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ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh
I thought liability might be an issue as staff were just standing around. I have no idea about law in the US but if that sort of thing happened in a bar or a club I assume intervention would occur. I wonder should there be a certain duty of care towards customers in this respect when on a company premises? It would have to be limited of course or people would abuse it by setting up false assaults to sue but if an assault is easily preventable as it was where it was just two fairly young girls that could be easily ejected or at least blocked from the assault victim without much danger to the staff but they allow the assault to continue then I feel the company should have some responsibility - morally at least.

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ORIGINAL: DomImus
There is a vast difference between a bar/club and a fast food outlet. I've never seen a bouncer at McDonald's. Bars and clubs are equipped and prepared to deal with these situations.

As far as the employees getting involved or even bystanders for that matter... you never know what you are getting yourself into. I'm not using that as an excuse for people not to get involved but you have to be prepared for anything. Like the two assailants turning on you. Even though I suspect that I could have kicked both of those women's asses and sent each of them to the ER - if I had been there I would only have intervened after having retrieved my firearm from my car (I have it with me 24/7). I carry it in a holster. I would have displayed it clearly but would not have removed it from the holster unless the assailants unwisely turned on me or threatened me. Then you don't know if they also have one in their car or purse but at least at that point it's a fair fight.

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bouncers are rarely at fast food restaurants

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ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh
I thought liability might be an issue as staff were just standing around. I have no idea about law in the US but if that sort of thing happened in a bar or a club I assume intervention would occur. I wonder should there be a certain duty of care towards customers in this respect when on a company premises? It would have to be limited of course or people would abuse it by setting up false assaults to sue but if an assault is easily preventable as it was where it was just two fairly young girls that could be easily ejected or at least blocked from the assault victim without much danger to the staff but they allow the assault to continue then I feel the company should have some responsibility - morally at least.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh
I thought liability might be an issue as staff were just standing around. I have no idea about law in the US but if that sort of thing happened in a bar or a club I assume intervention would occur. I wonder should there be a certain duty of care towards customers in this respect when on a company premises? It would have to be limited of course or people would abuse it by setting up false assaults to sue but if an assault is easily preventable as it was where it was just two fairly young girls that could be easily ejected or at least blocked from the assault victim without much danger to the staff but they allow the assault to continue then I feel the company should have some responsibility - morally at least.

The duty of care to a patron is only that of what is considered a reasonable standard. If somebody mops a floor and doesn't alert the patron that the floor is wet where the patron slips and incurs an injury, that is the establishment's liability. That's why you see the sign to caution folks about an unusual condition. (The floor wet/mopping in progress sign.) What happened here between patrons of the establishment isn't the responsibility of the business because the restaurant had no influence to prompt the incident to occur. Also, you can't instruct your employees to intervene unless you are specifically training them to do so and cover it under their responsibilities as an employee.

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

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bouncers are rarely at fast food restaurants

 
Wow.  I have NEVER seen bouncers at a McDonalds. I'll never visit a restaurant there, lemme tell ya!

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If you wouldn't visit a restaurant where I live then you would be out of luck as the inner city shops/mini-markets often have bouncers at night as well, especially as the blood flows in the streets at the weekend! [/quote/

suits me me fine, then.  Why in gods name would I WANT to visit such a place?

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(in reply to WantsOfTheFlesh)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
I couldn't look at your profile to see where you live, but now I'm curious.

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

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If you wouldn't visit a restaurant where I live then you would be out of luck as the inner city shops/mini-markets often have bouncers at night as well, especially as the blood flows in the streets at the weekend!

suits me me fine, then.  Why in gods name would I WANT to visit such a place?

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I have never seen anyone posting here subjected to nonconsensual physical abuse. If you think that what happens here is simlar to that kind of beating, I usggest that you take a vacation from your computer.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

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I have never seen anyone posting here subjected to nonconsensual physical abuse. If you think that what happens here is simlar to that kind of beating, I usggest that you take a vacation from your computer.

It is a msg board, so physical abuse was not the reference. But I am in a minority with a different eye for things than others. I would never recommend that either sissies or CDs post here looking to form a connection because it won't go well for them. They are group paddling upstream in so many ways, but the video of TG woman getting beat up is just really the outward expression of how many actually feel on the inside, namely turned off and hostile. The twist is the hostility coming from other women, that's the differentiating factor from what Gays experience, who experience hostility mostly from men.

Expressions of "turned off" and "hostile" come in many varieties, but here its mostly in the form of negative projections. You know, CDs and Sissies wouldn't have such a problem finding partners if they weren't, well, you know, CDs and Sissies.

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ORIGINAL: TheShrew

Please, read my response twice before you fly up my nose, because I do not advocate physical violence of any kind, against anyone, for many reasons. {Unless you are being attacked/defending yourself.. then, you kick their ass.}   

In the South there is an old redneck phrase ... "just because a cat can birth her kittens in the oven, that don't make'em biscuits." 

In comparison, "just because the gentleman fancies himself a lady, that does not make him female."

Like it or not, the general rules we abide by each day were constructed by the vanilla world, and I think it safe to say quite a few people in this world are vanilla/straight-laced. Hence, it stands to reason a couple of straight laced, vanilla girls would perceive a man using the ladies room as some type of perv out to harm/peep them.  NO, I am NOT alluding that this was his intent. Merely speculating on how negatively most women would react to discovering a man in the ladies room.. in drag.

Shame on the people who watched the spectacle as well as the person filming. Kudos to the man in the blue shirt who repeatedly intervened. Kudos to the old lady for attempting to defend the man, and shame on the girl who punched the old lady in the eye.

~ Repetition for the skimmers ~  I am not advocating physical violence against this person for his sexual preference or gender affiliation. I am saying .. perhaps, he should not have been in the ladies room.

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ORIGINAL: hausboy

The two girls followed her into the restroom with the intent of beating her.