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Aylee -> RE: A "Fast Reply" to all the Osama topics out there. (5/4/2011 9:37:25 AM)
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
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Islam allows lying to unbelievers. Without interrogation using truth drugs how could we have gotten the true answers.
So, what, were you wanting him to blame Bush for the Twin Tower attacks? Is that what you were hoping for? Would you consider that a mitigating circumstance?
Hmmmm, you are labeling me a conspiracy theorist, more or less. I would say you should find support for that assertion in what I have written on these boards about this topic over the last several years... and yes I have written on the topic.
No, I used it as a possible mitigating factor that OBL may have given. America is bad and Bush is the Head of State, so it was his fault.
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I really do not give a rat's ass what "Islam" does with their justice system
It is about what their faith allows. Not their justice system. [8|]
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, that has no germane purpose in this discussion other than to justify our dismissal of our own values by pointing to someone else's behavior as an excuse... something that the OP addressed beautifully, so I do not feel the need to reiterate her points, I agree with them. It is the same song and dance that people assert as a justification for torture "They do it!".... that sort of justification doesn't work in grammar school and it shouldn't work here.
Really? You are aware that reprisals are legal under the war conventions, right? We actually have the wartime right of bombing and killing a community of 3000 civilian Al-Qaida supporters. Yet you have your panties in a twist over the execution of one self-proclaim murderer/terrorist. Do you actually KNOW the difference between enemy and criminal?
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As I said, trials are fact finding endeavors. I do not know what OBL had to say, or if it would elicit truth, the fact of the matter is that our government never had any intention of trying him. People will draw their own conclusions as to why this is so, and some of those conclusions might rightly be about OBL's connections. We will never know. Now, I can feel that this is a shame, because I would deeply like to know the other side of this story.
If you want to know OBL's side of the story there are several videos and tapes that were released from him. You might start with YouTube as they likely have them. I, on the other hand, am perfectly content with classing him as bat-shit fucking crazy.
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Your assertion that nothing good could come out of such a trial is rather startling,
My assertion is that we already know he is guilty. There are no mitigating circumstances for planning and carrying out the flight of planes into buildings to murder civilians because you disagree with their faith/values/country of residence.
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considering that it is quite common for families of the victims of serial killers want answers surrounding the final moments of their loved ones lives.
You class OBL as a serial killer? That is a bizarre way of looking at it.
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They want to know things, such as where they are buried... some of these facts are only known by the killer.
Check Ground Zero. The remains are there. Those that were not found, that is. Or they are in the air we are breathing now.
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This is the reason I wanted OBL tried and convicted within a court of Western law.
Again, look up the difference between 'enemy' and 'criminal.'
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It is in line with our values, and we had an opportunity to know more than we do now.
And here I thought one of our core values was protecting our own citizens from further terrorist attacks.
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It would also stop the speculation that he isn't really dead.
Well, yes. Because he would be alive and in court. And he would be a rallying point for further attacks.
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