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sunshinemiss -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 6:42:42 AM)
Sounds like I'm gonna be busy if Domi gets his wish... Ah the sacrifice...

porcelaine -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 7:13:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi Well as long as she is sitting there, perhaps you could ask her a question. How would she feel if she saw a cute white boy in the park and approached him. They started talking and seemed to hit it off. Then his mother walks over grabs his arm and drags him away. Later she finds out that although the guy really like her, his mother doesn't allow him to date blacks. Nothing racist about that is there? I bet it makes you both feel all warm and fuzzy to know his mother is looking out for her sons best interest right? my daughter has no desire to date Asian men because she understands the realities of doing so. Something you and others have a hard time wrapping your mind around. You assume i'm controlling her because our way of being is not acceptable in your lifestyle. Yet you're unable to pinpoint why it is our norm mainly due to nondisclosure on my part because it's really none of your business. The idea of explaining myself in this manner to a stranger is the antithesis of how i was raised. That too is cultural. You don't deserve to know because you're not involved. i'm referencing the general 'you' in this case. As for your comment, that too is a stereotype and you assume by referencing ethnicity i'd see your point of view. Would the truth surprise you? i think it might. Do you believe the subject is a hot button topic for all persons of color because everyone has experienced xyz? But since you asked, no, she won't take offense because she understands that mentality. Not the racism you're suggesting, but duty and restriction. But more than this, that example goes into something bigger that is part of her conditioning. And that relates to walking into situations that are wholesome where her worth is valued and respected. So even if she liked the boy and they hit it off, if his parents found her unacceptable she'd step back. Why? Because that way of thinking is very difficult to change and she'd be left with an uphill battle. She's aware that for some interracial dating is not acceptable very much like there are people who refuse to date or marry outside of their socioeconomic class. Just because those truths are not part of your reality doesn't diminish them for someone else. This constant need to be individual yet seemingly the same is so nauseating. We're really not. Case in point. Your manner of speech in demanding a response is viewed as pushy, rude, and ill bred in my world. No one that i associate with (and grew up with) would ever be that forceful regarding someone's private life. Especially if it didn't concern you. However, when i communicate in this medium i simply chalk it up to difference. And the mere fact you keep insisting that she will go against the grain in some fit of rebellion and foist behaviors that are not part of constitution into the conversation as if everyone thinks this way is baffling. While i have heard the idea promoted on many instances that if "my family can't do this or that screw them" we don't act like that. She isn't controlled, brainwashed, or anything some have suggested. We value different things and live according to principles that you don't understand nor desire. And why that has caused such an uproar is astounding. Namaste, ~porcelaine

DesFIP -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 7:17:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania Preference is saying you like tall men... prejudice is when you assume that short men have Napoleon Complexes and are trying to compensate for their lack of stature, and then you stereotype all short men based upon this prejudgment. No, that's experience when I say I've never known a short man who hasn't tried to compensate for it with undesirable, bullying behaviors. That's my life experience talking from all the short men I've known who have acted that way. I'm not saying that somewhere there isn't a short guy who doesn't act like that, I'm saying that in 56 years I've never met one, and thus I don't feel like it's worth my while to meet dozens of them hoping maybe one will be the exception to the rule. My experience is that short men act in ways I find unappealing and because of that, I have developed an attraction to tall men instead. I'm 5'3", any guy over 5'6" is way taller than me. It's a result of knowing all those short guys who acted unpleasantly that I only am attracted to guys over 6'. You've got cause and effect mixed up. I wasn't born disliking short guys. I wasn't taught to do so. The common Napoleon Complex that so many of them have is what taught me to find them unattractive. Their own actions taught me to dislike them. I don't know too many Asian guys so I can't speak about them. But I've known a lot of South Americans with that damned macho attitude and I would strongly discourage my daughter from getting involved with one. I want her to be treated better than that. Should she bring such a guy home, I would take exception to his ways and point out every instance to her of his mistreatment of her. This isn't me being prejudiced. It's me having sufficient experience to not want anything this bad for her. In exactly the same way that Dr. Spock became antiwar after seeing all those children he had cared about die needlessly, so is me wanting the best for a child I have cared for all her life. And being mistreated by an insular belief that men do deserve to do whatever they want, no matter the effect on a woman they claim to protect does not accord with her having a chance at happiness. Prejudice would be me refusing to rent a house to a South American man.

sunshinemiss -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 7:32:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP I don't know too many Asian guys so I can't speak about them. But I've known a lot of South Americans with that damned macho attitude and I would strongly discourage my daughter from getting involved with one. I want her to be treated better than that. Should she bring such a guy home, I would take exception to his ways and point out every instance to her of his mistreatment of her. Hi Celeste - I loved this. I loved it because I adore So. American men for the very reason you hate them! laughs. I love the macho attitude. I always loved being a tough, strong woman with them, and the fireworks that ensued. I've not been treated in a way I would consider "bad" by them although I'm sure you would consider it such. Some of the expats have been having a conversation here about (interestingly) Asian women with waygook men. The not very manly-men say that they get to feel very masculine because the Asian women are ultra feminine. Many of the independent, gringa women I know say that we get to feel very feminine because the Latino men are ultra masculine. It's an interesting viewpoint. Thank you for the chuckle. best, sunshine

juliaoceania -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 7:36:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania Preference is saying you like tall men... prejudice is when you assume that short men have Napoleon Complexes and are trying to compensate for their lack of stature, and then you stereotype all short men based upon this prejudgment. No, that's experience when I say I've never known a short man who hasn't tried to compensate for it with undesirable, bullying behaviors. That's my life experience talking from all the short men I've known who have acted that way. I'm not saying that somewhere there isn't a short guy who doesn't act like that, I'm saying that in 56 years I've never met one, and thus I don't feel like it's worth my while to meet dozens of them hoping maybe one will be the exception to the rule. My experience is that short men act in ways I find unappealing and because of that, I have developed an attraction to tall men instead. I'm 5'3", any guy over 5'6" is way taller than me. It's a result of knowing all those short guys who acted unpleasantly that I only am attracted to guys over 6'. You've got cause and effect mixed up. I wasn't born disliking short guys. I wasn't taught to do so. The common Napoleon Complex that so many of them have is what taught me to find them unattractive. Their own actions taught me to dislike them. I don't know too many Asian guys so I can't speak about them. But I've known a lot of South Americans with that damned macho attitude and I would strongly discourage my daughter from getting involved with one. I want her to be treated better than that. Should she bring such a guy home, I would take exception to his ways and point out every instance to her of his mistreatment of her. This isn't me being prejudiced. It's me having sufficient experience to not want anything this bad for her. In exactly the same way that Dr. Spock became antiwar after seeing all those children he had cared about die needlessly, so is me wanting the best for a child I have cared for all her life. And being mistreated by an insular belief that men do deserve to do whatever they want, no matter the effect on a woman they claim to protect does not accord with her having a chance at happiness. Prejudice would be me refusing to rent a house to a South American man. I have known many extraordinarily nice short men. I find it rather sad that you have decided that as a group of humanity they need to be prejudged. This says more about you than it does about them..

DesFIP -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 7:42:46 AM)
Or perhaps just my misfortune in never meeting any of the extraordinarily nice ones. But I will admit that since most of the ones I've met were South American, and started out with an attitude I found unpleasant, it perhaps cemented my dislike of them early on.

porcelaine -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 7:44:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss There IS a reality about certain cultures. I don't mind warnign naive, younger people about them. My grandfather and grandmother told me that "boys are after only one thing." Is that sexist? I don't think so. This is the same way I see porcelaine's discussion with her daughter. Do I know this to be fact? No. (and please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, porcelaine). Your comments concerning culture apply to both ends and my remarks are a reflection of these things when referencing her. i'm aware of the things she can accept and those she would abhor. That doesn't imply that changes cannot ensue, but our framework generally has a few things that stay put. Much like your remarks about Anna and the King, which i loved. At the end of the day she maintains certain principles because they've been well ingrained. Now, given my appreciation for the culture and it's spiritual principles, it isn't surprising that she would gravitate in that direction. She received a double dose of this from both parents. However, as i previously noted, to expect the individual to be in possession of the identical values she has and then denounce him if he doesn't is not acceptable. If she chooses to walk a path she must go in with her eyes open to prevent the proverbial "i didn't know" excuse later on. my support is unwavering but she must own her mistakes. quote: I daresay that were porcelaine's daughter to show up at the door with an Asian boyfriend, she would be gracious and kind and accepting. I expect she knows her daughter well enough to trust her judgment, to know she had considered a number of factors (including cultural differences) before deciding to embark on what truly can be a difficult reality. I also expect that porcelaine would see the PERSON and not the RACE. Expressing rudeness toward a guest in my home is unthinkable. i may not agree but when the party is in my environment they're made to feel welcome. my discomfort is related to the 'difficult reality' noted and the never-ending challenges many have when crossing cultural and racial lines. It is far from a cakewalk for most that engage. Namaste, ~porcelaine

porcelaine -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 8:01:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss It's interesting to see that you are focusing on one person and not the topic. I've asked some pretty pointed questions, made a number of observations about culture, given examples, and yet you just want to hound one woman about her relationship with her daughter. I suppose it's easier to do that than it is to address an actual issue. i've got to admit this is one bizarre discussion. But perhaps it will offer a wonderful opportunity to uncover a bodyguard. [:D] Namaste, ~porcelaine

RapierFugue -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 8:04:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss My grandfather and grandmother told me that "boys are after only one thing." Is it football? I bet it's football.

juliaoceania -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 8:08:25 AM)
fast reply I have worked with people from literally all over the world. I have lived next to others that hail from distant land. I have dated a couple of men that were not wonder bread white. I came from a place that was racist, backwards, and isolated. Saying my environment was homogeneous is an understatement. Perhaps it is my lack of exposure to people from other places for the first part of my life that caused me to be open minded. I cannot for the life of me understand what is so "hard" about navigating cultural difference, other than people having small minds, small hearts, and low tolerance. In my opinion many posts on this thread should be scrubbed because they are racially inflammatory, and supposedly this site doesn't tolerate that. I have to say there is more than one person on here that I used to enjoy reading whom I will probably pass by in the future. It is is one thing to be racist, it is another to be prejudiced, but the worst of all is the bigot, because they have no desire to overcome their prejudices built on stereotypes. We tend to find what we look for, and when we look for differences between ourselves and others, we usually find them. When we look for those differences to be negative and to confirm our prejudices, that is what we will see. This is the hallmark of the closed mind. About 10 years ago, my most favorite and beloved uncle sat in my house and casually threw out the N words as if it were the most natural thing to do. I could never remember him talking like that when I was younger, but here this man sat, saying the most nasty things he could about other human beings. He had spoiled me as a kid. Took me to amusement parks, bought me treats, and gave me money.... and I did not know how to handle his blantant racism and bigotry. I sat there with my mouth open and said nothing. When he left I felt dirty and guilty I hadn't kicked him out. I never talked to him again...I vowed I would never overlook racism, prejudice, and bigotry again. I have even called my brother on it when he told me all New York Jews were mean, loud, and cheap. He wouldn't talk to me for a few months because I told him that was a racist attitude. I am not going to end racism, but I sure as hell won't pretend that people aren't displaying it when they most obviously are... especially when they are doing so proudly.

sunshinemiss -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 8:15:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: porcelaine my discomfort is related to the 'difficult reality' noted and the never-ending challenges many have when crossing cultural and racial lines. It is far from a cakewalk for most that engage. Hello porcelaine, Having been in a couple of biracial relationships, I must say I concur with this. The one deeply serious relationship I had was with a man of a different race. Cultural differences were an important factor in that break up. But love does tend to color one's view. We did run into a certain amount of "difficult reality" while together - we were obviously not of the same race and did experience actual racism. But again love... There was no hope for it. I was head over heels in love - as was he. Today, should I fall in love with a person of another culture or race, I would be a good bit more knowledgeable and aware of the reality of loving someone who comes from a different world than my own. Of course, that intersection of two cultures, two different ways of looking at the world is the place where I feel the most alive and passionate. It makes me shimmer and vibrate with the energy of life. (Waxing poetic, I know, but it's how I feel). For me, that is not about race, it's about culture. Perhaps this is why I can stay in a place that is such a challenge for me, in which I feel I must put aside a part of my personality - there is still so much that feeds my soul despite the difficulties. Best wishes to you and yours, sunshine

sunshinemiss -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 8:30:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania I cannot for the life of me understand what is so "hard" about navigating cultural difference, other than people having small minds, small hearts, and low tolerance. Julia - I would dare say that there is a difference between being the person who travels to a new land and the one who interacts as a member of the majority group. In fact, I know it is different. Also, what is hard? Is that what you don't understand? Mindbogglingly, I don't even know where to begin with that. Everything is different! EVERYTHING. The way you talk, the way you eat, what you eat, when you sleep, how quickly you move, when you leave, what time you go to bed, how to get to places, how much money is needed for what, the sounds you hear, the things you smell, what you drink, the music, the way people laugh, what clothes are acceptable, which words do you use, who do you listen to first, what colors can you wear, when to stand up and when to sit down, how do you greet someone, can you look at them, who do you look at first, how warm will the room be... and on and on. And THIS is just off the top of my head. I have never heard anyone who was involved with someone of another culture, intimately involved, or someone who lived in another culture for an extended period ever say that it was not difficult. I hear people say it is wonderful, it is worthwhile, it is challenging, and it is joyous.... but in the end, underneath, it is also difficult. Frankly, WE are the ones who have put our money where our mouths are. WE have uprooted our lives. WE have faced the oppression day in and day out. WE have made the commitment to live within something COMPLETLY different. WE have put in the sweat equity to be able to say what we say. WE are the ones who face a myriad of slights EVERY SINGLE DAY and STILL love and live within a different world. And we do it with dignity and great respect for the world that we share that is so very different than our own. For others to come in and tell us our viewpoints based on ACTUAL 24 HOUR A DAY, 365 DAYS A YEAR experience is racist is naive at best. WE have lived it. It's easy to be judgmental about us from way over there. I've been doing this for about 5 years. Come live here with me for just 3 months. Then tell me I'm racist. I dare you. sunshine

sunshinemiss -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 8:35:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RapierFugue quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss My grandfather and grandmother told me that "boys are after only one thing." Is it football? I bet it's football. Yep, that was exactly what it was. Although we called it "going to town" rather than "playing football" which evidently is a British thing. [8\|] [:)]

sunshinemiss -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 9:01:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania We tend to find what we look for, and when we look for differences between ourselves and others, we usually find them. Hello Julia - I also wanted to say something about this. In my classes, I focus on what you are saying here. I help people find the similarities between us - between waygooks and Koreans (or So. Americans or Arabs, or whomever I am teaching). We all want to be loved, we all want to be accepted and appreciated, we all want to feel we are doing something worthwhile, we all want to be visible. These are universal! And for that reason, I focus on them as much as possible. However, we also explore the tremendous misunderstandings that differences in culture can bring about. Even something as simple as the difference between "yes" and "no", something I take for granted - yes means yes, and no means no is something we discuss. In some cultures it is terribly insulting to say "no"... ever. In other cultures, one doesn't say "yes." In still others, to be ambiguous is the insult. One can be aware of and acknowledge differences, acknowledge cultural realities while still maintaining one's identity and "brotherhood" (for lack of a better word) within the human race. It reminds me of an exercise I did years ago. It was a multicultural exercise. I was paired with a black, Muslim man. I'm a white spiritual woman. We were supposed to find some simliarities between us. Here is our list as I recall: I want me and my loved ones to be safe. I want to give and recieve love. I want to make the world a better place. I want to live with integrity. The facilitator came to us and said, "well the two of you certainly understand the exercise. Carry on." As you say, it is easy to see the differences if you look for them, and it is easy to see the similarities. At the same time, I would be insulting that man if I pretended to know what it is like to be a black man who lived with profiling as part of his day to day life. So, too if he pretended to know what it was like to have fear of being raped when your date gets a little too drunk. It is living with reality, despite our wishes for Utopia, that can be difficult. Well wishes, sunshine

rockspider -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 9:10:39 AM)
I do find it an amusing question. It is like saying would you date an american and in that definition take in anybody from Tierra Del Fuego and up to the tip of Alaska and thereby lump them all in the same basket. From extensive travel I can only say Asia has a bigger cultural and racial span than the afore mentioned population and i even think the geographical distance is greater. The actual landmass it covers is certainly much greater.

porcelaine -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 9:14:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss Having been in a couple of biracial relationships, I must say I concur with this. The one deeply serious relationship I had was with a man of a different race. Cultural differences were an important factor in that break up. But love does tend to color one's view. We did run into a certain amount of "difficult reality" while together - we were obviously not of the same race and did experience actual racism. But again love... There was no hope for it. I was head over heels in love - as was he. Greetings sunshine, i participate in a group on another site that is dedicated to persons who seek partners outside of their ethnicity. i don't comment very often because our realities are different and my perspective won't always be of assistance for them. But nonetheless i empathize. The struggles and emotional unrest they experience makes me sad. On the one hand, they're frustrated and long for acceptance; but in another respect they refuse to accept the consequences of walking that path. i am not suggesting that one should be treated poorly. However, as with most things there are positive and negative ramifications and when one elects to enter those waters you must be cognizant of both and weigh them out before taking the plunge. At least that's my approach. quote: For me, that is not about race, it's about culture. Perhaps this is why I can stay in a place that is such a challenge for me, in which I feel I must put aside a part of my personality - there is still so much that feeds my soul despite the difficulties. It often boils down to cultural differences and those are the nuances the women i mentioned are having the greatest challenges overcoming. Their experiences thus far (and i'm speaking of the whole of their person including upbringing) may be in opposition to what they're encountering at present. This doesn't make them judgmental or suggest they think it's bad in a negative way. But if you've never been prepared for these things or have been led to believe the world is one way and discover that philosophy doesn't hold true for everyone; you adjust, refute, or try to make sense of it all if possible. As you've mentioned, in matters of the heart this gets a little complicated. Although i haven't shared the same experiences as the women in the group and our backgrounds are very different, i still offer support and a word of advice when appropriate. However, i won't do that to to point of suggesting everyone's situation will be like mine. That's unfair in my opinion. It's unrealistic for me to expect them to see through my lenses if they've never walked in the shoes that accompany them. And in the same respect, i accept the hardships they speak of are real even if i lack direct exposure in my own relationships. The intersection you mentioned earlier is one of the reasons i choose to participate. i found it difficult in the past because the differences were too glaring and typified things i have no interest in portraying. Nevertheless i've given it a go and i'm enjoying it thus far. Our stories are never identical, but in those opposites much can be learned. However, i won't negate their uniqueness in the process of acknowledging our similarities. Both are equally important. quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss For others to come in and tell us our viewpoints based on ACTUAL 24 HOUR A DAY, 365 DAYS A YEAR experience is racist is naive at best. WE have lived it. It's easy to be judgmental about us from way over there. I've been doing this for about 5 years. Come live here with me for just 3 months. Then tell me I'm racist. Well said! [;)] i've dated Caucasian men (and women) for twenty years and i wouldn't change a thing. But i don't denounce other people who refuse to entertain those behaviors. It's a matter of choice and they're entitled to decide what is right for them. i would never consider them racist if they sincerely felt they should stick with their own. Nor would i believe the same if they had no interest in every ethnicity imaginable. The suggestion that an individually must be entirely homogeneous in their mate selection practices is pretty far fetched. Namaste, ~porcelaine

thishereboi -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 9:46:10 AM)
I don't think you are controlling her. I think you have raised her to believe that all asian men are the same and not worth wasting the time to get to know. And your statement that "my daughter has no desire to date Asian men because she understands the realities of doing so." tells me I am right about this. Now it is certainly your business if this is how you want to raise your kids, but don't get all shocked when people point out that it is a racist attitude.

thishereboi -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 9:49:21 AM)
quote: And the mere fact you keep insisting that she will go against the grain in some fit of rebellion and foist behaviors that are not part of constitution into the conversation as if everyone thinks this way is baffling. I never insisted she would, I just asked what you would do if she did. However since you brought it up, I did know a girl in Florida who forbid her daughter to date Hispanics. Last time I saw her, she had 2 grand babies. One Cuban and one Mexican. Of course her daughter was only 22 at the time, so she may have more now.

porcelaine -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 10:34:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi I don't think you are controlling her. I think you have raised her to believe that all asian men are the same and not worth wasting the time to get to know. And your statement that "my daughter has no desire to date Asian men because she understands the realities of doing so." tells me I am right about this. And you need to be right of course because it is impossible for you to grasp that your way of being is not similar to mine and should we differ it suggests that someone is out of step. And if an individual has no attraction or desire to become romantically involved with another ethnicity what do you call them? Are they unenlightened people that aren't giving others a fair shake or simply exercising a preference instead? Namaste, ~porcelaine

Aynne88 -> RE: will a sub/slave girl choose Asian master/dom? (4/23/2011 2:26:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania I cannot for the life of me understand what is so "hard" about navigating cultural difference, other than people having small minds, small hearts, and low tolerance. Julia - I would dare say that there is a difference between being the person who travels to a new land and the one who interacts as a member of the majority group. In fact, I know it is different. Also, what is hard? Is that what you don't understand? Mindbogglingly, I don't even know where to begin with that. Everything is different! EVERYTHING. The way you talk, the way you eat, what you eat, when you sleep, how quickly you move, when you leave, what time you go to bed, how to get to places, how much money is needed for what, the sounds you hear, the things you smell, what you drink, the music, the way people laugh, what clothes are acceptable, which words do you use, who do you listen to first, what colors can you wear, when to stand up and when to sit down, how do you greet someone, can you look at them, who do you look at first, how warm will the room be... and on and on. And THIS is just off the top of my head. I have never heard anyone who was involved with someone of another culture, intimately involved, or someone who lived in another culture for an extended period ever say that it was not difficult. I hear people say it is wonderful, it is worthwhile, it is challenging, and it is joyous.... but in the end, underneath, it is also difficult. Frankly, WE are the ones who have put our money where our mouths are. WE have uprooted our lives. WE have faced the oppression day in and day out. WE have made the commitment to live within something COMPLETLY different. WE have put in the sweat equity to be able to say what we say. WE are the ones who face a myriad of slights EVERY SINGLE DAY and STILL love and live within a different world. And we do it with dignity and great respect for the world that we share that is so very different than our own. For others to come in and tell us our viewpoints based on ACTUAL 24 HOUR A DAY, 365 DAYS A YEAR experience is racist is naive at best. WE have lived it. It's easy to be judgmental about us from way over there. I've been doing this for about 5 years. Come live here with me for just 3 months. Then tell me I'm racist. I dare you. sunshine Oh my god Julia..that is mindboggling that someone as bright as you would even say that. Seriously you think that? Wow... Every single thing sunshinemiss said is so true, that if you choose to not see it, you choose to ignore the truth. When Jim goes back to Korea they have a term for people like him, it basically means "banana." It's derogatory for someone that is "yellow on the outside, white on the inside." He is too white now, having been here for too long. His own countrymen insult his life choices, and here he gets stared at non stop as an outsider. Koreans are a strict and rigid people and they are not tolerant in a lot of instances, and yes it is a widespread cultural thing, not some racist viewpoint. Korean men are difficult, they are exact and demanding to the nth degree, and they aren't exactly fans of the multi-culti stuff you are espousing Julia. Like sunshine said, SHE is the one doing the hard work here, so it's easy to sit here in America and scoff at the trials of living in such a foreign country with a culture that is so extreme.

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