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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 8:30:49 AM   
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US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP
Tags: HIDDEN HISTORY The unending American quest for supremacy has continued unabated since its first involvement in the affairs of Argentina in 1890.

Hunky, if you woulde read actual history instead of those tabloids, you would know it goes a LOT further back than that.
Beginning with the colonization of the North American continent actually - "Manifest Destiny" anybody?

One of the first large populist protests over expansionism in foreign policy, was over the annexation of the Philippines.

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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 8:33:41 AM   
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All that leather she wears.....just know she is a kinkster

But which side of the kneel is she on? Gotta be careful dude, ya might find yourself in an Eskimo maid's outfit dusting her grizzly bear.

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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 8:34:49 AM   
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historical facts are illusive.

take the 14th amendment for instance.

it was "certified"!

however it was completely unconstitutional and frankly violated more laws than I can think of.  Never passed according to the rules yet is is a "certified" fact of history much like ohahas BC has now become.  fraud notwithstanding

You mean because the secessionist states weren't allowed to vote on it? Lol.

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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 8:39:36 AM   
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All that leather she wears.....just know she is a kinkster

But which side of the kneel is she on? Gotta be careful dude, ya might find yourself in an Eskimo maid's outfit dusting her grizzly bear.


Swing for the cheap seats if you are going to swing..right?

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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 8:41:37 AM   
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All that leather she wears.....just know she is a kinkster

But which side of the kneel is she on? Gotta be careful dude, ya might find yourself in an Eskimo maid's outfit dusting her grizzly bear.


Swing for the cheap seats if you are going to swing..right?

Hell of a visual, though, isn't it? Might even make sunny's quote of the day.

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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 9:41:16 AM   
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At the very end of the Century we fought a viscious two year counter insurgance in the Philippines.


I remain unconvinced that aguinaldo would view that as a counter insurgecy


He would call it a battle for liberation and independence against American occupation, doncha think? Unfortunately, history is written by the winners, or so it is said.

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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 9:45:37 AM   
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Beginning with the colonization of the North American continent actually - "Manifest Destiny" anybody?

One of the first large populist protests over expansionism in foreign policy, was over the annexation of the Philippines.


While not a large populist protest, Abraham Lincoln protested the War against Mexico when he was in the House fifty years earlier.

Additonally, let's not overlook the wars against the Indian Tribes in the West as part of our expansionist agenda.

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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 9:53:51 AM   
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The expansion west included a great number of  mexicans, so not every brown skin person you see in that area is lacking a green card.

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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 10:36:28 AM   
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Well all of Europe and damn near all of Asia. Oceana. Increasingly large hunks of Africa, South America.....



You were going to tell us the good that the u.s. has done in these places?????


Yes, try to think about the world if we hadn't been there.....yes a lot of good



I'm sure you are right but so far I have not seen a lot of it posted.

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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 11:02:31 AM   
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I, on the other hand have a few seconds to expend with google.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17122


Perhaps you should have taken a few more seconds to read what you posted.
This from your above cite

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Concluding Remarks

Haiti is a country under military occupation since the US instigated Coup d'Etat of February 2004.

The entry of ten thousand heavily armed US troops, coupled with the activities of local militia could potentially precipitate the country into social chaos.

These foreign forces have entered the country to reinforce MINUSTAH "peacekeepers" and Haitian police forces (integrated by former Tonton Macoute), which since 2004, have been responsible for war crimes directed against the Haitian people, including the indiscriminate killing of civilians.

These troups reinforce the existing occupation forces under UN mandate.

Twenty thousand foreign troops under SOUTHCOM and MINUSTAH commands will be present in the country. In all likelihood, there will be an integration or coordination of the command structures of SOUTHCOM and MINUSTAH.

The Haitian people have exhibited a high degree of solidarity, courage and social commitment.

Helping one another and acting with consciousness: under very difficult conditions, in the immediate wake of the disaster, citizens' rescue teams were set up spontaneously.

The militarization of relief operations will weaken the organizational capabilities of Haitians to rebuild and reinstate the institutions of civilian government which have been destroyed. It will also encroach upon the efforts of the international medical teams and civilian relief organisations.

It is absolutely essential that the Haitian people continue to forcefully oppose the presence of foreign troops in their country, particularly in public security operations.

It is essential that Americans across the land forcefully oppose the decision of the Obama adminstration to send US combat troops to Haiti.

There can be no real reconstruction or development under foreign military occupation.


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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 11:04:46 AM   
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Careful there, DYB, if you disagree with little tommy, you might join tha Hill dude in the "punkass motherfucker box"


On the contrary...dyb has always been civil in his post to me and consequently he gets civility in return. If one acts like a punckass motherfucker then that is how one will be treated.

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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 11:36:29 AM   
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historical facts are illusive.

take the 14th amendment for instance.

it was "certified"!

however it was completely unconstitutional and frankly violated more laws than I can think of.  Never passed according to the rules yet is is a "certified" fact of history much like ohahas BC has now become.  fraud notwithstanding

You mean because the secessionist states weren't allowed to vote on it? Lol.



the reason they wanted to secede is because the feds who were broke and just happened to be the north were in violation of law.

The states NEVER SECEDED.

If you can find that they actually succeeded in seceding by all means reference it.

They did not succeed, and they were denied suffrage in congress when they pulled a fast and again unlawful one and put them under military jurisdiction.  They had no authority on any level or in any law form to deny those states suffrage in congress.

That and even without that they did NOT have the vote to pass the 14th, and Mcmillion or whatever the hell his name was did not have the authority to decide which votes were lawful and which were not.

All toll its more fraud thrust upon the american people but then that was the goal of the 14th in the first place..... to create the "commercial" paper decedent cit. (izen)

Produce your documents, if you want I can certainly produce mine.



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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 11:44:01 AM   
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here is one of the many, go away with your tinfoiling.

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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 11:51:48 AM   
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Careful there, DYB, if you disagree with little tommy, you might join tha Hill dude in the "punkass motherfucker box"


On the contrary...dyb has always been civil in his post to me and consequently he gets civility in return. If one acts like a punckass motherfucker then that is how one will be treated.

And if one acts like a 13 year old having a tantrum in the yard or a little ankle humping terrier, that is how he will be treated. Bout time you woke up.

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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 1:26:10 PM   
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Umm maybe i have remembered my history wrong, but isn't history full of the most powerful countries/empires/territories "meddling.?"

I have repeatedly suggested and I think with logical validity in this discussion. When mankind looks back at empire we have a very wide spectrum for analysis.

So in the end, the real historical comparison is that all those availing themselves of the right to attack, invade or in anyway make war against another country or people...did it to conquer, enslave and plunder even seeking gold as protection against it. So list them, Egyptians, Greeks, Mongols, Asians, Persians, Romans, Ottoman's and the western European colonialists.

All that is different about 'people' and their 'leaders' over history was the strength of the military or in the case of the 20th century...the advancement of navies. The US just has the strongest now and otherwise strong enough for about a century. Yet we do not seek to conquer a people so much as to secure wealth and to establish a strong political and military presence and not always successfully.

Yes, 'War is a Racket' (the late Marine general Smedley Butler turned author, wrote it) has been all throughout history and will remain so...forever. America left its founding principles and has now joined in the world's ever present ancient march, just more slowly devolving back into...'hunter gatherers.'

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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 2:08:13 PM   
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And if one acts like a 13 year old having a tantrum in the yard or a little ankle humping terrier, that is how he will be treated. Bout time you woke up.


I have asked you to validate your opinions so far you have failed to do so.

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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 2:09:01 PM   
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http://www.civil-war.net/pages/georgia_declaration.asp

here is one of the many, go away with your tinfoiling.


one party alone cannot dissolve a 2 party agreement, nice try


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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 2:15:43 PM   
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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 2:15:49 PM   
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Here you go RO...find it yourself!
You must be correct and history is surely wrong! You don't own a gold lame' jumpsuit....do you?

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RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 year... - 5/6/2011 2:17:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Funny how a thread that dealt with the US meddling in a number of countries has deteriorated to an argument about the slave trade.

I find it funny that hunky would single out the United States, when in truth, the entire western world has interfered with other countries since the Columbus sailed to the new world.

Consider the way Great Britain interfered in China and India, as well as a large number of African countries, not to mention the middle east after world war I.

The Dutch in Malaysia, Java, etc.

The French in Indochina.

The blaming of one country is actually quite ridicules, and singling out the United States is even more so.

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