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Aneirin -> RE: France bans face covering veil (burqa) (4/12/2011 5:51:18 AM)
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For those interested in world costume, see here for excerpt from a nineteenth century book; ''Manners and Customs of the Modern Egyptians by E.W.Lane'', which describes Muslim attire from the time of the authors observation- 1850
And for the complete section in the book concerning costume see here
And for an online version of the complete book, see here
So, nineteenth century at least and maybe even further back in time the face covering was worn by Muslim women, the Victorians if anything, their collector mentality was good at recording information if not for their cultural analysis and judgement.
But just exactly what is wrong with Muslim women being covered up, what is it that get's your goat, is it a sign of difference, a sign of oppression, a reminder even, a reminder of the wars fought in foreign lands against the very people who choose to be so attired, or is it you just don't like it, being denied the lascivious thoughts you think is your right ?
Driving what do we employ in driving, the nose, the mouth, the hair or is it the eyes, yes the eyes from those parts we see, so naturally with traditional Muslim female attire the eyes are uncovered else they would always be walking into things never mind driving. And whilst such garments as over coats and mac's exist in Western attire, don't go on about how Muslim female dress can hide stuff. As for men in Muslim female attire to avoid detection sure the face may be covered, but have you noticed, women tend to have a different gait and that caused by their bodily difference, to the observant involved in security, well naturally one would think they new the differences, how a body moves beyond facial recognition.
France- Vive la liberte, I am surprised at, but at the same time not so surprised as France for a long time has been heading down the racist path with it's seeking those to blame for societies ills, just like some other countries in the West I suppose, so , they are not alone in that. I am just waitin to see which country follows France's lead now, who else is goin to stick their neck out and follow like a little puppy dog.
As to identity cards,driving licenses and such, (which are a form of Identity used in the UK for those that have them), well if there is a requirement for identity, then it makes no sense for the identifying image to show a covered face, for that is not the identity of a person, might be, but cannot be confirmed, so if the rule exists regards facial recognition, then it exists for all, no exceptions as anything else could be deemed discriminatory towards those who do not wear face veils.
Hijab, Burqa, Shayla, Al-Amira, Khimar, Chador, Niqab, they are all different and signify different things
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