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domiguy -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/26/2011 10:57:41 PM)
Nothing from anyone in that email address.

domiguy -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/26/2011 11:17:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy did posts disappear for no reason? No I pulled them and you were sent a message to the email address that you have listed on the forums side. If you did not receive you might want to update your profile, if you are truly confused as to why it was pulled, and the corresponding ones that were pulled referring to it. If you still have questions, you may cmail me privately. I assume you would not want it publicly announced, so cmail me if you are TRULY confused. No, feel free to publicly announce it. nothing in any email account. Seems there are two attached to this profile. both empty of anything from CM

VideoAdminAlpha -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/26/2011 11:45:32 PM)
Well, since you're special and all, and a mod got me as I was getting into bed.....you made a racial comment about black pro dommes, and I pulled it, and those that referred to it. As to quote: If it is important I just figure that I will be contacted the way that anyone else would contact me who is on this site...Through the CM messages. To change policy now makes little sense. I figured you of ALL posters would know how deleted post messages are delivered, since I'm pretty sure you have had one pulled once or twice. The ones you got cmail from me about was because I was making a special effort to make sure you got the message, instead of a generic letter. Policy has always been and will be, that the email addressed on this side, is the one that gets the note when a post is pulled and the moderator puts the reason and letter while pulling the post. So see, in fact, you had it backwards, you were getting them in a special manner, and now you are getting them in the same manner as everyone else.You might want to update the address.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/27/2011 1:18:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PhilSlave I agree completely, dommes seem to be incredibly pompous online. I would think somebody who's pompous enough to call himself "Slave" but asks such a clueless question is the equivalent of a fresher calling himself Professor...

COURTNEYCOX -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/27/2011 1:49:41 AM)
To RedMagic: I am black and I have a college degree. Just like you said your statement is not a fact of the overall status and can not be fairly judged just by the few blacks you mat know. You can't always go by some google search or man made statistics when it comes to Dommes of a certain race. And in this economy whether your black,white,asian or whatever those degrees are not doing any of us much good now. Degree or no degree when going gets tough, the tough get going.

LadyPact -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/27/2011 1:55:52 AM)
The fish lips aren't helping your credibility. Just saying.

rulemylife -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/27/2011 2:03:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy All the time you hear dopey dommes comparing themselves to people that actually have a profession. Most pro doms I know do have a vanilla profession, though some are savvy enough to run a dungeon full time. Entrepreneurship takes a lot of time, hard work and guts. I'm sorry, say that again. Did you just say entrepreneurship? It always amuses me how pro-dommes like to think of themselves as respectable professionals just because the sexual service they provide doesn't involve spreading their legs.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/27/2011 2:10:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PhilSlave quote: ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious quote: ORIGINAL: PhilSlave emotionally mugging someone seems somewhat different to physical mugging. My mistake, I was sure using the word emotional provided some distinction. The word 'mugging' still implies a much more active role than just posting an ad. Note that 'active' is not the same as 'physical'. What with all your degrees I assumed you'd be able to make that distinction, but perhaps not. The ad is active- as it is worded to cause a specified reaction in someone emotionally vulnerable, this along with some form of picture, emotionally 'mugs' the victim of said predator. Makes no sense, in that case every shop owner who puts tempting merchandise in the window would be a mugger, I don't think I could get away with canceling the payment I made in a Prada shop with the claim "They emotionally mugged me, they are predators, they put a tempting handbag in the window and I could not resist, I have this addiction for nice handbags...." How about TV ads? Are they all mugging people or are people who are old enough to have checking accounts, credit cards and are eligible for mortgage loans? Or would you say that from a certain age on you are responsible for your actions? Because something is tempting does not automatically mean it's an excuse to go and do it. Somebody who's old enough to get married, vote, etc. should have the maturity to not throw caution into the wind, and especially not that text that is in BIG BOLD RED LETTERS above your mailbox DO NOT SEND MONEY TO OTHER USERS FOR ANY REASON! - if somebody ignores all that without having a fetish for giving a stranger money, then they have other issues and should not be online, then you have to protect them from much much more than online financial dommes. What are you going to do? Sit with them and hold their hands, make sure that they look when crossing the street? Go with them to the shops so they won't spend all their money because obviously they can't resist temptation at all...

rulemylife -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/27/2011 2:26:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPac It is, in My opinion, a position of where the demand is greater than the supply. That is why people can make a profit from it. I don't spend a single second blaming the women for it. They are only taking advantage of opportunity. If no market would exist, neither would they. Isn't that the same as saying they are prostitutes? ...only if everyone taking advantage of a supply deficiency in a market is a prostitute. Imagine people kept asking for a particular kind of guitar pick-up that was hard to get hold of, so some women started manufacturing said guitar pickup because there was a gap in the market. Are they prostitutes because they've identified a need? Are you serious? You want to equate this to a lesson in economics? I don't know whether to laugh or cry. But let me say it once again, pro-dommes are providing a sexual service. So explain to me how that differs from any other form of prostitution.

VaguelyCurious -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/27/2011 2:33:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife I don't know whether to laugh or cry. If the internet is making you cry you're doing it wrong. Go get a cup of coffee or something, you'll feel better. quote: But let me say it once again, pro-dommes are providing a sexual service. So explain to me how that differs from any other form of prostitution. Do try to keep your head screwed on straight - we're not talking about pro-dommes, we're talking about women who accept money...and then provide jack shit, except for maybe a picture of their nice new shoes. No contact whatsoever. I mean, you do actually know what a findomme is, right? Or are we having this conversation at cross-purposes?

LadyConstanze -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/27/2011 2:35:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife Are you serious? You want to equate this to a lesson in economics? I don't know whether to laugh or cry. But let me say it once again, pro-dommes are providing a sexual service. So explain to me how that differs from any other form of prostitution. Because somebody will be aroused by a whipping or bondage? If you get aroused by your physician giving you a prostate exam, is he or she providing a sexual service? Now if they would give you that service for free, I guess your definition would change and they'd be respectable? And I honestly don't get that bias towards prostitutes, what they do with their bodies is up to them, which right do I have to tell them that they can't do it? How are they any worse than a woman who'll marry a guy for money? If they provide an honest service, I hope they earn well from it, not something I'd care to do but if they feel different about it, fine, no skin off my nose. In fact I am glad they are around, imagine all the frustrated guys who can't get sex running around and pestering female members of your family because they have no other outlet...

PhilSlave -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/27/2011 2:51:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife Are you serious? You want to equate this to a lesson in economics? I don't know whether to laugh or cry. But let me say it once again, pro-dommes are providing a sexual service. So explain to me how that differs from any other form of prostitution. Because somebody will be aroused by a whipping or bondage? If you get aroused by your physician giving you a prostate exam, is he or she providing a sexual service? Now if they would give you that service for free, I guess your definition would change and they'd be respectable? And I honestly don't get that bias towards prostitutes, what they do with their bodies is up to them, which right do I have to tell them that they can't do it? How are they any worse than a woman who'll marry a guy for money? If they provide an honest service, I hope they earn well from it, not something I'd care to do but if they feel different about it, fine, no skin off my nose. In fact I am glad they are around, imagine all the frustrated guys who can't get sex running around and pestering female members of your family because they have no other outlet... Are you a money domme?

LadyPact -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/27/2011 2:54:40 AM)
I'm not, but shit, I can see how shallow you are about it. What's driving it?

PhilSlave -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/27/2011 3:00:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact I'm not, but shit, I can see how shallow you are about it. What's driving it? Please expand your observation, exactly how shallow am I about 'it'?

LadyConstanze -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/27/2011 3:06:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PhilSlave Are you a money domme? Obviously - for all the degrees you claim - you do have problems reading and/or comprehending, I said several times I have no interest in the kink, but because something is not my kink doesn't make it less valid. But I have no problem with them, just like I have no problem with prostitution. As for your comprehension problem, you label yourself slave without a clue what the term means in a BDSM context (not the approach I expect from somebody who claims scientific degrees) and then ask if BDSM is Is BDSM for people who find they can't cope with normal relationships with Vanilla relationships? (not to mention the messed up grammar) and then you proclaim quote: I find I migrate to bdsm after vanilla relationships because I desire structure for a while with less emotion. Is this what BDSM is? Well, isn't it time that you check out what the label slave means? You mean you're alright getting into a relationship where you know you won't invest emotion because you desire "structure for a while", meaning you enter in a relationship not only knowing you aren't investing real emotions, you also know it's temporary - you possibly don't tell the woman in advance and mislead her, yet you feel concerned for people who can't read warnings? Sorry, but what kind of hypocrite are you?

LadyPact -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/27/2011 3:06:05 AM)
Let's just say that I don't see your issue as moral indignation. I think you'd like people to believe that's what it's about, but it isn't really is it? I think it's envy.

PhilSlave -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/27/2011 3:10:17 AM)
To Constanze You have a BA, from this I suspect your subject is unlikely to impact much in the real world. You said you have no interest in this kink yet you defend it with some very poor straw man arguments. I only see BDSM as role playing, any role I decide to take does not define me and is only temporary. quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Let's just say that I don't see your issue as moral indignation. I think you'd like people to believe that's what it's about, but it isn't really is it? I think it's envy. Please expand, envy of what?

rulemylife -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/27/2011 3:11:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife Are you serious? You want to equate this to a lesson in economics? I don't know whether to laugh or cry. But let me say it once again, pro-dommes are providing a sexual service. So explain to me how that differs from any other form of prostitution. Because somebody will be aroused by a whipping or bondage? If you get aroused by your physician giving you a prostate exam, is he or she providing a sexual service? Now if they would give you that service for free, I guess your definition would change and they'd be respectable? And I honestly don't get that bias towards prostitutes, what they do with their bodies is up to them, which right do I have to tell them that they can't do it? How are they any worse than a woman who'll marry a guy for money? If they provide an honest service, I hope they earn well from it, not something I'd care to do but if they feel different about it, fine, no skin off my nose. In fact I am glad they are around, imagine all the frustrated guys who can't get sex running around and pestering female members of your family because they have no other outlet... I think that response sadly sums up the attitude many females have.

PhilSlave -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/27/2011 3:12:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife Are you serious? You want to equate this to a lesson in economics? I don't know whether to laugh or cry. But let me say it once again, pro-dommes are providing a sexual service. So explain to me how that differs from any other form of prostitution. Because somebody will be aroused by a whipping or bondage? If you get aroused by your physician giving you a prostate exam, is he or she providing a sexual service? Now if they would give you that service for free, I guess your definition would change and they'd be respectable? And I honestly don't get that bias towards prostitutes, what they do with their bodies is up to them, which right do I have to tell them that they can't do it? How are they any worse than a woman who'll marry a guy for money? If they provide an honest service, I hope they earn well from it, not something I'd care to do but if they feel different about it, fine, no skin off my nose. In fact I am glad they are around, imagine all the frustrated guys who can't get sex running around and pestering female members of your family because they have no other outlet... I think that response sadly sums it up. Yes, yes it does.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Are money dommes like beggars? (5/27/2011 3:15:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife I think that response sadly sums it up. What? The fact that you're a hypocrite? Not a problem, plenty of them around here. So you have a problem with pro dommes, prostitutes, financial dommes, guess what? Deal with it.

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