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Awareness -> RE: Do you have contempt for submissive males? (5/5/2011 11:41:25 PM)
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
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It really is a case of "methinks the lady doth protest overmuch". And to be sure, the same problem exists with some of the self-identified male dominants here, but it seems nowhere near as prevalent.
Which, oddly enough, was the sum of one comment on this thread before My name suddenly was being dragged into the thing, or at the very least, My prior sig line. Kind of a chicken shit move, but if you want to try to call it chicken salad, be My guest. Jesus Christ, how concerned are you with the random opinion of some asshole on the net? You claim not to play reputation dynamics and here you are bleating like a child about the fucking damage to your reputation made by some asshole who's not exactly held in high esteem by the brigade of sycophants here. Harden the fuck up, woman.
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The purpose of the paragraph was to illustrate how Doms disdain - and are ostracised for - the kind of behaviours which are de rigeur for Dommes. That essentially part of the dichotomy of my thinking on male vs female subs is tied into the behaviour and standards of the type of individuals to which they submit.
I didn't think that had jack to do with it considering that's not even what the question of the original was. The OP doesn't ask about Dominant woman at all. It asks about a prejudice regarding male submissives as a category of people. Had the same original been written with race or religion specified, rather than an orientation, there would have been no doubt that it was an obvious attempt to get folks to answer in the affirmative because they are basing it on a stereotype. No, you ditzy wench, it was a tangent introduced by yet another would-be Domme who had her panties in a twist. Your sig was the first and most eye-rolling thing which came to mind, simply because I encountered it the most and because Australians frequently refer to our homeland as "Oz". It caught my eye and stuck in my mind. Indeed, because of it, I originally thought you *were* Australian.
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Anyway, back to the point. I'll share something with you that most female Dominants know that a number of male Dominants don't get much first hand experience with. There are far more chest thumping male Dominants out there who secretly have a desire to submit than I think many people realize. Yes, yes. This is the second time you've made that suggestion and while I'm sure it really does strike fear into the hearts of some types who fear you've seen into their inner selves, it really does sound more to me like a comfortable explanation you reach for whenever you strike a male dominant who doesn't agree with you.
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In My personal opinion, the numbers game plays into this in the category, too. It's just not that easy to cut it as a male submissive looking for a Dominant woman. It's certainly not a 1:1 ratio by any means. There have always been fewer women on either side of the kneel, but the numbers do get a little better for male Dominants looking for a female submissive than those of a male submissive looking for a female Dominant. In short, they gave up and that drives the bitterness that they have for male submissives who have been able to obtain what they were not able to achieve. Numbers only factor into things if you're playing a numbers game. A male dominant with strength and character is rare. And believe me, female submissives who aren't possessed by sub frenzy can spot 'em a mile off. The good news is, any man who doesn't have the requisite strength and character can achieve it. This involves hardening the fuck up, making difficult choices and becoming a man.
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It's important to remember that the male submissives on this thread don't have the status quo experience of the average male submissive. Unlike the participants here, most males submissives don't have a number of Dominant women lined up to throw their hat in the ring. The guys on this thread are by far the exception and not the rule. The average male submissive isn't always going to win the numbers game. When they don't, where do you think they go? They either give up and go vanilla or they go to the other side of the kneel. Oh bollocks. The male submissives in this thread have merely ingratiated themselves into a group. That's all. Your evaluation of them is not based upon some impartial metric - it's all about alliances. It's about as credible as any woman's evaluation of her friends or social circle.
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By the way, if you actually want to discuss how the numbers game effects the advantages of Dominant women that Dominant males don't have, I'll happily participate in the discussion. You might even find us on the same side because I've been saying that for years. To be honest, I don't see the point. Any Dom who whines about the fact that women have the opportunity to be more selective just by virtue of the relative numbers needs to seriously take a good look at himself and harden the fuck up. Life is hard, we're in competition for resources, power and the opposite sex. The options are either A) Deal with it or B) Turn into a subby bitch and whine for attention.
Come to think of it, there's been an awful lot of option B exercised in this thread. Funny that.
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