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perceptions - 5/9/2006 12:20:27 PM

thegreymistress

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This is my first thread and I wanted to ask everyone how they feel perceptions shape their world and themselves as people, as a label, as a society, culture or whatever else the people out here use to identify themselves and how perceptions fit in to that. I define perception as a point of view. Basically, am looking for whatever perceptions those around are willing to share and how the perception was formed in their opinion. Thank You all for your time in this.....

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 12:28:38 PM

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You're asking a HUGE question there, and one even I don't think I can fully fathom.

I am influenced by everything I absorb and process- and I absorb and process a LOT. As kids, we have little to NO control over what we are exposed to, and little to NO control on what skills we learn in order to process them. As we become older, our processing patterns become more organized, we choose the tools from our toolbox at will, we can actively seek or actively avoid on a much wider level.

We also perceive and process things radically different depending on our age and level of experience.

I'm itching to get into the perception/reality issue here but I know *I* am not ready for that sort of discussion today so I'm not going there.

Though I have to say I have no idea what you mean by "perception being point of view."

Perhaps you are asking a clear and precise question and I'm overblowing it- that in itself is a perception that shows you my own thought processes and perspectives.

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 12:38:52 PM

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While I may think that I perceive you to be real (or at least an on-line character), all I can really be sure of is that I actually exist and have a perception, which I interprete to be you. Whether you are real or not, I cannot be sure. I can't even be sure that the computer upon which I am currently typing is real. For all I know, it may just be an interpretation of some random part of me, which thinks it perceives a keyboard and computer, but it too may not be real.

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 12:41:14 PM

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ok if I am walking down the street and I see a girl smack a guy on his arm and jump back...my perception or point of view changes based on my place in the situation as a person walking I see things from a third party and could assume she smacked him for a comment or was in an arguement...if I was standing near enough to them or was walking with them perhaps I saw her smack a spider on his shirt and missed it jumped and she backed away....examples of perception. Meaning I want to see the perceptions people hold about themselves or their lives.Obviously you could tell me perceptions of what you see with others ...and it would be perception as true as any perception is....Attempting to keep it simple perhaps it is broad...then again perhaps it is as broad as we make it...*smiles* Does this assist? *Thinks reality would be adding more to this reality versus perception may be too much for one thread*

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 12:43:35 PM

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It's my perception that I'm one helluva catch.....but I also run very fast!

Welcome aboard and post on!

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 12:45:40 PM

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going into reality a little you believe that you are real, what if you were a figment of your imagination or worse a figment of anothers imagination....was looking for perceptions which are variables within themselve...the reality/ perception angles could get too deep then again perhaps there are those up to it...

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 12:58:55 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: thegreymistress
saw her smack a spider on his shirt and missed it jumped and she backed away....examples of perception.

Those are examples of processing/conclusions based upon what you perceive.

Perceptions alter conclusions which can alter perceptions. Pretty basic there.

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Meaning I want to see the perceptions people hold about themselves or their lives.

Are you asking "how do you perceive yourself?"

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 1:02:12 PM

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yourself if you choose or your culture/society... perhaps your perception of yourself in the lifestyle whatever perception you feel comfortable with...I figured it would be a way to show our differences through similaraties..so to speak... L.A. your answer is yes that would be fine

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 1:05:32 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: thegreymistress
yourself if you choose or your culture/society... perhaps your perception of yourself in the lifestyle whatever perception you feel comfortable with...I figured it would be a way to show our differences through similaraties..so to speak...

You might want to try using full sentences with capitalization and end points, rather than ellipses, it makes your posts into one long run-on sentence/thought rather than clear, distinct ideas.

I'm still not sure what you're asking for. I can list off labels of how I perceive myself, I can pull up a few threads we've had on "how do you describe yourself to others" but I get the feeling you're grasping for something a bit different.

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 1:20:35 PM

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In general i think it's human nature to want to be perceived by others in a certain way, at least i know i do. But...does it affect me or my life if they do not? Not entirely. At times...if i've been "perceived" in a way that i do not agree with....it might cause me to take a look at myself...and understand how their perceptions were formed...by my actions...words...etc...and to decide if it's something that i may need to work on. If your asking if i worry about society's perception of me in regards to my lifestyle, well...i'm lucky enough not to have to worry about whether or not someone perceives me in a negative fashion because of WIIWD (thank you CrappyDom

) Unfortunately....many are not so lucky....and their livlihoods depend on positive perception from society...etc as a whole.

I think perception is simply the process at which we which we arrive at a point of view. For example...If i'm reading the forums....and a particular Dominant or submissive or switch, consistantly answers questions/concerns or gives opinions in a non inflamatory...well thought out way...i percieve them to be genuinely helpful in nature...and truly interested in the exchange of ideas and concepts. If on the other hand...the majority of their posts are inflamatory...or negative.. denegrating....or the ever popular "my way is the only way" Then i "perceive " them to be mildly insecure and or unhappy....( as in misery loves company) or what i like to refer to as "Domlier/subbier than thou". Where as i may think someone isn't being very nice....another may "perceive" that the person in question is..."just a smart ass...or a "hoot".
It's like the the old.... 3 blind man and the elephant fable...one touches the leg...and "perceives it to be a tree...the next touches another part of the elephant...and "perceives it to be something else entirely ( sorry...i forgot the particulars of the fable...hopefully y'all get the point)
My point of view is based on my perception of the information at hand. The interesting thing is...that these things are just as indivdually based as any opinions and seldom do they exactly match those of others.

Sorry...got a little rambly there...hope it addressed the OP for the most part...

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 1:42:18 PM

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Going deep can be fun, but I am struggling with the question also. Are you asking people to simply share what there perceptions are of the world and how they arrived at that viewpoint? That seems insanely broad.

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 1:47:30 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sensualips

Going deep can be fun, but I am struggling with the question also. Are you asking people to simply share what there perceptions are of the world and how they arrived at that viewpoint? That seems insanely broad.

I'm still trying to grasp it too. If the question is that broad it would be easier to try to make someone understand what an orgasm feels when they have never had one.

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 2:05:15 PM

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Perceptions of what you consider yourself to be....As a part of the society,culture, other "label" that you identify with(sub or dominant) etc......I am curious to see how you see yourself in the world, since it is hard to give others perceptions of you without asking another. Then it would be your perception of their perception.In short, I want your perception of yourself as you feel you relate to your identity in parts or as a whole.Is that clearer?

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 2:07:49 PM

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quote:

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In short, I want your perception of yourself as you feel you relate to your identity in parts or as a whole.Is that clearer?

Not for me, sorry.

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 2:15:49 PM

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(An example from looking briefly at your profile) How does you see yourself as a bi,poly,switch ...or do you see yourself as more than that. What perspective do you use to see yourself with....Is the view a constant or do you see yourself differently in different situations.(no pun intended with the switch aspect) Perhaps you identify religiously or philosophically with yourself than with the bdsm points of view....Is that better?

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 2:21:56 PM

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Perceptions are made from information you have taken in from outside experiences, you either make a judgement call based on what you perceive to be obvious at any given moment, or fill in the gap using an association you have from the past, consciously or unconsciously. In either case, perceptions can be unreliable, misleading and erroneous.

Most people would perceive themselves from a point of view gathered from associations with past experiences and relationship with an external world.

I am mother
I am father
I am a banker
I am a son
I am happy
I am sad
I am this
I am that
I am educated
I am screwed up
I am together
I am a Master
I am a slave
I am
I am
I am

All perceptions of self gathered from information they have received from outside sources and the subsequent association and attachment has influenced their idea of self.

This is kinda a deep subject hey.

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 2:29:38 PM

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Good point slavejali, the sociological identities I am familiar with. The question then comes what form of those do you percieve yourself to be. There are traditional stereotypes for each identities albeit they change from "group to group". So I am sure most of us are at least semi aware of the "status.'" The question is what do you most strongly identify yourself with...which perception do you hold to be true to you, and perhaps, if that is a "status or label" what does the "status or label" mean to you?

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 2:34:43 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: spankmepink11

In general i think it's human nature to want to be perceived by others in a certain way, at least i know i do. But...does it affect me or my life if they do not? Not entirely. At times...if i've been "perceived" in a way that i do not agree with....it might cause me to take a look at myself...and understand how their perceptions were formed...by my actions...words...etc...and to decide if it's something that i may need to work on. If your asking if i worry about society's perception of me in regards to my lifestyle, well...i'm lucky enough not to have to worry about whether or not someone perceives me in a negative fashion because of WIIWD (thank you CrappyDom ) Unfortunately....many are not so lucky....and their livlihoods depend on positive perception from society...etc as a whole.

I think perception is simply the process at which we which we arrive at a point of view. For example...If i'm reading the forums....and a particular Dominant or submissive or switch, consistantly answers questions/concerns or gives opinions in a non inflamatory...well thought out way...i percieve them to be genuinely helpful in nature...and truly interested in the exchange of ideas and concepts. If on the other hand...the majority of their posts are inflamatory...or negative.. denegrating....or the ever popular "my way is the only way" Then i "perceive " them to be mildly insecure and or unhappy....( as in misery loves company) or what i like to refer to as "Domlier/subbier than thou". Where as i may think someone isn't being very nice....another may "perceive" that the person in question is..."just a smart ass...or a "hoot".
It's like the the old.... 3 blind man and the elephant fable...one touches the leg...and "perceives it to be a tree...the next touches another part of the elephant...and "perceives it to be something else entirely ( sorry...i forgot the particulars of the fable...hopefully y'all get the point)
My point of view is based on my perception of the information at hand. The interesting thing is...that these things are just as indivdually based as any opinions and seldom do they exactly match those of others.

Sorry...got a little rambly there...hope it addressed the OP for the most part...

You did and I appreciate your opinion on this matter.

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 3:37:17 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: thegreymistress
How does you see yourself as a bi,poly,switch

I really do just take whatever works for me and I've found that "Hey, a LOT of this works for me"

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...or do you see yourself as more than that.

Lord I hope I'm more than can be encapsulated within three words.

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What perspective do you use to see yourself with....Is the view a constant or do you see yourself differently in different situations

Ahhh this goes back to my first response in the thread-I am influenced by everything I absorb and process- and I absorb and process a LOT.

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Perhaps you identify religiously or philosophically with yourself than with the bdsm points of view....Is that better?

I try to identify with myself as holistically as possible- and there are a lot of lenses I view myself and the world through.

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RE: perceptions - 5/9/2006 4:03:12 PM

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Well *I am* going to have to sound a bit new agey here *ugh*...but really I identify myself most strongly with that which is behind the definitions or labels or whatever, realistically, wherever I go, whatever I experience there I am...and that part of me remains unchanged. I can adapt and flow into any situation, I can associate with something for awhile, kinda like water, it adapts to the vessel it's in but doesnt think it's the vessel (or situation). I hesitated in talking about this as without a lengthy explanation it could be *perceived* that I am wishy washy or that I have a personality or character that changes with the slightest breeze, painting myself as superficial at the very most.

The label slave, I can associate with as an adjective and a verb, a descriptive and doing word, but is it really me? I am associating with it...I am not the association...that in itself would make me subject to a circumstance and my identification would be reliant on what I'm doing or being in regards to an external interaction. Yet, I can state in full confidence, I am slave and it would be an honest and conscious description.

The identification as female, I can associate with as an adjective and verb as well. If you took off all my clothes and described me saying I was female would be an accurate way to describe me. My display of feminine qualities when I am interacting in the world and within my relationships would accurately portray how I am in the world within action.

I can identify myself with so many things, yet I really know there is a part of me that is not subject to any of that, my innermost part, the part that remains unchanged...that is mostly what I identify with, perhaps you would call it spirit, soul, whatever. Its because of that perhaps that I am drawn to Master/slave relationships because when all is said and done, I desire to be the best I can be in this world and I see a life of service and surrender to be the greatest thing I could offer of myself, I can commit my entire being to that, I can focus all my energy into that...Master/slave relationship affords me the opportunity to play and love and live in a most intense way within my most intimate relationship.

Told ya I was gonna sound new agey..(damnit). I really dont talk about this kinda stuff very often, I don't really think its anything to be talked about and I've probably done a poor job of the description anyways.....its just a way of being.

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