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the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 5:55:57 PM

dogobedience

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As I have stated here and at a__, and b______, the perfect dom only exists in cyberspace. For those who can only live their lives in it (married, work, location, etc.).......well cyber is fantastic. Simply be honest and say so, this is MY fantasy and nothing more.
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BUT why is it you girls, MOSTLY the new ones fall for the cyberdoms, or flat out liars. Especially IF you seek out a real face to face experience.

YES, the internet allows all of us to meet. However it has poluted this great lifestyle with male and female cyber fantasy players! I see the internet as a tool NOT life.Okay with the expolsion of the internet it has brought more people into it. BUT I BET their are more new guys simply seeking easy sex, than real doms with true experience.

If all the internet sites were to be seperated into REAL FACE TO FACE, and cyber , I bet that it would be 10%/90% split, real life experience/cyber fantasy.

When all the dust settles........you find that EXPERIENCED dom's are the VAST minority. However if you look at most sites you see a totally different picture, one that looks as if slaves can pick and choose.........LOL LOL LOL!!! . Simply put, a real dom knows thet the odds are in his favor If he can overcome the "perfect one"..........after the girl is ripped of one,two, three times with a poser.They become jaded, a preacher, teacher, and usually forever unowned......what a pity.....for everyone!!!
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We all start somewhere, nobody is born with a slave, but the best dom's find a way to learn and become good if not great through practice and more practice in a real face to face, hands on way. NEVER can you properly own on line. IT is like eating food online vs going to a resturant...online will make you hungry BUT never will it fill you up!

My favorite line EVER said to me was...........OH that is what a real master feels like!!!!!!!!. That was after meeting and training a girl with "years of experience".......yea right, online !

Peolple, we all constantly read about posers polutimg the lifestyle, when will you ever learn...............ASK QUESTIONS, MORE QUESTIONS, THEN SEEK REFFERENCES!!!!!

HI Sasshay, you help many before they fail........ty

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:09:43 PM

texasbutterfly

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i am probably opening myself up for alot of criticism but as a woman who is new to this lifestyle it is very easy to fall for the wrong type. i am learning, as fast as i can, but it was not fast enough to protect me from making the wrong decision. i made that decision based on what little i knew and paid the price with what i consider one of my greatest assets...my open honesty and sincere heart.

because of that bad decision, i find myself holding back a vital part of who i am, questioning my decision making skills and my judgement.

i yearn for the true experience and now find myself doubting i will ever find it. i am a gullible person anyway, i tend to take people at face value until it is too late and they have already shown their true colors.

i myself waited a long time to open myself up to this lifestyle and was not patient enough with my learning. that is how i fell for the wrong dom.

i don't know if that answered anything that you wanted to know or if you were just venting some frustration. believe me, the girls that fall for the wrong sort are just as frustrated.

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:13:00 PM

MsMacComb

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quote:

ORIGINAL: texasbutterfly

i am probably opening myself up for alot of criticism but as a woman who is new to this lifestyle it is very easy to fall for the wrong type. i am learning, as fast as i can, but it was not fast enough to protect me from making the wrong decision. i made that decision based on what little i knew and paid the price with what i consider one of my greatest assets...my open honesty and sincere heart.

because of that bad decision, i find myself holding back a vital part of who i am, questioning my decision making skills and my judgement.

i yearn for the true experience and now find myself doubting i will ever find it. i am a gullible person anyway, i tend to take people at face value until it is too late and they have already shown their true colors.

i myself waited a long time to open myself up to this lifestyle and was not patient enough with my learning. that is how i fell for the wrong dom.

i don't know if that answered anything that you wanted to know or if you were just venting some frustration. believe me, the girls that fall for the wrong sort are just as frustrated.

Just remember that "No means No". If a Dome/Domme tells you otherwise, run away.

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:16:59 PM

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Now experienced dom would ever mind questions about his abilities.

The difficulty is in the fact that the girl WANTS TO BELIEVE, after he did spell BDSM correctly, and he did barrow his mommies belt or whip. LOL I see girls constantly make their dom the best ever......with no frame of refference...and he will say you are correct......please call me grand puba......

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:20:14 PM

dogobedience

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OK I did not proof read........good DOM, BAD at proof reading lol it is
NO dom.......

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:22:45 PM

dogobedience

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Great reply................................
Just remember that "No means No". If a Dome/Domme tells you otherwise, run away.

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:23:35 PM

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The best answer I can think of is "because they want to."

They WANT what their fantasy brings, they get caught up in the newness of it, the fantasy of it, and, even when everyone is screaming at them to slow down and think about it...they don't want to.

If they didn't want to be in those relationships, they wouldn't.

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:23:37 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: dogobedience

As I have stated here and at a__, and b______, the perfect dom only exists in cyberspace.

You are wrong on this one. There are perfect Dom's out there maybe not everyones perfect Dom, but perfect for someone. I had the perfect match for many a year and i have the perfect match now.

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:24:26 PM

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What I don't get is, why do you let it bother you?

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:26:25 PM

dogobedience

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YES perfect doms do exist, and you are blessed to have the ability to see through all the polutants.........now can you share your DNA to others?

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:32:50 PM

dogobedience

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It bothers me for two reasons.
First, I am here again to complete what I started years ago. I am not perfect , however even one with skills is no match against a cyber uber god........
Second, I meet too many girls who are poluted and NEED not to have been.

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:41:20 PM

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I guess I understand what you're saying, its hard to pierce through wrong beliefs of *how it is* that have been instilled into someone. Do you really want to hook up with someone who has no real life experience though? They are going to be the ones most susceptable to the online crap stuff and all the issues that are going to surround that.

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:43:06 PM

Littlepita

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This is why I am so glad I never had to go online to search for a dom. I did meet mine online and we happened to click immediately. I still tested and questioned him extensively waiting for the red flags to appear. He respected that and never kept anything from me or what he was exactly looking for.

I sure feel for those who are truly looking and finding nothing but cyber junkies who have no clue what it really takes to be a dom.

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:44:14 PM

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The perfect Dom by who's measure? Who's standards? Who's needs? ...who's WANTS?

What I want and how I measure a man would be so different from how you might do so...or the next girl. How can we begin to determine what 'perfect' IS?

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:49:38 PM

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Greetings,

I have a friend named Michael Tresca who did his Master's thesis on personality changes in cyberspace versus real life. Cyberspace is a consequence free environment, where all the mindless cretins whose abusive and obnoxious personality traits caused their classmates in kindergarten to pinch their melon heads, can then portray all of the worst qualities that can be found in our species without restraint.

People ask me why I seldom ask people I meet in real life why I seldom meet them in real life. The way to Mr. Tiny and my flogger arm involves real life interaction. I have met somebody I plan to meet this week, and we have spent hours talking on the phone since we first met online.

Just me, could be wrong, etc.

Sinergy

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:49:39 PM

texasbutterfly

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Do you really want to hook up with someone who has no real life experience though? They are going to be the ones most susceptable to the online crap stuff and all the issues that are going to surround that.

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slavejali, i agree that i am more suseptible than more experienced real lifers. but does that mean i should be ostracized for something i cannot help at this time. i will be getting into real life as soon as i am able, but right now, online is all i have.

i am seeking knowledge and experience. if every real dom looks only to those subs/slaves with experience that is going to leave me out in the cold or stuck with some online nutjob who has no idea what he is doing.

i am sorry for coming off so angry, but i am getting really tired of people telling me that if i have no real life experience then i cannot possibly know what i am getting into or what i am doing.

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:50:25 PM

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I think it is fair to say that there are just as many doms being approached by people exploring their submissive side who get hung out to dry in just the same way. I think it would be far more productive discussing things that might give someone away if they are lying rather than just bitching about the fact that they do it.

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:50:46 PM

JohnWarren

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quote:

ORIGINAL: dogobedience

YES perfect doms do exist, and you are blessed to have the ability to see through all the polutants.........now can you share your DNA to others?

You know, you're not really helping your case in that, when someone disagrees with you and states what seems to be a pretty rational stance, your response is sarcasm.

Yes, there are a lot of deceptive people online, but the solution to that is for both people to be careful if they meet online. Personally, I tend to recommend munches and events where people can meet face to face. That's where Libby and I have met most of our play partners.

As to say there are no perfect doms, that is your opinion and reflects both your view of others and of yourself, but others have met their "perfect match." Perfection is a subjective measure and varies for each person. It's not a goal that I personally would recommend, but I'm not going to disparage those who do.

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:50:57 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

Greetings,

I have a friend named Michael Tresca who did his Master's thesis on personality changes in cyberspace versus real life. Cyberspace is a consequence free environment, where all the mindless cretins whose abusive and obnoxious personality traits caused their classmates in kindergarten to pinch their melon heads, can then portray all of the worst qualities that can be found in our species without restraint.

People ask me why I seldom ask people I meet in real life why I seldom meet them in real life. The way to Mr. Tiny and my flogger arm involves real life interaction. I have met somebody I plan to meet this week, and we have spent hours talking on the phone since we first met online.

Just me, could be wrong, etc.

Sinergy

you make me laugh Mr Sinergy...smiles

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RE: the "PERFECT DOM" (and other cyber lies) - 5/9/2006 6:51:48 PM

dogobedience

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Great replies..........
1) No I do not need a "fresh slave", only one with no baggage, hence they tend to be younger. I take great pride in hearing from those with experience, they know what to look for!!!!!!!!!
2)PERFECT ,in refference to cyber, where everyting is soooooooooooooo wonderful!!!!!!

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