring to me means something to the tune of "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"." 

Do you even know what a patriot is?  Let me give you a head's up.  A patriot is a person that loves the ideals on which his/her country was founded.  Those ideals, since you love quoting politi-speak so much, center around our Judeo-Christian values and our belief in a creator.  Nowhere did our founding fathers discuss endless welfare where a man who does not work can collect a check.  You want to do something very patriotic for your country?  Live independently.  You want to do something super patriotic?  Be so successful in what you do that you are able to pay other Americans to work for you and they them enough so that they can live independently also.

Here is more crap:

"Unless you are fortunate enough to be in that upper 1-2% or even 5% of the richest in this country, you'll be sucking on sour grapes one day...wondering what happened."

I make a very good living and I don't consider myself "fortunate".  It isn't "good fortune" it is working your ass off!!!!!!!!!  I didn't get hand outs, I didn't fleece people, I didn't beg, I didn't have crack heads for parents.  I produced a product, did it well and got compensated for doing it.  Really....it is THAT simple.

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RE: Democrats vs Republican voters - 4/2/2011 11:31:37 AM   
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the object is to create a position if none exists,
get people to identify with a group
get them to dig their heels in and
eternally fight an opposing party

as long as people are fighting among themselves they are too busy to investigate the unchecked cancer growing unchecked on the roots. 

blacks/whites
dem/rep
whatever



Thank God we have fair and balanced people like you who can point out everyone's errors.







well I realize their strife and agony to control others by use of the mob rather than championing "individual" rights.


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Democracy; The 'People' voted on 'which' amendment?

Yesterdays tinfoil is today's reality!

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