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I'd say that you don't understand what scientific proof is. Tobacco companies had scientist on their payroll that claimed there was no correlation between cigarette smoking and cancer. Does that mean it was scientifically proved? No it does not.

You can say anything you wish. "scientific proof" was placed in quotation marks for a reason.

And your tobacco example is perfect. For decades those companies did a song and danc with their "scientific proof" all the while knowing and hiding the truth.

At the time before Civil Rights, these "scientific proofs" were being passed around as "science". Then another "scientific proof" came along to discount those.... then another set came around to discount those...

Science doesnt have the answers, it keeps changing its "mind", its theories keep changing, new discoveries discount old. And yet you insist that people should "trust" in science and only that. Science is so full of infighting ...lol... No proof, therefore it doesnt exist. I might believe that .... but, just like science, I might not.

I also noticed you didnt address scientific racism. Interesting.

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I did address scientific racism. That's what the tobacco company scientist example was about. How did you not get that?

Anyway, my main point is that believing in the supernatural is slowly going the way of the dinosaur. You can believe that there is a spirit that lives in everything and some day you will be part of that spirit (whatever that means) if it makes you FEEL better. Or, you can believe that a being lives in the sky, I don't care. The more people are educated, and the more their thinking evolves, less and less people have the need to hold on to stone age concepts of how the world works.

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Anyway, my main point is that believing in the supernatural is slowly going the way of the dinosaur.

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I did address scientific racism. That's what the tobacco company scientist example was about. How did you not get that?

Anyway, my main point is that believing in the supernatural is slowly going the way of the dinosaur. You can believe that there is a spirit that lives in everything and some day you will be part of that spirit (whatever that means) if it makes you FEEL better. Or, you can believe that a being lives in the sky, I don't care. The more people are educated, and the more their thinking evolves, less and less people have the need to hold on to stone age concepts of how the world works.

Big tobacco was employing scientific racism? I gotta here how!

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Anyway, my main point is that believing in the supernatural is slowly going the way of the dinosaur.

Hmmm.. so we no longer should believe in dinosaurs either?

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Now, tell me, do current Vampires claim to be "undead"?

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Lesson 2 - The dinosaurs went extinct. Believing in the supernatural is going extinct.

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Now, tell me, do current Vampires claim to be "undead"?

None of the ones I know do if that helps[:)]

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Now, tell me, do current Vampires claim to be "undead"?

None of the ones I know do if that helps[:)]

lol.... nothing I have looked up on line in reference to modern day vampires claim they are undead either.

Guess some people are still living in the dark ages with the dinosaurs.

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Now, tell me, do current Vampires claim to be "undead"?

None of the ones I know do if that helps[:)]

lol.... nothing I have looked up on line in reference to modern day vampires claim they are undead either.

Guess some people are still living in the dark ages with the dinosaurs.

The dinosaurs were around during the dark ages? That's a new one.

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The more people are educated, and the more their thinking evolves, less and less people have the need to hold on to stone age concepts of how the world works.

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LOL.. avoidance... you try to be good at that.

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I'm trying to figure out when being an atheist meant someone could not believe in things like vampires or an afterlife? After all, atheism excludes the belief in god or gods... it says nothing about vampires, werewolves, or even an afterlife.

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I'm trying to figure out when being an atheist meant someone could not believe in things like vampires or an afterlife? After all, atheism excludes the belief in god or gods... it says nothing about vampires, werewolves, or even an afterlife.

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I'm trying to figure out when being an atheist meant someone could not believe in things like vampires or an afterlife? After all, atheism excludes the belief in god or gods... it says nothing about vampires, werewolves, or even an afterlife.

I so would understand if you wish to avoid that. I certainly could not blame you.

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And Buddhism?

I mean, come on, you fells can split hairs all day long. The fact is that atheism has never once stated you cannot believe in an afterlife, or anything else... just that god or gods dont exist.

So, to state that someone believes in an afterlife is delusional, or that someone believes in vampires is delusional, is wrong in both cases. Buddists do believe in reincarnation, they do not recognize the belief in god or gods.

What my whole point here has been about is that some people charge in proclaiming this or that to be true, and this or that to be false, based upon nothing more than their own ignorance, never bothering to get to know the facts, never once opening their minds to even the possibility. Just as close minded as you fellas accuse religion of being.

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OK, I chose the vampire example because I thought that most intelligent people in the 21st century would not believe in vampires. I never thought that I would have to have a debate about the existence of vampires! You can't be this obtuse.

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Give me some facts and I will consider them.

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OK, I chose the vampire example because I thought that most intelligent people in the 21st century would not believe in vampires. I never thought that I would have to have a debate about the existence of vampires! You can't be this obtuse.

And I have given my proof. The fact that you avoid that as well is very telling. No, what you thought you could do is come in, snowball everyone, then smile as you pat yourself on the back. I just dont happen to believe in your bullshit.