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mnottertail -> Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 6:40:54 AM)
Flooding the folks who were prudent, in favor of the cities built below water level? Isn't this socialism? Isn't this pandering to a subsection of voters and excluding all others? Isn't this a bailout, saving the homes of the people who couldn't really afford to build or buy there and putting it on the backs of those who did not overreach? Isn't this government interference in an indivduals level at a very intimate level? Isn't this like universal healthcare? What right or privilege do these people have? Doesn't this add salinity to the land making it unusable or less productive for a long long time? --------------------- Unintended consequences. You framed the debate in terms of this. Defend your socialist, hypocritical, government interfering in individual rights party.

rulemylife -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 6:51:39 AM)
What did you expect from a guy who chose to nickname himself after a Brady Bunch character?

mnottertail -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 6:59:07 AM)
Hey, rml, don't shoot the messenger and attack the logic and reason of the left just because you have nothing to defend the socialist meddling interfering hypocritical ideas of the right with. Jindal Brady.

luckydawg -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 6:59:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Flooding the folks who were prudent, in favor of the cities built below water level? Jibberish sentance fragment , that isn't a question. Isn't this socialism? Nope, apperantly you also have no idea what the defintion of socialism is. Isn't this pandering to a subsection of voters and excluding all others? Nope, it is responding to the needs of the greater society (vast majority), and does not exclude all others, even the rural folks get benefitds from the functioning cities and tax base there. Isn't this a bailout, saving the homes of the people who couldn't really afford to build or buy there and putting it on the backs of those who did not overreach? Nope. It is saving the tax base which will help everyone in the region. Isn't this government interference in an indivduals level at a very intimate level? Nope, it is macro policy, not intimate. Isn't this like universal healthcare? What right or privilege do these people have? Not universal at all. why would you think that that it is? Doesn't this add salinity to the land making it unusable or less productive for a long long time? Nope, while it might add a slight salinity, these lands have been flooded hundreds of times, and not made un productive. --------------------- Unintended consequences. You framed the debate in terms of this. Defend your socialist, hypocritical, government interfering in individual rights party. Defend what? Everything you said was nonsense.

rulemylife -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 7:01:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Hey, rml, don't shoot the messenger and attack the logic and reason of the left just because you have nothing to defend the socialist meddling interfering hypocritical ideas of the right with. Jindal Brady. Piyush Brady.

mnottertail -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 7:02:18 AM)
What was nonsense, he didn't do it? What was nonsense, how does it differ from the cast of debate out here on the issues of rthe rabid right? Don't attack the messenger because you got caught, and your jingles will be laughed at from this point on. Because those are the jingles of the rabid right applied in like fashion and with equal applicability to the situation.

rulemylife -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 7:04:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: luckydawg quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Flooding the folks who were prudent, in favor of the cities built below water level? Jibberish sentance fragment , that isn't a question. Isn't this socialism? Nope, apperantly you also have no idea what the defintion of socialism is. Isn't this pandering to a subsection of voters and excluding all others? Nope, it is responding to the needs of the greater society (vast majority), and does not exclude all others, even the rural folks get benefitds from the functioning cities and tax base there. Isn't this a bailout, saving the homes of the people who couldn't really afford to build or buy there and putting it on the backs of those who did not overreach? Nope. It is saving the tax base which will help everyone in the region. Isn't this government interference in an indivduals level at a very intimate level? Nope, it is macro policy, not intimate. Isn't this like universal healthcare? What right or privilege do these people have? Not universal at all. why would you think that that it is? Doesn't this add salinity to the land making it unusable or less productive for a long long time? Nope, while it might add a slight salinity, these lands have been flooded hundreds of times, and not made un productive. --------------------- Unintended consequences. You framed the debate in terms of this. Defend your socialist, hypocritical, government interfering in individual rights party. Defend what? Everything you said was nonsense. Puppydawg, are you ever going to manage to figure out how to use the quote feature?

luckydawg -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 7:07:07 AM)
I already explained why every part of your allegation was nonsense, down to the jibberish fragments. Plus the fact that the Army Corp of Engineers is a FEDERAL not a state agency. Its not Jindals decision. Its the Feds. Your OP is utter jibberish. Obama is doing the right thing this time.

mnottertail -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 7:12:20 AM)
Wrongo uck. The federal government did not command this. It is a fuckin state issue. Jindal commanded it. You explained nothing. And you are seriously misinformed if not outright prevaricating. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110510/us_ac/8449929_louisiana_gov_bobby_jindal_authorizes_opening_of_morganza_spillway

Owner59 -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 7:16:13 AM)
The hypocrisy part is spot on. Is Jindal for or against the program? If he`w agen-it,he`s a consistent conservative(rare). If`n he`s-a fer it,he`s just another big government high tax and spend neo-con hypocrite(typical).

luckydawg -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 7:21:03 AM)
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal held a news conference this morning to announce the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has requested the opening of the floodgates of the Morganza Spillway, which will allow water from the Mississippi to flood farms and residential areas in the Atchafalaya Basin. This controlled flooding will hopefully spare more heavily-populated areas like New Orleans and the state's capital of Baton Rouge from receiving too much damage. The Levees are Federal. Feds, Jindal is complying with the Feds request. Properly, I will add.

mnottertail -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 7:28:12 AM)
No, that is specious asswipe. They requested (according to him, and him only), but he commanded. He should have said no, the interference by the government will cause massive damage to the farmers in the area, and the folks who bought in the floodplain have a wonderful insurance system that will take care of them. To give aid to the many on the backs of the lucky and prudent and good stewards of society is called socialism.

rulemylife -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 7:31:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: luckydawg I already explained why every part of your allegation was nonsense, down to the jibberish fragments. Plus the fact that the Army Corp of Engineers is a FEDERAL not a state agency. Its not Jindals decision. Its the Feds. Your OP is utter jibberish. Obama is doing the right thing this time. So let me ask you something. How does complaining about federal government intervention as Piyush did get reconciled with begging for federal government help after the oil spill? And how does it get reconciled with what is happening now? I guess it must only be the evils of socialism and the evils of the federal government until you need the help yourself.

Real0ne -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 7:50:36 AM)
what was the right way to handle it IYO

TheHeretic -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 8:45:10 AM)
What the fuck are you on about, Ron? The Mississippi is coming, and you want to quibble about ideological purity?

mnottertail -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 8:52:40 AM)
Oh, I dunno Rich, invasion of a country under false pretenses, our nations blood and treasure decimated, and you want to take milk from babies, defund NPR, and let corporations destroy america and give them more money to do it based on ideological purity? I guess it is a horse apiece. It is only valid ideological purity the way you boys do it, huh? Point is, you run from ideology only when your pants are on fire, otherwise it is fuck em, I got mine......... Cuz I used your common and constant arguments here, deftly applied.

kdsub -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 9:00:14 AM)
If you don't give lip service and agree with the Corps of Engineers they take you to court and do it anyway. To save a town in Illinois the Corps decided to blow a 2 mile hole in a Missouri levee flooding 130,00 acres of farm land and 100 homes. Our Missouri governor said no… the Corps and the states of Illinois took the case to the Supreme court , how the hell did they do that so fast, and they blew the levee. So you can say what you want but the Corps will get it’s way like it or not. Butch

Real0ne -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 9:02:30 AM)
I think what everyone is waiting to hear is how ron would have handled it differently

kdsub -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 9:05:52 AM)
I think he has little choice...save the most lives and limit the most damage...There is no ideology in that decision just common sense. His true test in leadership will be in the aftermath...How he handles the recovery. Butch

TheHeretic -> RE: Jindal: Socialist and Hypocrisy of the Right (5/14/2011 9:07:38 AM)
My arguments, Ron? Really? I think you must have me confused with somebody's strawman collection.

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