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pahunkboy -> US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/4/2011 7:23:39 PM)

US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP
Tags: HIDDEN HISTORY The unending American quest for supremacy has continued unabated since its first involvement in the affairs of Argentina in 1890.




Hillwilliam -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/4/2011 7:50:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP
Tags: HIDDEN HISTORY The unending American quest for supremacy has continued unabated since its first involvement in the affairs of Argentina in 1890.

Hunky, if you woulde read actual history instead of those tabloids, you would know it goes a LOT further back than that.




Owner59 -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/4/2011 8:23:32 PM)

We`ve also done a lot of good.




tweakabelle -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/4/2011 8:34:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

We`ve also done a lot of good.

Your point is certainly valid, Owner59. US intervention has resulted in positive outcomes in many instances.

However, the same claim is also advanced by the Chinese as one of their reasons to justify their invasion of Tibet. The Chinese claim they 'liberated' Tibet from a medieval theocracy. I don't wish to suggest for a moment that the US is the same as China. But what's good for the goose is also good for the gander......




Edwynn -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/4/2011 9:02:04 PM)






Let's see what India and South Africa and others have to say about this also, concerning such benefit as claimed even to this day by their prior 'benefactors,' as long as we are speaking of waterfowl.









thompsonx -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/5/2011 4:01:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

We`ve also done a lot of good.

Wanna list them?




DomYngBlk -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/5/2011 4:51:55 AM)

Well all of Europe and damn near all of Asia. Oceana. Increasingly large hunks of Africa, South America.....




Musicmystery -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/5/2011 5:46:11 AM)

In fact, the U.S. Navy is the reason international shipping is viable.




DarkSteven -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/5/2011 5:48:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP
Tags: HIDDEN HISTORY The unending American quest for supremacy has continued unabated since its first involvement in the affairs of Argentina in 1890.


Isn't that about forty years after we won the Mexican-American war, in which large chunks of what is now the Southern and Western US was claimed as spoils?






pahunkboy -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/5/2011 6:01:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

We`ve also done a lot of good.

Your point is certainly valid, Owner59. US intervention has resulted in positive outcomes in many instances.

However, the same claim is also advanced by the Chinese as one of their reasons to justify their invasion of Tibet. The Chinese claim they 'liberated' Tibet from a medieval theocracy. I don't wish to suggest for a moment that the US is the same as China. But what's good for the goose is also good for the gander......


Some of it was necessary-  but all of it- I tend to doubt.  Good point about the goose and gander.




Real0ne -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/5/2011 6:04:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

We`ve also done a lot of good.

Your point is certainly valid, Owner59. US intervention




who the fuck are you people to judge what is good for me or anyone else




barelynangel -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/5/2011 6:12:12 AM)

Umm maybe i have remembered my history wrong, but isn't history full of the most powerful countries/empires/territories "meddling.?"




Real0ne -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/5/2011 6:20:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Umm maybe i have remembered my history wrong, but isn't history full of the most powerful countries/empires/territories "meddling.?"


there are ancient documents and treaties based on the spoils of war still in effect today underlying the governance of many countries including the US.

Its rarely the people who instigate it or even want it, its always guv's that drag people into it and its always for profit.




Hillwilliam -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/5/2011 6:49:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

We`ve also done a lot of good.

Wanna list them?

Defeat of the Barbary Pirates in the early 19th century.

Embargo of the West African slave trade in the middle of the 19th century are the first 2 that come to mind.




thompsonx -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/5/2011 9:19:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

We`ve also done a lot of good.

Wanna list them?

Defeat of the Barbary Pirates in the early 19th century.

You mean the guys we signed a treaty with only to send the marines to abrogate it?

Embargo of the West African slave trade in the middle of the 19th century are the first 2 that come to mind.

That embargo did not seem to stem the flow of black africans as slaves to the u.s.
How many slave ship captains were arrested,tried,convicted and hanged by the u.s. during this embargo?
You got anything else?






Termyn8or -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/5/2011 9:21:11 AM)

And the point is ?

Hidden my ass.

T^T




thompsonx -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/5/2011 9:22:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Umm maybe i have remembered my history wrong, but isn't history full of the most powerful countries/empires/territories "meddling.?"



So are you saying that this experiment in self government is a failure and we are not something special but nothing more than any other thug nation in the history of bipeds?




thompsonx -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/5/2011 9:25:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

In fact, the U.S. Navy is the reason international shipping is viable.



Is it your point that without the u.s. navy international shipping would cease to function?
I have heard that there are other navies on this planet who might take umbridge if their shipping were to be seriously molested.




thompsonx -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/5/2011 9:27:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

Well all of Europe and damn near all of Asia. Oceana. Increasingly large hunks of Africa, South America.....



You were going to tell us the good that the u.s. has done in these places?????




Hillwilliam -> RE: US meddled in 50 nations over 130 times in 121 years By: ROTP Tags: * HIDDEN HISTORY The unen (5/5/2011 10:12:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

We`ve also done a lot of good.

Wanna list them?

Defeat of the Barbary Pirates in the early 19th century.

You mean the guys we signed a treaty with only to send the marines to abrogate it?

Embargo of the West African slave trade in the middle of the 19th century are the first 2 that come to mind.

That embargo did not seem to stem the flow of black africans as slaves to the u.s.
How many slave ship captains were arrested,tried,convicted and hanged by the u.s. during this embargo?
You got anything else?




Read your history. Importation of slaves into the US was illegal beginning in 1808. As for being arrested, tried, convicted and hung in the US, they didn't bother. They just seized their ships (or shot them out from underneath them)

During the embargo, some captains were desparate enough to put their cargo overboard in small boats so the navy would have to spend all their time rescuing the slaves therein and the boat could excape to smuggle another day.

"American policies on the slave trade were confused and often contradictory. The Federal Government had no authority to act on slavery. It did had the right to act on the slave trade. The U.S. Comgress passed the Slave Trade Act (1819). Congress in the Act gave President James Monroe the authority to use the U.S. Navy to end the slave trade. Congress also approved the creation of Liberia as a place where freed slaves could be returned to Africa. Congress next approved an amendment which equated slave trading with piracy, a stiff provision because piracy was punishable by death."

The Brits were the primary keepers of the embargo but the US Navy kept squadrons off the African coast for this purpose.




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