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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/9/2011 5:56:59 PM   
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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/9/2011 6:09:49 PM   
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tell me did you submit to islam to?? did you forget 9/11??? we (my Family) lost someone on that day, you expect me to respect those animals???



Do you think the IRA represents all Catholics? Do you think the Orangemen represent all Protestants? Do you think that the latest Syrian born Palestinian bomber represents all Muslims? Does the stupidity of the Israeli government represent the followers of the Jewish faith all over the world? Let's not stop there. The atrocities of white on black by a few means that all whites are animals. The crimes of some blacks on whites means that all blacks are animals. Native peoples committed atrocities upon each other, committed atrocities upon foreign invaders, had foreign invaders commit atrocities upon them (especially that last one). Animals, all of them, the whole list.

You need to get out more there, at least open a window every once in a while.


The county I live in is 54% black population. The Grocery store I go to is staffed at least 40% by some Jewish sect that tells them they have to wear those caps in public at all times (all men as staff, the only women from this group are customers). The store is also staffed by white and black and latino people, and have as customers all the above in addition to some middle easterners who seem to be of the Muslim faith, a large contingent of those, actually.

Every one of these people if taken as a 'race' or as a 'creed' have somewhere in their history or sometimes in the present some mark against them in some manner. In other words, by your standard, they are animals. But read back through the entire list again.

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you expect me to respect those animals???



Who gives one whit about the respect of a freakin' worm? You delude yourself greatly.



I was born and raised by animals, I soon was dealing socially with animals of a different color, and as life went on I successively met different groups of animals.







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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/9/2011 6:59:30 PM   
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tell me did you submit to islam to?? did you forget 9/11??? we (my Family) lost someone on that day, you expect me to respect those animals???



Do you think the IRA represents all Catholics? Do you think the Orangemen represent all Protestants? Do you think that the latest Syrian born Palestinian bomber represents all Muslims? Does the stupidity of the Israeli government represent the followers of the Jewish faith all over the world? Let's not stop there. The atrocities of white on black by a few means that all whites are animals. The crimes of some blacks on whites means that all blacks are animals. Native peoples committed atrocities upon each other, committed atrocities upon foreign invaders, had foreign invaders commit atrocities upon them (especially that last one). Animals, all of them, the whole list.

You need to get out more there, at least open a window every once in a while.


The county I live in is 54% black population. The Grocery store I go to is staffed at least 40% by some Jewish sect that tells them they have to wear those caps in public at all times (all men as staff, the only women from this group are customers). The store is also staffed by white and black and latino people, and have as customers all the above in addition to some middle easterners who seem to be of the Muslim faith, a large contingent of those, actually.

Every one of these people if taken as a 'race' or as a 'creed' have somewhere in their history or sometimes in the present some mark against them in some manner. In other words, by your standard, they are animals. But read back through the entire list again.

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you expect me to respect those animals???



Who gives one whit about the respect of a freakin' worm? You delude yourself greatly.



I was born and raised by animals, I soon was dealing socially with animals of a different color, and as life went on I successively met different groups of animals.









yes thats an insult to Animals, Animals dont commit acts of terror!


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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/9/2011 7:20:19 PM   
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It was originally your term, not mine.


I wish that you might calm down just a bit, dear brother.


I understand frustration with the world.


I'm going through some bit of that myself.




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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/9/2011 8:05:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Edwynn...you are being too literal as well...I am not defending anyone else’s feelings on Islam... I've stated mine many times over... I've defended the vast majority of good Muslim people just wanting to live their lives in peace.

The example I used was not from a cleric by the way but his sentiments I have heard before.

But please answer this outside of the hysterical arbitrary comments posted previously….In general do the followers of Islam react more violently then followers of Christianity, or even pure atheists for that matter to insults of their religion?

To me they do… it is not just radical Islam that reacts violently either…every day people can easily be manipulated to violence.

Now… do I think this violence is exclusive to Islam… hell no that is why I want that damn asshole that started all this to be held responsible.

Many in this country agree with me…now I wonder how many Muslims want those that demonstrated in violent demonstrations brought to justice? Or do they want to make excuses for them.

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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/9/2011 10:06:39 PM   
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Yes Butch, any of us can keep our own score cards and you can have your own 10 criteria slots and I can have my own 12 criteria slots for our scoring system as to come up with some ranking of propensity to violence. My own scoring system takes into account very simple statistics, like how many people have died as a result. For some reason, the US government came out worse than Muslim terrorists on that score.


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In general do the followers of Islam react more violently then followers of Christianity, or even pure atheists for that matter to insults of their religion?




I would not argue that such is not entirely possible. But aside from the fact that this would suggest even further that the preacher had malice aforethought in his premeditated action, the whole focus on 'religion' here completely overlooks every other consideration, and I wonder if it ever occurs to anybody the economic and other situations of these people?


Let's be realistic here.


Some people who live in dire poverty got their cage rattled and went on a rampage.

In the US where many people had nice homes and decent jobs, the worst war mongering demagogues got elected as President, solidly, for the last 30 years. We don't need to be violent ourselves, we just elect people to do the job for us. Quit asking how those very poor people got riled into violence, with the ultimate lameness of blaming it all on their religion. The better and more pertinent question is: why does a fat and happy country keep electing the most violent leaders?

So to answer your question; no, at least some who hold the Christian faith, in present time, do not react as violently as people who live in countries invaded by the West or attacked by Israel, just to put the otherwise misdirected question properly. But we want to lay it all on religion alone, right?

How convenient.


Let's have Saudi Arabia invade and take over the US, just to do something so stupid as logical extension. How much of the resistance to this should we keep as a purely secular matter, Butch?  No doubt, if any one resistance faction came forth from a Christian group, all the world would know that Christianity is an inherently violent religion, and people would be all over the internet with all these links to prove what hypocrites they are, and  how that religion is inherently more violent than others.







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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/10/2011 2:35:04 AM   
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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/10/2011 2:44:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Shall we start posting where families have been murdered by non Muslim husbands then ?

A simple search will show they far outnumber any honour killings.

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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/10/2011 2:53:23 AM   
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and BTW most mulims here support this 'father'

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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/10/2011 6:46:28 AM   
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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/10/2011 7:03:44 AM   
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unclean?? anyone or anything thats not muslim is unclean to those people, be it a dog, a Woman with a short skirt,

tell me did you submit to islam to?? did you forget 9/11??? we (my Family) lost someone on that day, you expect me to respect those animals???


I am sorry for you loss. But no, I didnt forget 9/11 but that was a terrorist attack. I dont blame all Muslims for the terror attacks in the Uk either, infact Muslims died in both attacks as I recall. Nor do I blame all Catholics and Protestants for the terror attacks in Ireland.

What gets me though is the constant dash to blame 1.5 billion Muslims for the actions of a few.



Does that mean gw bushco isnt looking for the evil ones anymore?

when governments are involved its call black ops, false flags and a few other names.







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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/10/2011 8:54:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here in St Louis we had an honor killing of a young girl by her father while her mother held her down...The reason... she was wearing a short skirt and dating a black man. ..The killing was caught on a 911 tape... she had tried to call the police and dropped the phone in the struggle...you could hear her beg for mercy as her father and mother stabbed her while reciting the Koran.

That said we have a white man...I don't know if he claims to be a Christian... killed his three children and wife... The reason... he wanted a new life with a mistress.

I would like to see all three dancing in the electric chair and it would piss me off if anyone tried to claim tradition for either killing as a mitigating circumstance.

I’ve heard no one wanting to show mercy to the white man. We did have people, not wanting to show mercy, but they did want us to understand how this honor killing was tradition in some parts of the world and we needed to understand his actions were not true murder…Yea right.

Barbaric is barbaric… I don’t care if in all the world there was one honor killing and thousands of men killing their families for other reasons…all need to be condemned and not mitigated by some archaic tradition.

Butch

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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/10/2011 6:12:04 PM   
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Our Neighbors!!!!

Yes, so-called honor killings are barbaric and criminal.  However, as a matter of historical perspective, not so long ago, these too were our neighbors.

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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/10/2011 6:23:30 PM   
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Murder/ suicides are never reported as being mormon or catholic or protestant or what the reason is ...
How many murders in jail have their religion described??
Unless they murder people within their own church or kill abortion doctors?






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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/11/2011 1:14:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kissheels
Our Neighbors!!!!

Yes, so-called honor killings are barbaric and criminal.  However, as a matter of historical perspective, not so long ago, these too were our neighbors.



yes this also was horrible and barbaric, but I am talking about 'fathers' killing their Daughters over islamic and koran 'laws'

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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/11/2011 6:59:52 AM   
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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/11/2011 7:50:19 AM   
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Yes,lets make sure the conversation is strictly limited to only those areas you wish to delve into.
That should work out well



is this not about the koran???? you can defend it til your blue in the face, do you to obey and live by their laws??

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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/11/2011 7:52:09 AM   
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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/11/2011 11:49:47 AM   
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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/11/2011 11:54:23 AM   
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