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xssve -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 4:02:11 PM)

Sex is mostly in your head, but it's not all in your head - a great deal of it is in your endocrine system.




maybemaybenot -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 4:02:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

The average age of entry into prostitution is 13 years (M.H. Silbert and A.M. Pines, 1982, "Victimization of street prostitutes, Victimology: An International Journal, 7: 122-133) or 14 years (D.Kelly Weisberg, 1985, Children of the Night: A Study of Adolescent Prostitution, Lexington, Mass, Toronto). Most of these 13 or 14 year old girls were recruited or coerced into prostitution. Others were "traditional wives" without job skills who escaped from or were abandoned by abusive husbands and went into prostitution to support themselves and their children. (Denise Gamache and Evelina Giobbe, Prostitution: Oppression Disguised as Liberation, National Coalition against Domestic Violence, 1990)

Estimates of the prevalence of incest among prostitutes range from 65% to 90%. The Council for Prostitution Alternatives, Portland, Oregon Annual Report in 1991 stated that: 85% of prostitute/clients reported history of sexual abuse in childhood; 70% reported incest. The higher percentages (80%-90%) of reports of incest and childhood sexual assaults of prostitutes come from anecdotal reports and from clinicians working with prostitutes (interviews with Nevada psychologists cited by Patricia Murphy, Making the Connections: women, work, and abuse, 1993, Paul M. Deutsch Press, Orlando, Florida; see also Rita Belton, "Prostitution as Traumatic Reenactment," 1992, International Society for Traumatic Stress Annual Meeting, Los Angeles, CA M.H. Silbert and A.M. Pines, 1982, "Victimization of street prostitutes," Victimology: An International Journal, 7: 122-133; C. Bagley and L Young, 1987, "Juvenile Prostitution and child sexual abuse: a controlled study," Canadian Journal of Community Mental Health, Vol 6: 5-26.)

http://www.rapeis.org/activism/prostitution/prostitutionfacts.html




I didn't dispute your info. I said that the drug addiction and incest/molestation can and do overlap each other.

The numbers vary but this is one site I am familiar with and they report the incidence of drug abuse among prostitutes at 75%. VeronicasVoice doesn't give numbers but reports that drug abuse is high among prostitutes.

http://www.saveexploitedwomen.org/statistics

Count me in as one who is in favor of legalizing prostitution.

mbmbn




tazzygirl -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 4:13:08 PM)

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Semen is produced in the prostate in little sacs like clusters of grapes - alveoli, just like the lungs - too much builds up and those little alveoli burst open and get infected, eventually becoming abscessed. Because it's internal, and because the process is continual - the prostate keeps producing semen, antibiotics have only limited effectiveness, unless the semen is drained, the alveoli continue to burst, causing he infection to spread.


What you described is called Protatitis. Helps that I worked for a nephrologist.

How the prostate becomes infected is not clear. The bacteria that cause prostatitis may get into the prostate from the urethra by backward flow of infected urine or stool from the rectum.

At one time, prostatitis was believed to be a sexually transmitted disease, but more recent research suggests that only a small number of cases are passed on through sex.

Certain conditions and medical procedures increase the risk of developing prostatitis. You are at higher risk for getting prostatitis if you:

Recently have had a medical instrument, such as a urinary catheter (a soft, lubricated tube used to drain urine from the bladder) inserted during a medical procedure
Engage in rectal intercourse
Have an abnormal urinary tract
Have had a recent bladder infection
Have an enlarged prostate
Other causes may include autoimmune disease (an abnormal reaction of the body to the prostate tissue).


http://men.webmd.com/prostatitis?page=2

A fourth theory, based on the fact that prostatitis was once known as the monk's disease, is that a sudden reduction in the average number of ejaculations per time period or a complete stoppage of ejaculations can lead to "old" prostatic secretions hardening and forming clogs. As monks were also prone to long vigils the reflux theory may also have some support here. Recent information is that new recruits into the armed forces are prone to prostatitis. Whether this is because the sudden enforced celibacy and lack of privacy (making masturbation difficult) causes the problem or whether the sudden opportunity to "visit ladies of the evening" when given a pass into town increases the chance of infection is not known.

http://prostatitis.org/prosfaq.html

You may want to find another Dr.




xssve -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 4:16:49 PM)

I'll take his word for it over yours, thanks anyway.

And what was the recommended treatment, BTW?




tazzygirl -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 4:19:33 PM)

Treatments can include:

Anti-inflammatory medicines along with warm sitz baths (sitting in two to three inches of warm water). This is the most conservative treatment for chronic prostatitis.
Antibiotic medicine for infectious prostatitis. These drugs are not effective treatments for noninfectious prostatitis. For acute infectious prostatitis, patients usually need to take antibiotic medicine for 14 days. Almost all acute infections can be cured with this treatment.
For chronic infectious prostatitis, antibiotic medicine is taken for a longer period of time, usually four to 12 weeks. About 75% of all cases of chronic infectious prostatitis clear up with this treatment. For cases that don't, taking antibiotics at a low dose for a long time may be recommended to relieve the symptoms.
Pain medications.
Muscle relaxants.
Surgical removal of the infected portions of the prostate. A doctor may advise this treatment for severe cases of chronic prostatitis or for men whose swollen prostate is blocking the flow of urine.
Supportive therapies for chronic prostatitis, including stool softeners and prostate massage.

http://men.webmd.com/prostatitis?page=2

Prostatitis is an infection, caused by bacteria.. not from an over accumulation of sperm. You do realize the body reabsorbs that, yes?




xssve -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 4:59:27 PM)

You're still talking about sperm you know, I never said a word about sperm - argue with what I said, not what you imagine I said, it's right there in Black and White.




tazzygirl -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 5:01:11 PM)

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Semen is produced in the prostate in little sacs like clusters of grapes - alveoli, just like the lungs - too much builds up and those little alveoli burst open and get infected,


Sorry, science does not back up your statement.




xssve -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 5:03:24 PM)

And, you are conceding the point, just arguing about the mechanism, and failed to list the most frequently recommended treatment.






xssve -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 5:15:42 PM)

Anyway, I hope that at least partially addresses the second half of the question asked in the thread title, but just to reiterate, modern humans have been around for at least 200,000 years, pants only around 40,000.

Give us another couple of Hundred Thousand years to get used to them.




tazzygirl -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 5:25:54 PM)

First, I didn't fail to list anything.

Second, the body reabsorbs sperm that isn't discarded.

Third, a busted blood vessel in the prostate can occur with a normal ejaculation.

Fourth, the prostate produces only 25 - 30% of the seminal fluid.

Your link is to a google search for prostate cancer, which is not what we are discussing, nor does any of those sites indicate that frequent ejaculation prevents prostate enlargement or cancer

Is there any research to support the theory that frequent ejaculation or sex reduces the risk of prostate cancer?

Answer
from Erik Castle, M.D.

The incidence and risk of prostate cancer has been looked at in many populations, including men who've had vasectomies and those who may or may not be sexually active. Epidemiologic studies have suggested that men with a higher frequency of ejaculations may have a slightly lower risk of prostate cancer. However, this difference appears to be very small and is very difficult to accurately study.

At this time, there is no conclusive evidence to suggest that frequent ejaculation reduces the risk of prostate cancer.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/prostate-cancer/AN01825




xssve -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 5:29:01 PM)

Why are you still talking about sperm?




tazzygirl -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 5:29:49 PM)

Why not? You brought it up.




xssve -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 5:40:09 PM)

Here's one from the first source you quoted:

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Previous studies have linked frequent sexual activity to a higher risk of prostate cancer, but this new, large study found ejaculation frequency was not associated with prostate cancer risk except in the highest category. Men who ejaculated most often actually had a 33% lower lifetime risk of prostate cancer, and this relationship grew stronger as men grew older.
For example, men who reported 21 or more ejaculations per month in their 40s had a 32% lower risk of prostate cancer later in life compared with those who reported between four and seven ejaculations per month. Men who reported more than 21 monthly ejaculations in the previous year had a 51% lower risk of prostate cancer.
Overall, an average of 21 or more ejaculations a month during a man's lifetime decreased the risk of prostate cancer later in life by 33%. And each increase of three ejaculations per week during a man's lifetime was associated with a 15% reduction in prostate cancer risk.


WebMD: Frequent Ejaculation may be good for Prostate

I'm not sure what's so difficult about this - is more likely that semen "clots" form, as your previous link suggests? I think you'll find the science does agree with me.

And I don't really need a study - my prostate was infected, now it isn't - just fucking magic I guess.




tazzygirl -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 5:41:50 PM)

Its more likely you had rectal intercourse or busted your nuts on a bicycle.




xssve -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 5:42:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Why not? You brought it up.
Are you that dense? You still think semen and sperm are the same thing?

I   n e v e r   s a i d   a n y t h i n g   a b o u t   s p e r m.

Does it help if I write slower?




xssve -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 5:44:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Its more likely you had rectal intercourse or busted your nuts on a bicycle.
You got nuts and sperm on the brain, we are not even talking about the same things.




tazzygirl -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 5:47:28 PM)

Um, sweety, its seminal fluid that comes, partly, from the prostate. Which is what we are discussing, no? And, since you discussed things backing up and busting your nuts... lol... sperm is part of the seminal fluid. Its not stored in the prostate, as I have already posted about.





tazzygirl -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 5:48:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: xssve

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Its more likely you had rectal intercourse or busted your nuts on a bicycle.
You got nuts and sperm on the brain, we are not even talking about the same things.



Ahem... go back to the list of causes for prostatitis....

Certain conditions and medical procedures increase the risk of developing prostatitis. You are at higher risk for getting prostatitis if you:

Recently have had a medical instrument, such as a urinary catheter (a soft, lubricated tube used to drain urine from the bladder) inserted during a medical procedure
Engage in rectal intercourse
Have an abnormal urinary tract
Have had a recent bladder infection
Have an enlarged prostate
Other causes may include autoimmune disease (an abnormal reaction of the body to the prostate tissue).




xssve -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 5:49:44 PM)

Have an enlarged prostate

Why is it enlarged?




tazzygirl -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (5/18/2011 5:51:18 PM)

Many reasons, could be cancer, could be injury, could be an infection... it isn't from a build up of seminal fluid.




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