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joether -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 11:04:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: nighthawk3569 *Impeaching Clinton for sexual acts was wrong...impeaching him for lying to the American people, under oath, was very correct.* Nation Building Bush and WMDs Clinton lied over getting a blowjob from some jewish intern; Bush 's lies have killed thousands of our soldiers, injured eight times that of the dead, and turned a $2 Trillion debt into $11.4 Trillion in eight years. Why do we not see a single conservative, holding Republicans fully accountable? If you actually studied the Clinton Impeachment history, Congress brought four articles of impeachment for the vote. Two of them succeeded and two failed. So Republicans went back, and simply added the contains of the two articles that failed, into the two that succeeded and charge him as if all four had succeeded on their own. How honest was that impeachment? Oh, and was the Speaker of the House at the time being 100% faithful to his wife? How about all the other Republicans?

SternSkipper -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 11:11:43 AM)
quote: Not when they speak out on morality and cutting womens health programs and birth control choices. Nope RIGHT... Lest we forget the 95 and 2k campaigns where they set "Character" as a key issue. Now in the fullness of time and after a near constant stream of failures in that regard the kids from the republican schoolyard again want to change the rules. Personally, I think they just keep switching Dommes till the find the one that can get the arm in far enough.

thishereboi -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 1:00:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ctually the thread is about 2 men who apparently represent the whole republican party. I find this very amusing. People have said that they would have been ok with the way Newt treated his wife, if he hadn't been picking on Clinton at the same time. Now I am not sure why it would be ok in either case, but I am conservative, so maybe a liberal can explain it to me. I never said I would have been ok with how Newt treated his wife. The man is a fucking pig. I wouldn't have made it political if the pig had kept to his own mud pit and had not started declaring other mud pits foul. Sorry, I must have misunderstood this post then... quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl I wouldn't have a problem with Newt and his interactions with his wives if he had kept his sanctimonious nose out of Clinton's marriage. Newt set the "bar" for standards, then failed his own standards. I was under the impression if you don't have a problem with something, you think it's ok. I guess you meant something else?

tazzygirl -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 1:08:11 PM)
Politically... this is a political board, boi.

thishereboi -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 1:08:37 PM)
quote: Lets say I start publicly derailing you as sick, perverted, immoral and evil incarnate because you are into BDSM. I get that on a regular basis because I am republican, christian and homosexual. But you left out racist, homophobic and ignorant. Why not add BDSM to the list. As to the hypocrisy making it worse. I knew a guy who went to a pro because his wife was dying and he couldn't wait the 6 months for her to die before he got laid. Never mind hanging around the house to help his 3 kids deal with losing their mother. After all he wanted to play. I don't see him as being any better because he didn't go around preaching about family values. They both cheated and are both pond scum as far as I am concerned.

mnottertail -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 1:17:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi I get that on a regular basis because I am republican, christian and homosexual. But you left out racist, homophobic and ignorant. I haven't really seen you posting racist comments, and I am floored to find out you are homophobic given your circumstance. [:D] But, hey......You said it kiddo, not me. LOL. (that gripping conundrum of sentence structure, hah?)

Lucylastic -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 1:21:00 PM)
The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they need more supervision.”

thishereboi -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 1:23:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi I get that on a regular basis because I am republican, christian and homosexual. But you left out racist, homophobic and ignorant. I haven't really seen you posting racist comments, and I am floored to find out you are homophobic given your circumstance. [:D] But, hey......You said it kiddo, not me. LOL. (that gripping conundrum of sentence structure, hah?) Now you sound like my ex. She was an english major, but I love her anyway[8D]

ebonywarqueen -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 1:24:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi I get that on a regular basis because I am republican, christian and homosexual. But you left out racist, homophobic and ignorant. Why not add BDSM to the list. As do we all get that for whoever and whatever we are. If you think there is nothing wrong with lying and hypocrisy that is fine. To each his own. I just think to err is human and holding yourself up to be "God's chosen" knowing full well you are doing the same thing you condemn others for is worse and I backed that up with Bible scripture because I too am Christian. I also think the preachers who build ministries around anti-gay sermons while living as closet homosexuals are more wrong than anything they preach against. Not because they are gay but because they are liars and hypocrites. And as for your analogy they may both be pond scum but at least they are not trying to get elected to office BASED ON FAMILY VALUES. That would indeed be worse than what they both did.

thishereboi -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 1:24:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they need more supervision.” I always liked that one

Lucylastic -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 1:24:59 PM)
HEH Me tooo

thishereboi -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 1:25:19 PM)
quote: If you think there is nothing wrong with lying and hypocrisy that is fine. Don't put words in my mouth. I never said that.

mnottertail -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 1:26:44 PM)
Yeah, she gets enough shit for what she DOES say. (I got a million of em, folks)

Sanity -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 1:38:32 PM)
FR quote: "After leaving the governor's office I told my wife about this event, which occurred over a decade ago," Schwarzenegger told the Times on Monday in a statement that was later sent to The Associated Press. "I understand and deserve the feelings of anger and disappointment among my friends and family. There are no excuses and I take full responsibility for the hurt I have caused. I have apologized to Maria, my children and my family. I am truly sorry. "I ask that the media respect my wife and children through this extremely difficult time," the statement concluded. "While I deserve your attention and criticism, my family does not." Read more: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/05/17/1651687/schwarzenegger-reveals-he-had.html#storylink=omni_popular#ixzz1Me0E9EvC

farglebargle -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 2:10:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife Newt Gingrich urges talk about his personal failings DUBUQUE, Iowa – Republican presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich says he has sought God's forgiveness for his personal failings and hopes that evangelical voters take time to talk to him about his two divorces and his affair with the woman who is now his third wife. How about his current affair with the woman who will be his fourth wife?

tazzygirl -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 2:26:58 PM)
That man would definitely be poly if he could get enough women to agree... and could figure out how to make it spin politically.

rulemylife -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 2:45:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania I do not think that Schwarzenegger campaigned on family values, if he had, my opinion would be far different. Schwarzenegger's family values - Republican Party - Salon.com That's mighty nice of him -- a sense of duty reflected over 10 years ago, when his child was likely an infant, and the then-action star discussed what he referred to as "the parenting problem" with Salon. "The parents are the single most important influence on a child, followed by education and the peer group," he told Christina Valhouli. "The number of single parents in the U.S. has quadrupled since the '60s, and there has also been an increase in violence and school shootings. All that stuff has increased largely because of a lack of parenting, and many households only have one biological parent -- so many of them are fatherless. It really creates a big problem."

rulemylife -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 2:51:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity FR quote: "After leaving the governor's office I told my wife about this event, which occurred over a decade ago," Schwarzenegger told the Times on Monday in a statement that was later sent to The Associated Press. "I understand and deserve the feelings of anger and disappointment among my friends and family. There are no excuses and I take full responsibility for the hurt I have caused. I have apologized to Maria, my children and my family. I am truly sorry. "I ask that the media respect my wife and children through this extremely difficult time," the statement concluded. "While I deserve your attention and criticism, my family does not." Read more: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/05/17/1651687/schwarzenegger-reveals-he-had.html#storylink=omni_popular#ixzz1Me0E9EvC Is there a point here? Are you trying to suggest that his admittance of his unfaithfulness has gained him redemption?

rulemylife -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 2:55:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Why does Sanity want his cock? Because he won't come out of the closet. Tom Cruise Won't Come Out of The Closet

juliaoceania -> RE: The Republican Party "family values" (5/17/2011 2:56:18 PM)
I think many people would agree with him, even single parent people. Of course it is ideal for a child to have more than just one care giver. I do not think that it has to be the biological father, mind you, but I definitely think that kids who come from an environment with multiple loving adults are better off (grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc etc etc). Unfortunately, the problem for single parents is more economic than anything else.... I would disagree that single-parent families produce little psychos that shoot up schools. I do not know what the stats are, but many of those kids that blow away several people have two parents. Just something i noticed.

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