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LaTigresse -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/9/2011 8:37:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: agirl

I'm the same way......It's not really a choice thing at all, it's just how it's transpired.

I don't *get* men ....but I don't feel I have to or need to.
I don't *get* women, but I feel I ought to or possibly should.

On balance, it's always been far simpler and more beneficial in tons of ways, for me to be surrounded by men/boys/maleness of any stage and age...lol

I'm all for an easy life.

agirl




I agree. It is far easier for ME also. I like that with men, it is all out there. Even here. The good, the bad, and the ugly. I don't have to second guess everything, every word, every nuance.

And I don't have to step a foot inside a shopping centre to maintain a friendship with a guy. But I can occasionally spend a delightful afternoon fishing or rock hounding with one or more guys. Getting silly excited over our catch/find.



WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/9/2011 8:39:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
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ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh
Consider the source. The less than aware person seems to have some really HUGE issues when it comes to being a man and having a major dislike for anyone with tits, a vagina and a functioning brain. Especially when said brain creates thoughts that do not agree with his twisted view of the world at large.

I doubt he falls anywhere near the category of men whose company we enjoy, then men we respect and admire, or in having any sort of sense of humour about himself and the male population at large.

Here we go again - more needless insults even after the issue was dropped last night. As I said before you are the one with issues. Why would one say they enjoy seeing others get attacked and railroaded on this forum? You openly professed enjoyment of said activity. For the rest of what you say - thats complete bullshit. I enjoy the company of women whether intelligent or not. I dislike you and quite frankly judging by your posts on here it doesn't seem as if you have much of said quality. If I'm wrong I do apologise. [:)]

Soooooo, are you saying you are a sock puppet of the less than aware one?

Or are you too dense to understand what I wrote and who I was referring to?

I am sure you do not care that I do not care, whether you like me or not. My pool is quite deep enough, I don't need an overly sensitive putz polluting it.

Oh fuck me. I suck at the quote thingies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe I'm dense but who you were talking about wasn't clear in the post. There was no identifier and some of the remarks sounded quite similar to what you said last night so do excuse the error from this "putz". [;)] Whats all the obsession with sockies? lol BTW I was intelligent enough to correct your quote "thingies" but please no need to thank me! [:D]



VaguelyCurious -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/9/2011 8:41:48 AM)

I know I said I wasn't going to respond, but this is clarification rather than snark, and then once this has been cleared up I'd really appreciate it if you guys would stop.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Consider the source. The less than aware person seems...

(Bold mine.)



LaTigresse -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/9/2011 8:49:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

It cant be me you are referring to. Im not sensitive at all and you dont hurt me. I think you know me better than that.
But that is not an intelligent response that makes a case for your negative attitude.

But perhaps I was wrong as I dont think you take much time trying to get to know the emotional workings of anyone, let alone woman. Of course men are easier when you dont want to connect.



Lushy you really are making an unreasonable stretch. Obviously my words hit a nerve otherwise you wouldn't have bothered posting what you did.

As for the part I bolded.....don't be a fool. I've no idea what you are basing that twattle on, as you and I have not even attempted to make any sort of connection. Aside from the fact that we both have tits and a vagina, we've very little in common. That all being said, you've no measure of how I manage my personal relationships. None, zero, zip.

Now, if you wish to discuss either of the above topics, I suggest you either email me, or create a thread rather than shitting all over VC's thread.



WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/9/2011 8:52:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious
I know I said I wasn't going to respond, but this is clarification rather than snark, and then once this has been cleared up I'd really appreciate it if you guys would stop.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Consider the source. The less than aware person seems...

(Bold mine.)

Fair enough, its a play on words but I thought it could have applied as an insult to moi since I was apparently less than perceptive last night last night. Anyhow I'm outta here cause its spoiling my buzz too. [sm=modxiiswatching.gif]



LaTigresse -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/9/2011 8:55:10 AM)

Another reason to like men........some of them are shorter than me and willing to operate a piece of equipment that I always feel like I am going to pitch head first into. The thing scares the bejesus outta me. If you get off rhythm of it, it will crush your hand.

I have no rhythm...



VaguelyCurious -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/9/2011 9:01:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I have no rhythm...


I'm considering going dancing tonight. Some of the men there have a lot of rhythm... *suggestive eyebrow waggle*



LaTigresse -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/9/2011 9:04:26 AM)

I think this is where I say something like "Goooooooooooooo VC!!! Get down with your bad self!"

I have to admit.......I will never EVER be mistaken for a professional dancer. Generic Dude, my rock hounding buddy, is a total hoot on the dance floor. The man will seriously get jiggy with ANYONE. Wedding receptions are always more fun when he is there.



lusciouslips19 -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/9/2011 9:08:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Another reason to like men........some of them are shorter than me and willing to operate a piece of equipment that I always feel like I am going to pitch head first into. The thing scares the bejesus outta me. If you get off rhythm of it, it will crush your hand.

I have no rhythm...



OMG! So you are a woman!

Men are for heavy lifting!



LaTigresse -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/9/2011 9:15:58 AM)

In person..........no one will mistake me for a man for sure, unless I am purposely in disguise. Which I did do a really good job of one Halloween.

Fortunately running the aforementioned piece of equipment takes no strength.......just being short and having rhythm. Historically (it is over 100 years old )they were often times run by women......just not THIS woman.



lusciouslips19 -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/9/2011 9:23:40 AM)

Dancing with a man is simple. In dance...i take lessons its quite simple. The man leads, the woman follows. Doesnt get much simpler than that. Of course, some men lead better than others. Some are limp and wimpy in their lead, some men are definative and make you look good. But dance is simple. Relationships and all people are layered and dont come with manuals men or women.

I wish I could trust men as much as I trust my women friends. But there are good men out there, I do believe. I do make things difficult sometimes, I know. Women may seem surface just talking about clothes and makeup, but thats only if you dont take the time to scratch the surface. Like me....I may not be as big of a flake as you think I am![;)]



PeonForHer -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/9/2011 9:27:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19
Men are for heavy lifting!


Is that a common belief amongst women where you live? Me, it's rare for me to go out and get lifted up by any women.



LadyHibiscus -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/9/2011 9:42:39 AM)

My fast reply...no, not so much! I have had close male friends in the past. My early mentors when I was a teen were male teachers and counselors. These days, I take men on a case by case basis. I don't miss their company, or seek it out. Sadly, I remain stolidly heterosexual. I am also celibate by choice, so that works.

I am not going to say that men are ebil ebil no-goodniks, or rant against the patriarchy, but GRRRRLS ROOL BOYZ DRROOOOL!

So there :)



lusciouslips19 -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/9/2011 9:49:40 AM)

I somewhat agree, Hibbie. Seems men will lie for a woman's vagay gay. So you may say, "Im only looking for something more meaningful and not a fling. The guy will say, "Me too" and just about anything to get what he wants. Then they wonder why we dont appreciate many of the male species. Some may find them simple. Many times I see them to be the creators of the drama all the while saying they dont like drama.

Not all men are like that but a large number of them are.



LaTigresse -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/9/2011 11:21:42 AM)

I guess I just don't care what they might want.........I already know what they are going to get (or not as the case may be...) and just ignore whatever they might be hoping for. Some, once they realize they are not going to get what they were hoping for, disappear. Others stick around. Whether they keep hoping or not, is irrelevant to me. I create the boundaries. They either live with it or get the hell outta my way.

I am very fortunate to have some really fabulous men and boys in my life. Also very fortunate to have a few really awesome women and girls in it...........but that is not what this thread is about.



agirl -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/9/2011 2:58:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: agirl

I'm the same way......It's not really a choice thing at all, it's just how it's transpired.

I don't *get* men ....but I don't feel I have to or need to.
I don't *get* women, but I feel I ought to or possibly should.

On balance, it's always been far simpler and more beneficial in tons of ways, for me to be surrounded by men/boys/maleness of any stage and age...lol

I'm all for an easy life.

agirl




I agree. It is far easier for ME also. I like that with men, it is all out there. Even here. The good, the bad, and the ugly. I don't have to second guess everything, every word, every nuance.

And I don't have to step a foot inside a shopping centre to maintain a friendship with a guy. But I can occasionally spend a delightful afternoon fishing or rock hounding with one or more guys. Getting silly excited over our catch/find.



I find that men don't care whether they *get* ME, either, they still enjoy being with me and don't overthink it, whereas women haven't been that simple. I have just probably gravitated to the path of least resistance.

If I had needed women in particular, I expect I'd have made more of a sustained effort but as I haven't, I didn't...:)

agirl








CreepyStalker -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/9/2011 7:17:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: CreepyStalker

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Apparently they like men because they're useful.  Character traits are irrelevant.



Well obviously. Men as a whole don't have character traits, individuals do,
  So you're saying women relate to men as a whole, not to individuals.  Handy to know.

In this context yes. Glad I've helped.

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but individual men are not the topic of discussion.
  Really?  So you're saying the original topic was about men as some kind of homogenous, amorphous whole instead of how women relate to them individually.  So the question is more about what do women like about mankind rather than individual men, is it? 

Correct. Well done.


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Because, of course, individual men aren't the slightest bit relevant to a woman's experience of men in general, are they.

Also correct, they're not. Fortunately the majority of women posting here have to common sense to not overgeneralise their view of individuals to the whole group. The whole group is rather large.

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It's at this point, I remember how illogical women are and why I dismiss an awful lot of what they say.

Ah, see there's your problem then, you miss what's going on because you're not paying attention. Have another try: This topic is to say nice things about men in general. Do you like men? What general aspects of men do you think are nice (if any)?


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If it helps, I don't find men very useful at all. 
  Big surprise.  I bet you think you're the first lesbian to say as much.

Nah of course not, in the good ol' days there were loads of man-hating lesbian feminazis wandering around telling men that they're useless and refusing to shave their armpits and spelling womyn with a 'y'. Most people have become all boring and tolerant these days, being a stereotype is so much more satisfying.


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You need to get out more.

Well I took your advice and got out today. I went and spent time with some men, and ended up being in the middle of a three-way spooning cuddlefest.
It was shit. I couldn't see the tv properly.



CreepyStalker -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/9/2011 7:25:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19
Men are for heavy lifting!


Is that a common belief amongst women where you live? Me, it's rare for me to go out and get lifted up by any women.


Really? How strange, round here it's fairly common to see men getting lifted up and carried a few yards down the road before getting put back down, usually in someone else's garden. I've had at least 3 dumped over my fence in the last month, it seems to be a growing problem these days. The ladies responsible claim they're just keeping the place tidy, but I still think it's rather rude of them.



LaTigresse -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/10/2011 4:06:04 AM)

You.........I like!



VaguelyCurious -> RE: Do you actually rather like men? (5/10/2011 4:48:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: CreepyStalker

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19
Men are for heavy lifting!


Is that a common belief amongst women where you live? Me, it's rare for me to go out and get lifted up by any women.


Really? How strange, round here it's fairly common to see men getting lifted up and carried a few yards down the road


Yeah, but that's just lifting - in order for it to be heavy lifting you'd have to be calling Peon fat... [8D]



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