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SilverMark -> So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 9:06:22 AM)

So far you have Newt(Hold on, I am too busy with my mistress) Gingrich, you have Ron Paul, Tim Pawlenty, no dout soon Mitt(Health Care) Romney, Possibly Donald(I need a new hairpiece) Trump, Herman(anyone want a pizza)Cain. Could be Mitch(If my wife lets me and doesn't run off to marry another guy) Daniels,and there are a few I am unaware of. (Add any you can think of!)
Who takes the nomination?
Any Darkhorse out there?
Can there be a balance between the Teapartiers, the Evangelicals, the tradional Republican party powers?




imperatrixx -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 9:11:53 AM)

Stewart Alexander.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Alexander_(politician)

While it's undecided who is going to be campaigning that Obama's too far left, there's already a face campaigning that he's too far right.




pahunkboy -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 9:12:49 AM)

Wild guess....  Jebb Bush... or some other Bush...




Musicmystery -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 9:15:31 AM)

Hard to say. The party is split into factions, has no real direction now except a desire to win, and no clear leader.

Further, the Republican primary system is set up to coalesce around an early nominee, not necessarily the most popular one ultimately.

Should be interesting to watch the process, though.




BamaD -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 9:16:57 AM)

To far right Karl Marx would't think he was too far right.




imperatrixx -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 9:22:42 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

To far right Karl Marx would't think he was too far right.


Oh, dear. You actually have the right to vote, don't you?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/13/AR2009031301899.html

The funny thing is, of course, that socialists know that Barack Obama is not one of us. Not only is he not a socialist, he may in fact not even be a liberal. Socialists understand him more as a hedge-fund Democrat -- one of a generation of neoliberal politicians firmly committed to free-market policies.

The first clear indication that Obama is not, in fact, a socialist, is the way his administration is avoiding structural changes to the financial system. Nationalization is simply not in the playbook of Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and his team. They favor costly, temporary measures that can easily be dismantled should the economy stabilize. Socialists support nationalization and see it as a means of creating a banking system that acts like a highly regulated public utility. The banks would then cease to be sinkholes for public funds or financial versions of casinos and would become essential to reenergizing productive sectors of the economy.

The same holds true for health care. A national health insurance system as embodied in the single-payer health plan reintroduced in legislation this year by Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.), makes perfect sense to us. That bill would provide comprehensive coverage, offer a full range of choice of doctors and services and eliminate the primary cause of personal bankruptcy -- health-care bills. Obama's plan would do the opposite. By mandating that every person be insured, ObamaCare would give private health insurance companies license to systematically underinsure policyholders while cashing in on the moral currency of universal coverage. If Obama is a socialist, then on health care, he's doing a fairly good job of concealing it.

Issues of war and peace further weaken the commander in chief's socialist credentials. Obama announced that all U.S. combat brigades will be removed from Iraq by August 2010, but he still intends to leave as many as 50,000 troops in Iraq and wishes to expand the war in Afghanistan and Pakistan. A socialist foreign policy would call for the immediate removal of all troops. It would seek to follow the proposal made recently by an Afghan parliamentarian, which called for the United States to send 30,000 scholars or engineers instead of more fighting forces.




MrRodgers -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 9:24:20 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Wild guess....  Jebb Bush... or some other Bush...

Wouldn't get any traction at all. Too soon after W and that sour taste that still lingers.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 9:29:18 AM)

If I had to guess now the ticket would be Romney and Christie, second guess Pawlenty and Christie if Romney cant articulate the very simple difference between Romneycare and Obamacare. He attempted to yesterday, but even Fox didnt understand what he was saying, so he needs to work on it.




DomYngBlk -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 9:42:20 AM)

Who cares. They are all toast. The brotha is going to win anotha




Hillwilliam -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 9:49:03 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Wild guess....  Jebb Bush... or some other Bush...

Wouldn't get any traction at all. Too soon after W and that sour taste that still lingers.


Even Dubya said it was too soon for another Bush to run for the white house about a year ago.




hlen5 -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 9:52:28 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Wild guess....  Jebb Bush... or some other Bush...

Wouldn't get any traction at all. Too soon after W and that sour taste that still lingers.



I don't think of the after effects of W as a sour aftertaste nearly as much as a near fatal bout with salmonella.




Hillwilliam -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 10:06:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

Who cares. They are all toast. The brotha is going to win anotha


Unless the R side comes up with someone REALLY dynamic really fast.... I agree.




dudd -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 10:08:52 AM)

"So, Who will end up ~losing~ against Obama?"


There,I fixed the title of the thread for ya`ll.[:D]




DarkSteven -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 10:11:14 AM)

You left off the Palin/Bachmann twins, although neither has a shot. Also Huntsmam, who I think could mount a serious challenge in the general but couldn't survive the primary.




DomYngBlk -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 10:13:11 AM)

Palin/Bachmann, Bachmann/Palin......quite the sandwich




willbeurdaddy -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 10:15:27 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: dudd

"So, Who will end up ~losing~ against Obama?"


There,I fixed the title of the thread for ya`ll.[:D]


Nobody.




Real0ne -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 10:17:50 AM)

fr


well we had no new taxes, then taxes, then change,

I know NO CHANGE!

thats who is running next




kdsub -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 10:22:03 AM)

Bobby Jindal could be a dark horse...If not for President then imagine the draw and contrast to Obama as a vp candidate.

Butch




mnottertail -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 10:39:14 AM)

Bobby Jindal is in the process of flooding his own state.   I don't think thats gonna get him alotta girls at the dance. Not that he was gonna before.




MrRodgers -> RE: So, Who will end up running against Obama? (5/13/2011 11:10:02 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: imperatrixx
quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

To far right Karl Marx would't think he was too far right.

Oh, dear. You actually have the right to vote, don't you?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/13/AR2009031301899.html

The funny thing is, of course, that socialists know that Barack Obama is not one of us. Not only is he not a socialist, he may in fact not even be a liberal. Socialists understand him more as a hedge-fund Democrat -- one of a generation of neoliberal politicians firmly committed to free-market policies.

The first clear indication that Obama is not, in fact, a socialist, is the way his administration is avoiding structural changes to the financial system. Nationalization is simply not in the playbook of Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and his team. They favor costly, temporary measures that can easily be dismantled should the economy stabilize. Socialists support nationalization and see it as a means of creating a banking system that acts like a highly regulated public utility. The banks would then cease to be sinkholes for public funds or financial versions of casinos and would become essential to reenergizing productive sectors of the economy.

The same holds true for health care. A national health insurance system as embodied in the single-payer health plan reintroduced in legislation this year by Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.), makes perfect sense to us. That bill would provide comprehensive coverage, offer a full range of choice of doctors and services and eliminate the primary cause of personal bankruptcy -- health-care bills. Obama's plan would do the opposite. By mandating that every person be insured, ObamaCare would give private health insurance companies license to systematically underinsure policyholders while cashing in on the moral currency of universal coverage. If Obama is a socialist, then on health care, he's doing a fairly good job of concealing it.

Issues of war and peace further weaken the commander in chief's socialist credentials. Obama announced that all U.S. combat brigades will be removed from Iraq by August 2010, but he still intends to leave as many as 50,000 troops in Iraq and wishes to expand the war in Afghanistan and Pakistan. A socialist foreign policy would call for the immediate removal of all troops. It would seek to follow the proposal made recently by an Afghan parliamentarian, which called for the United States to send 30,000 scholars or engineers instead of more fighting forces.

Hardly a socialist and the word is meant to scare people away but few look at the facts. This is based on the premise that most people really don't know what socialism is...and that would be correct even as reflected just on this board.




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