Chinese Christians held at Easter service

Collarspace Discussion Forums

Home Login Search

Chinese Christians held at Easter service

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> Chinese Christians held at Easter service

Page: [1] 2 3 4 5 next > >>

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 5:44:42 PM

Sanity

Posts: 22039
Joined: 6/14/2006
From: Nampa, Idaho USA
Status: offline

I wonder if leftists will ever manage to outlaw independent thought here

quote:

Chinese Christians held at Easter service: church

BEIJING — Up to 30 members of a Chinese evangelical church were arrested on Sunday for trying to hold an Easter service in defiance of the officially atheist government, a member of the clergy said.

A large number of police began to gather early Sunday in the Zhongguancun area of Beijing where the Shouwang Church had said it would hold an outdoor service to mark the holiest day of the Christian calendar.

"Between 20 and 30 followers were taken away by police," senior pastor Jin Tianming told AFP by telephone from his home, where he is under house arrest. He said there were several police officers posted outside the building.

He added that the members of the congregation who were arrested had been taken to different police stations and that none had so far been released.

Jin had said before the planned gathering that the church considered Easter an important occasion and would stick to its decision to hold a service.

"This is our uncompromising position and a matter of faith. If they arrest our followers, this is the price we are willing to pay," he had said.

Police declined to comment on the arrests when contacted by AFP.The defiant stance of the Shouwang Church, one of Beijing's biggest unofficial Christian groups, comes amid a severe crackdown on government critics that has seen scores of people detained, disappeared or facing charges.Authorities evicted Shouwang from its previous place of worship, a rented office space, in November and blocked the congregation of about 1,000 people from entering new premises purchased with church funds, Jin said.

China's communist government has long frowned on religion and imposes controls on faith by requiring groups to register for government approval to gather, despite an official policy stipulating religious freedom.

Full article here http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ikOKhFpdSkvn279UMCDsWLu7XVkw?docId=CNG.2f5a8fbdc481f0ab21e58aa4d496db7e.501

_____________________________

Inside Every Liberal Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out

Profile

Post #: 1

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 5:58:38 PM

Lucylastic

Posts: 40310
Status: offline

We wonder if you will ever be able to actually have an independent thought that in anyway resembles truth and or reality
We are severely doubtful

_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love

(in reply to Sanity)

Profile

Post #: 2

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 6:23:17 PM

thishereboi

Posts: 14463
Joined: 6/19/2008
Status: offline

I think it really sucks that people can't celebrate a holiday without this kind of shit happening.

That said. WTF does this have to do with the right vs left bullshit that stinks up these boards on such a regular basis?

_____________________________

"Sweetie, you're wasting your gum" .. Albert

This here is the boi formerly known as orfunboi

(in reply to Sanity)

Profile

Post #: 3

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 6:41:46 PM

Lucylastic

Posts: 40310
Status: offline

Nothing Boi, altho I could guess, but first I would have to find that this is a totally bogus thread because the chinese , are "ALL"commuist, and as we have been told, being a communist means you are not allowed to believe in god and be good christian folk,
end of sarcasm and confusion
Im afraid I just went for the person, not the message, Im liable to get mod spanked but its easter... I was feeling generous

_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love

(in reply to thishereboi)

Profile

Post #: 4

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 6:46:16 PM

Owner59

Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline

You`d think da guy would be more greatful to the chi-coms for bailing us out after the neo-cons broke us..........but noooooo....

_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to Lucylastic)

Profile

Post #: 5

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 6:50:32 PM

tazzygirl

Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline

Sanity.... What does this have to do with left/right politics?

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to Sanity)

Profile

Post #: 6

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 6:59:01 PM

Aylee

Posts: 24103
Joined: 10/14/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Sanity.... What does this have to do with left/right politics?

My guess is that he is making a note of the "left leaning" policies of making freedom of religion be freedom FROM religion.

An example:
http://www.thestar.com/living/article/974788

I will note that the story is not substantiated. However there has be the issues over "Merry Christmas" and "Happy Holidays" usage in some companies.

_____________________________

Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam

I don’t always wgah’nagl fhtagn. But when I do, I ph’nglui mglw’nafh R’lyeh.

(in reply to tazzygirl)

Profile

Post #: 7

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 7:05:17 PM

Owner59

Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline

"left leaning" policies of making freedom of religion be freedom FROM religion"

What?

Who the fuck are you to mind other people`s business or be concerned with what how or if they they pray?

Holy fuck`n shit....

Maybe you can be the religion tzar.....check up on folks and make sure they are praying ........and praying right.

_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to Aylee)

Profile

Post #: 8

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 7:05:51 PM

Hillwilliam

Posts: 19394
Joined: 8/27/2008
Status: offline

WHO was it that gave the Chinese Most Favored Nation trading status in 1989 after they assured us that little massacre in Tiananmen square never happened?

_____________________________

Kinkier than a cheap garden hose.

Whoever said "Religion is the opiate of the masses" never heard Right Wing talk radio.

Don't blame me, I voted for Gary Johnson.

(in reply to Aylee)

Profile

Post #: 9

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 7:09:16 PM

thishereboi

Posts: 14463
Joined: 6/19/2008
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Sanity.... What does this have to do with left/right politics?

My guess is that he is making a note of the "left leaning" policies of making freedom of religion be freedom FROM religion.

An example:
http://www.thestar.com/living/article/974788

I will note that the story is not substantiated. However there has be the issues over "Merry Christmas" and "Happy Holidays" usage in some companies.

Interesting, thought I still don't see the left vs right angle unless he is trying to imply that only those on the left can be idiots when it comes to political correctness.

_____________________________

"Sweetie, you're wasting your gum" .. Albert

This here is the boi formerly known as orfunboi

(in reply to Aylee)

Profile

Post #: 10

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 7:10:19 PM

jlf1961

Posts: 14840
Joined: 6/10/2008
From: Somewhere Texas
Status: offline

Owner59, the rightests on this board do not, will not, can not admit to the Bush Administration financing two wars with the Chinese.

Nor will they admit that it is and always has been the right who have tried to pass laws to limit free speech.

It was under a REPUBLICAN president that Larry Flint was first charged on pornography charges, the President of record was Gerald Ford.

Under the community standards rulings by the court, Republicans came up with this:

quote:

Community standards are local norms bounding acceptable conduct. Sometimes these standards can be itemized in a list that states the community's values and sets guidelines for participation in the community. Alternatively, informal standards may be imprecisely described as "I'll know it when I see it."

Often, such standards are invoked in legal situations to resolve disputes, especially around pornography. Critics argue that puritanical moralists have used community standards to wrongly punish minorities such as homosexuals or those in interracial marriages.

Colleges and universities enforce their standards through conduct offices in their Student Affairs divisions.

Thus community standards has been used to close adult bookstores, strip clubs, etc.

Which brings up the question, why the hell are conservatives even on this site?

_____________________________

Boy, it sure would be nice if we had some grenades, don't you think?

You cannot control who comes into your life, but you can control which airlock you throw them out of.

Paranoid Paramilitary Gun Loving Conspiracy Theorist AND EQUAL OPPORTUNI

(in reply to Owner59)

Profile

Post #: 11

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 7:14:23 PM

tazzygirl

Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline

A right leaning radio show host on KIRO started this story when a called named jessica, no last name, claimed something happened at a school, no name, with a teacher, no name....

Forgive my skepticism.

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to Aylee)

Profile

Post #: 12

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 7:17:16 PM

Owner59

Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline

The same ass-hats that impoverished the American private sector middle class and who are now looking to impoverish the American public sector middle class.The ones who lost all our money ,then borrowed more from us(and the chi-coms) to bail out the ass-hats.These corporate-America preditor capitalists also happen to be business partners and buddy-buddy money makers with the chi-coms.

Where do you think Walmart gets all it`s slave labor made cheap goods?

And the clown is crying crocodile tears?

_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to Hillwilliam)

Profile

Post #: 13

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 7:21:13 PM

thishereboi

Posts: 14463
Joined: 6/19/2008
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

A right leaning radio show host on KIRO started this story when a called named jessica, no last name, claimed something happened at a school, no name, with a teacher, no name....

Forgive my skepticism.

I'd have to say it is deserved. One of the downsides to instant news on the internet.

_____________________________

"Sweetie, you're wasting your gum" .. Albert

This here is the boi formerly known as orfunboi

(in reply to tazzygirl)

Profile

Post #: 14

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 7:30:21 PM

Aylee

Posts: 24103
Joined: 10/14/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

A right leaning radio show host on KIRO started this story when a called named jessica, no last name, claimed something happened at a school, no name, with a teacher, no name....

Forgive my skepticism.

Did you miss the part where I noted that the story was NOT substantiated?

_____________________________

Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam

I don’t always wgah’nagl fhtagn. But when I do, I ph’nglui mglw’nafh R’lyeh.

(in reply to tazzygirl)

Profile

Post #: 15

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 7:32:58 PM

Aylee

Posts: 24103
Joined: 10/14/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

"left leaning" policies of making freedom of religion be freedom FROM religion"

What?

Who the fuck are you to mind other people`s business or be concerned with what how or if they they pray?

Holy fuck`n shit....

Maybe you can be the religion tzar.....check up on folks and make sure they are praying ........and praying right.

What are you talking about? Where did prayer enter this?

_____________________________

Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam

I don’t always wgah’nagl fhtagn. But when I do, I ph’nglui mglw’nafh R’lyeh.

(in reply to Owner59)

Profile

Post #: 16

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 7:37:46 PM

Owner59

Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline

It's a metaphor and kind of an obvious one, for religion.

_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to Aylee)

Profile

Post #: 17

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 7:43:31 PM

tazzygirl

Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

A right leaning radio show host on KIRO started this story when a called named jessica, no last name, claimed something happened at a school, no name, with a teacher, no name....

Forgive my skepticism.

Did you miss the part where I noted that the story was NOT substantiated?

Yes, which is why I did not comment on that part. However, my skepticism is towards the story and the source... not towards you, Aylee.

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to Aylee)

Profile

Post #: 18

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 7:48:09 PM

Brain

Posts: 3792
Joined: 2/14/2007
Status: offline

I suppose the Chinese government believes it's protecting its citizens from the brainwashing by Christianity.

(in reply to Sanity)

Profile

Post #: 19

RE: Chinese Christians held at Easter service - 4/24/2011 8:02:30 PM

Aylee

Posts: 24103
Joined: 10/14/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Yes, which is why I did not comment on that part. However, my skepticism is towards the story and the source... not towards you, Aylee.

Ah, okay. I was confused. I just used it because I had heard about it off and on this last week. It actually seemed insane enough to actually be seen or heard in Lawrence.

_____________________________

Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam

I don’t always wgah’nagl fhtagn. But when I do, I ph’nglui mglw’nafh R’lyeh.

(in reply to tazzygirl)

Profile

Post #: 20