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LadyPact -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 1:17:02 AM)

You don't need to invite her "in".  As far as I'm concerned, she's with Me anytime she feels like it.

Evidently, you missed what Bita and I both told you.  Maybe I missed it, but you didn't answer the OP's question either.  All you did was complain about the way other people answered it. 

As to the word "community" I'm thrilled with the evolution of the word, but I'm more in line with the traditional definition.



wittynamehere -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 1:17:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder
There is no "community". It's a bunch of people on a website..
If you're looking for community you might wanna think about turning off your computer.

I've almost never seen you make any sense, and this is no different. You should stop posting here.



GreedyTop -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 1:21:30 AM)

*blink*


ETA: *snuggles up to LadyP*



LadyPact -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 1:27:20 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: wittynamehere
I've almost never seen you make any sense, and this is no different. You should stop posting here.

Care for a stick?  It's much easier to stir shit with one.

Not everybody agrees with the premise of the internet is a community bit.  It's a website just like any other one.  Do you call yourself a member of the community for other electronic service providers?



MasterTygr -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 1:43:04 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: wittynamehere
I've almost never seen you make any sense, and this is no different. You should stop posting here.

Care for a stick?  It's much easier to stir shit with one.

Not everybody agrees with the premise of the internet is a community bit.  It's a website just like any other one.  Do you call yourself a member of the community for other electronic service providers?


Internet message boards:
Gaia Online
Neopets
CollarMe
4chan
D2jsp
IGN Boards
Otherkin
Yahoo


Online chat rooms:
Yahoo
IMVU
Chatroulette
AIM
MSN
Omegle

Virtual worlds:
ALL video games including computer, console even some handheld and cellular. Guild/clans, LAN parties, video game conventions


Social Network Services:
Facebook
Twitter
Myspace
Classmates
MyYearBook


All of these have internet communities. Do you call yourself a member of the community for other electronic service providers?  Yes, most of us are.



CherryNeko -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 1:45:18 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: wittynamehere

quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder
There is no "community". It's a bunch of people on a website..
If you're looking for community you might wanna think about turning off your computer.

I've almost never seen you make any sense, and this is no different. You should stop posting here.


You should shut your mouth.



MasterTygr -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 1:47:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CherryNeko


quote:

ORIGINAL: wittynamehere

I've almost never seen you make any sense, and this is no different. You should stop posting here.


You should shut your mouth.


Orrr...?

This is where you insert a threat that will convince us that we should fear you over the internet and that your simple comments will actually persuade us to listen to you.  Oh right, I just remembered...I'm in the comfort of my own home.  And there isn't a damn thing you can do!



CherryNeko -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 1:49:22 AM)

duh.



MasterTygr -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 1:54:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CherryNeko

duh.


That accurately sums up the complexity of pretty much all of the other debates I have contended with in this thread.



CherryNeko -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 1:56:30 AM)

debates. bullying. haha, that was so close to appearing to be serious... anyway, bye.



LadyPact -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 1:57:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterTygr
All of these have internet communities. Do you call yourself a member of the community for other electronic service providers?  Yes, most of us are.


This is actually better than the original of the thread.

I think you are misunderstanding the point.  I'm not saying people don't use the above services.  Obviously they do.  The question is, when exactly was the last time the phrase "I'm a member of the yahoo community" actually came out of your mouth? 

Sorry, but I just find the premise silly.  Very much the same as I do that folks think that just because they create an account here, they expect other members of the website to have some kind of vested interest in them. 




MasterTygr -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 2:12:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

This is actually better than the original of the thread.

I think you are misunderstanding the point.  I'm not saying people don't use the above services.  Obviously they do.  The question is, when exactly was the last time the phrase "I'm a member of the yahoo community" actually came out of your mouth? 

Sorry, but I just find the premise silly.  Very much the same as I do that folks think that just because they create an account here, they expect other members of the website to have some kind of vested interest in them. 



The word community does not have to be spoken in order for the community to exist.  By not speaking the specific word 'community' that does not make the actual community suddenly nonexistent.  Facebook will not disappear if we don't refer to it as the Facebook community.  However, it is still there.  No one is saying the specific word 'community' though.  But it is still there...I can reiterate if you wish.  Although just because it isn't popular to say the word 'community' to describe every situation that includes a community, that does not mean it is prohibited.  To say the word 'community'...to describe a community.  Perhaps I can reiterate s'more? I chose, during my debut to cm forums, to say it.  The word 'community'. *shrug*  It applied.  It still applies.  It will for quite some time more.

I'm sure other people out there at some time in their existence used the word 'community' to describe a social online entity.  I am one of them!  I don't feel that it is a very interesting debate to continue going over why or why not I chose to use which vocabulary to describe which situations.

Very much the same as I do that folks think that just because they create an account here, they expect other members of the website to have some kind of vested interest in them.

If this final sentence has any reference to me, read back a few pages on this thread and look at all the interest.  Then go to my profile and talk to kitten.  That's where all the vested interest I will ever need comes from



LadyPact -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 2:26:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterTygr
The word community does not have to be spoken in order for the community to exist.  By not speaking the specific word 'community' that does not make the actual community suddenly nonexistent.  Facebook will not disappear if we don't refer to it as the Facebook community.  However, it is still there.  No one is saying the specific word 'community' though.  But it is still there...I can reiterate if you wish.  Although just because it isn't popular to say the word 'community' to describe every situation that includes a community, that does not mean it is prohibited.  To say the word 'community'...to describe a community.  Perhaps I can reiterate s'more? I chose, during my debut to cm forums, to say it.  The word 'community'. *shrug*  It applied.  It still applies.  It will for quite some time more.

I'm sure other people out there at some time in their existence used the word 'community' to describe a social online entity.  I am one of them!  I don't feel that it is a very interesting debate to continue going over why or why not I chose to use which vocabulary to describe which situations.

If this final sentence has any reference to me, read back a few pages on this thread and look at all the interest.  Then go to my profile and talk to kitten.  That's where all the vested interest I will ever need comes from

The last sentence is an attempt to tie the discussion to the original.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on the subject.  I'm just not the type to take on the least common definition of a word or one that has only come to be the definition of a word in the last twenty years as all that much in worth.  Maybe next time, we can debate the word "boi" and you can tell Me how it belongs to the skater dudes.



GeekMistress -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 2:28:37 AM)

He'll just say "c u l8r, boi". :-D



sunshinemiss -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 3:37:06 AM)

To the OP:

Anyone can post on any thread. As you see, many of the women (D/s - doesn't matter) are posting on Ask A Master. Same is true in the reverse on Ask a Mistress. You needn't double post. We all read whatever we want, we respond as we wish - and where, and you will find that folks are pretty clear about what they do and don't care about.

Now... my grandma always said there was a lid for every pot. I suppose that could be true.

However, here is where the rubber hits the road, shall we say. I find that the posters of CM are a pretty with-it bunch. You find that all/most of us have been through the university of Hard Knocks a time or two, and we generally do not suffer fools. Nor do the regular posters generally care on this board to discuss private, intimate details with someone we are not private / intimate with. That is simply the norms of this board. They have changed over time, but currently, that's generally how it is.

My sense - and that of others, if I'm reading their posts correctly - is that you have come on here to get humiliated or to gather wank fodder. You want other people to tell you how X / Y / Z you are. Or perhaps you want people to titilate you with scenarios. Well, as far as I can tell, no one has agreed to be in that kind of dynamic with you. It is why you are getting the reception you are getting. Also, you are breaking the rules - no cross posting. Finally, some people tend to find it offensive that a person views people as merely an extension of their genitals. That you view a person (yourself) in this way does not intrigue many of us. It lets us know that you don't have the depth of character and integrity and personal identity to be in the circle of friends that we would consider our own.

To Lady Pact and Tyger and everyone:
I do in fact consider this a community. As most know, there is not a lot of a real life community in my world, and this forum does fill a need for me at times - the need for human connection. I have met over 80 people from this website. I have phone numbers. A number of the people here have become part of my inner circle. First we were online buddies, then online friends, then we talked on the phone and met in real life, then we got closer. At what point did they become a part of my community? I don't know how to answer that exactly, but I tend to think it was during the "online" stage.

I may be different in that I consider my computer / the internet much more than many people do - it's my television, my radio, my photo album, my work station, my telephone, my dance instructor, my yoga instructor, the keeper of my secrets, and my alarm clock. Perhaps I am on a more intimate basis with my computer / the internet than others are. It is a tool, it is my right hand.

I have a broad enough definition of community to know that there are people I've never met who I consider in my corner, and I for them. To me this is some part of "community" . It works in my world. I don't expect my definition to mesh with the definitions of others, but to me it is a community, in many ways MY community.

Best,
sunshine



LadyPact -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 4:26:28 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss
To Lady Pact and Tyger and everyone:
I do in fact consider this a community. As most know, there is not a lot of a real life community in my world, and this forum does fill a need for me at times - the need for human connection. I have met over 80 people from this website. I have phone numbers. A number of the people here have become part of my inner circle. First we were online buddies, then online friends, then we talked on the phone and met in real life, then we got closer. At what point did they become a part of my community? I don't know how to answer that exactly, but I tend to think it was during the "online" stage.

I may be different in that I consider my computer / the internet much more than many people do - it's my television, my radio, my photo album, my work station, my telephone, my dance instructor, my yoga instructor, the keeper of my secrets, and my alarm clock. Perhaps I am on a more intimate basis with my computer / the internet than others are. It is a tool, it is my right hand.

I have a broad enough definition of community to know that there are people I've never met who I consider in my corner, and I for them. To me this is some part of "community" . It works in my world. I don't expect my definition to mesh with the definitions of others, but to me it is a community, in many ways MY community.

Best,
sunshine

You have fair points in your post, sunshine.  As things have transpired, I can completely understand your position.

At the same time, it is still about transition.  Why is it that the certain folks who have been able to be connected with you been able to do so?  Was it because they created an account?  At this time, there are 173 members logged on and 623 guests.  Do you feel the same about all of them just because they signed on?

You said it yourself.  It's a tool.  How people use said tool is completely up to them.  Some sense of entitlement just because they decided to use it?  No.

As you know, I prioritize My connections with others.  Family first.  Beyond doubt.  Friends next.  Casual acquaintances/business associates.  People who interact with My world.  The country.  Then the planet.  Random wanker dude is very far down on My list.



sunshinemiss -> What is a community? (4/13/2011 5:29:55 AM)

An interesting question. Let's see if i can pull it apart and be coherent. I may need a glass of wine to have the fortitude for clarity.

First, I'd like to clarify - the COMPUTER and the INTERNET are tools. This forum, these boards are different (to me) than those. I've been to chat rooms - for a number of topics - and I consistently come back here. So for better or worse, this Collarchat is in a different category.

As far as the random strangers... Well... I work in a university. I know a LOT of the teachers and many of the students. There are however, many more that I don't know. That is a community. Are the people I don't know also part of that community? The students who are enrolled, the other teachers, the administrative staff, the janitors, the man who runs the coffee shop, the folks in the post office who send off my postcards - they are part of the community to me. In that, I am not relevant except as the one who is answering the question and as one of the professors.

The people who come to take continuing education classes for a three week time period - they are temporary members of the community.

A random person who comes onto campus? Someone who brings the newspapers, a delivery man bringing lunch to the secretaries, the bus driver who has a stop on campus, the telephone repair person - they don't have a place in the community as far as I am concerned. They are not engaged in it. They are visitors. To me, they are not part of the community because they don't really interact except on a shallow level.

How that relates to CM / CC - The regular posters are in the community. They (we?) have a regular pattern in our lives that includes this forum. Even the members who are up in the rafters, just reading are members of the community - they are like the students that I don't know but are regularly around. Perhaps they are not invested in the same way as I am, but yes, they are still a part of the community to me. Guests are not - they are like the delivery people... zoom in, zoom out... no real interaction, no real investment.

The question that then arose for me in answering your post was... well then when does a guest / someone new become a member of the community by my definition. I'm not sure I can answer that. In fact, I went back and looked at the post I made awhile back about the Book Club. It seemed a similar kind of question came up for me at that point although we didn't discuss it directly. At some point, they show they are invested somehow. How they do that? I don't know. It's not number of posts to me. It's not how many friends are on their CM friends list. It's got something to do with interaction although I don't think I can totally put my finger on it.

Why have some people been able to connect with others (I broadened your question so that it isn't just about ME because there are a couple of people on the boards whose viewpoints are not my cup of tea, but they are still members of the community.)? They are invested in the people / stories / interactions here.

Yes, I'm with you about the random dude as well. :) I occasionally get notes from people just because of where I am. It has nothing to do with who I am. To me they are random dudes. I owe them nothing more than my morals, ethics, integrity call upon me to share. They are not part of my community. Even the people on CM are not in this community to me unless somehow they have invested in the people / stories / interactions (I'm including people in the chat rooms for example.). I think it's about the connection amongst people. That is where the "community" is woven together to me.

As an aside - and purely rhetorically - I imagine I am not the only person looking at your pyramid and wondering "Where am I on that list?" I appreciate your list. In fact it gives me pause because being so far away from most of the people that i love, my grouping is closer to an oval rather than a pyramid. There are very very few people who I would consider "close to me". I envy you that. For me I suppose it is the circumstances of geography although I take responsibility for having chosen the path I walk.

Finally (yes, at last she gets to finally!) it is always a pleasure to interact with you like this in more depth. I believe if we were geographically closer, we'd be having laughter, walks, dinner, and the occasional wink. :) It has been my honored experience to meet so many people on this site and to have found great joy, laughter, hugs, and stimulating conversation with them. I am truly blessed to call a number of the people on here my friends, my soul sisters.

Best,
sunshine



ranja -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 6:18:24 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

to the OP:

My sense - and that of others, if I'm reading their posts correctly - is that you have come on here to get humiliated or to gather wank fodder. You want other people to tell you how X / Y / Z you are. Or perhaps you want people to titilate you with scenarios. Well, as far as I can tell, no one has agreed to be in that kind of dynamic with you. It is why you are getting the reception you are getting. Also, you are breaking the rules - no cross posting. Finally, some people tend to find it offencive that a person views people as merely an extension of their genitals. That you view a person (yourself) in this way does not intrigue many of us. It lets us know that you don't have the depth of character and integrity and personal identity to be in the circle of friends that we would consider our own.

sunshine


bloody hell, the OP has made what? 7 posts, slight mistake of cross posting 'cos he's new, is interested to know if him being fat with a tiny dick is a problem and so you think he is too... what? too shallow and too banal to be in our circle of friends? and i suppose 'our circle of friends' is this community that we are a member of?

This is a dating site, if the man wants to know if him being fat with a tiny dick is a problem then this forum is a perfectly good place to ask this question... obviously he will get a lot of ridiculous answers as there are many many ridiculous people here

OP: being fat with a tiny dick does not need to be a problem... but it might be if the partner you desire prefers a skinny guy with a big dick...
good luck



LafayetteLady -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 8:37:49 AM)

~FAST REPLY~

Sunshinemiss:
Very well put. I believe somehwere amongst all the CM babble of terms is the word "community." Regardless, how people choose to refer to their interactions on this site seems hardly worth discussion.

LadyPact:
I have and always will look forward to your posts. They are typically the voice of reason amidst the cackle of snarkyness (sp?) that pervades these boards. Your responses here therefore are surprising, and historically beneath you.

So the term "community" being applied to anything on the internet is only 20 years old. Well, that's also approximately how old the internet is. How many other words have definitions that are recent? "Surfing" comes quickly to mind. Twenty years ago "surfing" meant didn't mean what it does. I could probably come up with hundreds of other words that didn't exist until recently in the mannerr they do today. Again, i find the whole thing not worthy of discussion. To me it falls in the same category as the upper/lower case typing common to the BDSM internet, to each their own.

As to the OP...perhaps I am seeing your post differently than others. As someone who only joined yesterday, I took your post as a search for others to give you hope that even someone with your "situation" could still find someone who wanted them. If you read between all the other nonsense, I hope you saw that there is indeed hope for you to find that special person for you.

In regards to the cross posting, I can't help but wonder why it was ok for Northerngent to cross post his "Justice or Mercy" post without anyone mentioning it or one of the posts being quickly removed.



sunshinemiss -> RE: Subs with small, dysfunctional cocks. (4/13/2011 9:12:06 AM)

Hello Lafayette,
I'd like to respond to a couple of points you made (your points are italicized):

Very well put. I believe somehwere amongst all the CM babble of terms is the word "community." Regardless, how people choose to refer to their interactions on this site seems hardly worth discussion.

I think it is fascinating to see how other people view common words / experiences. Even if the discussion is merely an intellectual exercise, it is worthy of conversation for me. In fact I've stayed out of that whole "community" hornet's nest for the most part until now. I wasn't anything close to clear, but now ... I'm closer.

As to the OP...perhaps I am seeing your post differently than others. As someone who only joined yesterday, I took your post as a search for others to give you hope that even someone with your "situation" could still find someone who wanted them. If you read between all the other nonsense, I hope you saw that there is indeed hope for you to find that special person for you.

I had not thought of it in this way and appreciate you pointing it out. If that is in fact the case here, then I was mistaken. I suppose I would chalk it up to a certain amount of cynicism after soooooooooo many "humiliate my small package" kinds of threads.

best,
sunshine



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