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Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of her o... - 5/17/2011 8:00:25 AM   
FatDomDaddy


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"Pelosi’s district’s waivers are the first major examples of luxurious, gourmet restaurants and hotels getting a year-long pass from Obamacare."


http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/17/nearly-20-percent-of-new-obamacare-waivers-are-gourmet-restaurants-nightclubs-fancy-hotels-in-nancy-pelosi%E2%80%99s-district/



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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 8:06:28 AM   
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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 8:25:39 AM   
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"The waivers are about ensuring and protecting the coverage that people have until there are better options available to them in 2014," when the health law is fully implemented, "
We want to ensure that in the time that it takes to implement the law and to give people better options, that they don't find themselves at the mercy of an insurance company jacking up their rates." The WHite House
There will be complete state waivers as well http://pnhp.org/blog/2011/03/02/state-health-law-waivers-where-will-they-take-us/

It is based on coverage and costs and controlled by HHS, not Nancy Pelosi, FDD you can even apply as an individual if you wish!





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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 10:19:57 AM   
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There reasons for everything....

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Yeah. In this case the reason is because the law is an unworkable piece of shit that wont do a thing to control health care costs.

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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 10:25:15 AM   
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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 10:26:24 AM   
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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 10:29:45 AM   
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http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/17/gov-sarah-palin-on-pelosi-districts-obamacare-waivers-seriously-this-is-corrupt/

Better listen to Sarah she just got a copy of Rosetta Stone : ENGLISH

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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 10:31:56 AM   
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There reasons for everything....



Yeah. In this case the reason is because the law is an unworkable piece of shit that wont do a thing to control health care costs.


Actually it has been and will do, a lot of things to help ease the burden created by the health care industry. If your so unhappy about it willbe, why dont you work on improving the Affordable Care Care for all Americans instead of voting Republican....

Have you even bothered to read the Affordable Care Act from cover to cover?

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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 10:32:39 AM   
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In order to avoid disruption in the insurance market, the healthcare overhaul gives HHS the power to grant waivers to firms that cannot meet new annual coverage limits in 2011. The waivers have typically been granted to so-called "mini-med" plans that offer limited annual coverage — as low as $2,000 — that would fall short of meeting the new annual coverage floor of $750,000 in 2011.

About 2.6 million people are covered by the waivers, representing less than 2 percent of privately insured individuals, according to HHS.


http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/147715-number-of-healthcare-reform-law-waivers-climbs-above-1000/

Cant you boys find something else to bitch about? Or do you also want to see that 2% without coverage as well. Is that your aim?

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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 10:43:46 AM   
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In order to avoid disruption in the insurance market, the healthcare overhaul gives HHS the power to grant waivers to firms that cannot meet new annual coverage limits in 2011. The waivers have typically been granted to so-called "mini-med" plans that offer limited annual coverage — as low as $2,000 — that would fall short of meeting the new annual coverage floor of $750,000 in 2011.

About 2.6 million people are covered by the waivers, representing less than 2 percent of privately insured individuals, according to HHS.


http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/147715-number-of-healthcare-reform-law-waivers-climbs-above-1000/

Cant you boys find something else to bitch about? Or do you also want to see that 2% without coverage as well. Is that your aim?


That does seem to explain the reasoning behind the waivers. Its comical to read the conservatives, rant and rave about something they still dont understand. According to the OP, 38 waivers of the 1040 issued (that's a 3% failure rate) are being waved around, like some sort of justification that the whole of the ACA is a total failure. The length and depth conservatives will go to to justify total bullshit is simply laughable.

And they should be laughed at, as they STILL don't have a solid arguement.

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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 10:59:46 AM   
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The reason the Republicans have been trying to do everything they can to misdirect, repeal, reform, unfund, and derail "obamacare" is because they know that every time a new provision of it is implemented that it will become popular with the American people. It is like Social Security, it is entrenched, it is popular, and people want it to continue...

The more benefit the average person gets from healthcare reform, the more popular it will become....in fact, if it is successful enough, it might morph into Medicare for Everyone... and that is exactly what the insurance industry is fighting. They want to continue to force us to pay highway robbery prices for substandard care so they can suck the life out of this country one citizen at a time. The insurance industry adds no value to our medical system, all they do is take resources from what could be used to deliver care, extending the life and improving the quality of it.

Edited to add, if Obama is smart, his reelection team will encourage the use of the term "Obamacare", because it is actually a selling point for his reelection campaign

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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 1:10:39 PM   
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Most requests for waivers have been accepted, but dozens have been denied because they "did not demonstrate that compliance with the minimum annual limits requirements would significantly increase premiums or decrease access to benefits," an HHS spokeswoman told The Hill in January.

The waivers are meant as a stopgap measure until new state-run insurance exchanges open in 2014. Annual dollar limits will also be abolished by then.

Something else they dont want anyone to know.

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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 1:51:56 PM   
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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 2:48:52 PM   
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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 2:50:28 PM   
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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 2:59:03 PM   
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Lets take McDonald's, since its one of the largest companies to get a waiver.

The waiver is good for a year, and they can reapply each year until 2014, which is when the states are supposed to have their state insurance set up.

Now, McDonald's employees many people. They also pay those many people minimum wage. The mini-insurance plans McDonald's offers wont cover much, and there is typically a $2000 cap on what they pay... but it will get their employees into a Drs office to be seen.

Why on earth would anyone complain about a company who is keeping their employees covered by a simple waiver? Shall we add another 2,3, 4 percent to those who have no coverage at all?

Day One insurance... which is what many of these people have, costs about an hour or two of wages per person a week, and thats just for an individual plan. That may not be alot for a pencil pusher or an IT guy or someone in the medical field... but thats alot of money to someone who is only working 20 hours a week at minimum.

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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 3:03:24 PM   
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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 3:06:06 PM   
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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 3:10:24 PM   
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Mcdonald's employees were covered before Obama care. After the bill was signed, they now need a waiver to continue. That law is a joke.

They need a waiver because the plan they offer is no longer allowed (it is too little coverage). Giving the waiver allows the employees to stay partially insured until they can get real iinsurance in 2014. Seems a reasonable step to cover the implementation period of the ACA.

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RE: Well who's says Nancy Pelosi doesn't take care of h... - 5/17/2011 3:32:21 PM   
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