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RE: FORBES: RETURN TO GOLD STANDARD WITHIN 5 YEARS - 5/11/2011 8:08:32 PM   
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the problem here is not the currency or money in and of itself that is the problem. 

The solution is way more simple than that.

The problem is that the crooks basically were out to fuck us.

This country has ALWAYS operated in bankruptcy.

The first was when the king bankrupted us in the revolutionary war.

well guess what, in and about 1850ish they defaulted on the loan.

well the european bankster crooks being the nice guys that they are wrote out more bonds after the fed was able to pledge enough collateral.

well guess what, yep they defaulted again, aint that bitch!  Thank goodness for the new deal!  they got their collateral and everyone was happy once more.

yep you guessed it they defaulted yet again so america had to go hunting for collateral....which brings us to today.  Now thats a real bitch...  lets see how many of you have the proper calculator to add that up LOL

The problem is that money is brought into the system as debt.  you cannot pay a "debt" with a debt.  pretty simple stuff.  People are becoming more constitution conscious and that is really a bitch as well.

Under the constitution and law of the land your labor is your "PROPERTY" and when you trade your labor property for gold property you are trading it for property.  That is called quid pro quo.  some"THING" for some"THING".  and of course that means it is debt FREE AND CLEAR.  paid in full!

When you trade your property for a debt instrument you essentially trading property that belongs to someone else not you.  trading promissory notes in effect that have NO STANDING under the law of the land. 

The monetary policy essentially changed the land scape in this country from absolute paramount owner of property to owner in interest.

You have an "interest" in your property, and yeh you are called an owner but someone has a greater ownership interest in it than you do.  That is the people who hypothecated it.  (STATE).

Now gold standard only really means something for something.  Therefore it can be oil, silver, gold, hardwood, whatever does not matter gold standard is fundamentally "specie".  Hard asset in financial terms.

Anyway I doubt to many people on here will get it, but right now they do not have any choice that I can see for you can only go bankrupt 3 times according to sax law, and then you have to turn it around.  A very good reason to go on the standard of soemthing. 

It will be interesting to see if they turn it around.

and for those who like to read:  MODERN MONEY MECHANICS
that is from the federal reserve bank and you do not need to be a rocket scientist to see the fraud in this.

The root problem is that the money is lent into the economy by a private association called the federal reserve bank.




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RE: FORBES: RETURN TO GOLD STANDARD WITHIN 5 YEARS - 5/11/2011 8:14:25 PM   
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RE: FORBES: RETURN TO GOLD STANDARD WITHIN 5 YEARS - 5/11/2011 8:18:52 PM   
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The problem is you don't understand the difference between currency and money.


actually I do.  I shouldnt but I interchange them.


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RE: FORBES: RETURN TO GOLD STANDARD WITHIN 5 YEARS - 5/11/2011 11:40:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gold has been money for 6000 years, and it wasn't until 1971 that gold "officially" lost its status as a money. Gold isn't some archaic form of currency, the world was using it 40 years ago, and people still use it today. An ounce of gold was worth $35 back in 1971; now it's worth $1500. The central bankers can only steal the average person's purchasing power for so long until the whole phony fiat system collapses. We're not far from it.

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RE: FORBES: RETURN TO GOLD STANDARD WITHIN 5 YEARS - 5/11/2011 11:41:41 PM   
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RE: FORBES: RETURN TO GOLD STANDARD WITHIN 5 YEARS - 5/12/2011 3:46:40 AM   
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RE: FORBES: RETURN TO GOLD STANDARD WITHIN 5 YEARS - 5/12/2011 4:23:34 AM   
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RE: FORBES: RETURN TO GOLD STANDARD WITHIN 5 YEARS - 5/12/2011 5:10:50 AM   
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Oh god, another one. There must be a nest somewhere. 


And the link came from Forbes.  Not PP.    So there ya go.

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RE: FORBES: RETURN TO GOLD STANDARD WITHIN 5 YEARS - 5/12/2011 6:29:40 AM   
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The central bankers can only steal the average person's purchasing power for so long until the whole phony fiat system collapses. We're not far from it.


Another economics class truant.

The central bank keeps inflation low, and it is. Very low.

Gold is just as fiat, and we're not going to collapse. We don't even have causes for the fiat system to collapse.

But then waving your hand and proclaiming doom is much easier than offering any cogent rationale.

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RE: FORBES: RETURN TO GOLD STANDARD WITHIN 5 YEARS - 5/12/2011 6:44:22 AM   
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RE: FORBES: RETURN TO GOLD STANDARD WITHIN 5 YEARS - 5/12/2011 6:54:42 AM   
Musicmystery


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Status: offline 		But inflation isn't 10%.

Not even anywhere close.

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RE: FORBES: RETURN TO GOLD STANDARD WITHIN 5 YEARS - 5/12/2011 7:38:28 AM   
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Oh god, another one. There must be a nest somewhere. 


And the link came from Forbes.  Not PP.    So there ya go.



Forbes, as in Steve Forbes.


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