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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 10:29:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		LP, not to come across as greedy and all that, but I would think it would actually a great idea but I would consider it unfair if they would both spend their time and not get compensated. People spend a lot for other stuff where they get less...

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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 10:32:07 AM   
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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 10:35:29 AM   
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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 10:42:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

LP, not to come across as greedy and all that, but I would think it would actually a great idea but I would consider it unfair if they would both spend their time and not get compensated. People spend a lot for other stuff where they get less...

It doesn't come across as greedy at all, if they were going to spend constant time doing it.  I can't imagine that anybody could possibly keep up with such a thing on an on-going basis.

However, if there were some way for some of the submissive males to offer advice on why then tend to well here, I wonder if some new males would do better.  I think they do a pretty good job of it over the course of various threads.  Still, if some advice were on in one place, there might be an advantage to it.


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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 10:48:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

LOL, can't you see the adverts? "Submit to Mistress Roch and Mistress Otter - sign up now and get a training discount..."


We refuse to go into business without our colleague, Mistress Peon. 



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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 10:48:29 AM   
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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 11:43:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: falccon

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady


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ORIGINAL: falccon

After finding a Domme, you're collared, sign a slave contract, and a chastity devise is installed. You make the necessary arrangements to hand over access all possessions to her including bank account and wages into her account. Life as a slave has begun and you are truly where you've always wanted to be. However, after a few months, the Domme refuses to play and doesn't enforce the rules anymore. She doesn't want to be in control and seems uninterested in such play. She likes control of the slave's money and that's all. What can you do to prevent this from happening?


I didn't even bother reading the whole thread after you told LP her translation was "inaccurate." I don't know you from shit on the ground, so your "history" here means nothing to me.

See that bold statement up there? Don't hand over your life savings, assets or wages to anyone. That's how you keep it from happening again. Unless there is a MARRIAGE contract, where you have some legal standing.

So in the future, spend money on a pro. Guaranteed to get what you pay for. Otherwise, you are a grown ass man. Act like one.


if you bother to read the thread, you'll know why i made those statements. your total disrespect shows how cluless you are. looks like your here to start drama, drama queen.



Don't need to read everyone else's advice to know you are acting like a whiney child. Did I show you respect? Hell no. Do you deserve any? Hell no.

Again, you turned over your assets to someone and now she won't do anything but play with your financial assets. Foolish move by you. You got what you deserved.

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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 12:38:01 PM   
falccon


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady


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ORIGINAL: falccon

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady


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ORIGINAL: falccon

After finding a Domme, you're collared, sign a slave contract, and a chastity devise is installed. You make the necessary arrangements to hand over access all possessions to her including bank account and wages into her account. Life as a slave has begun and you are truly where you've always wanted to be. However, after a few months, the Domme refuses to play and doesn't enforce the rules anymore. She doesn't want to be in control and seems uninterested in such play. She likes control of the slave's money and that's all. What can you do to prevent this from happening?


I didn't even bother reading the whole thread after you told LP her translation was "inaccurate." I don't know you from shit on the ground, so your "history" here means nothing to me.

See that bold statement up there? Don't hand over your life savings, assets or wages to anyone. That's how you keep it from happening again. Unless there is a MARRIAGE contract, where you have some legal standing.

So in the future, spend money on a pro. Guaranteed to get what you pay for. Otherwise, you are a grown ass man. Act like one.


if you bother to read the thread, you'll know why i made those statements. your total disrespect shows how cluless you are. looks like your here to start drama, drama queen.



Don't need to read everyone else's advice to know you are acting like a whiney child. Did I show you respect? Hell no. Do you deserve any? Hell no.

Again, you turned over your assets to someone and now she won't do anything but play with your financial assets. Foolish move by you. You got what you deserved.


drama queen, give it a rest already. did i at any time make any complaints about the money? NO! i recovered quite well, thanks. read, and see what I'm talking about. i guess that's why i still say your out to lunch. i thought you'd be sharper than this, but i was wrong. looks like all your capable of doing is riding the coat tails of others. how sad.

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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 12:49:00 PM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		So far, there are at least two possibilities.  Roch offered up one (she just wasn't really into you) and so did I (bait and switch tactic).  Now, if neither of those are right, you really can't blame people for not wanting to help you when all that's happening here is people taking a guess and you saying "nope, not right". 

Shall we just start putting thoughts up?

She really didn't enjoy the chastity kink?

She found someone she was more interested in Dominating?

She didn't like the way you kept house, so she felt you weren't upholding your end of the bargain?

Other than money, she wanted a better submissive, one more in tune to her type of Domination?

Maybe she saw the way you were rude to other Dominant women and withheld the D/s from you because she was hoping you would leave?



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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 12:51:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, let's think outside the box here, does the OP wash properly? Eat with his mouth closed?


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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 1:00:23 PM   
falccon


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Status: offline 		i asked a legit question, and some of the answers were down right disrespectful. you want respect it has to go both ways. i spoke my mind, and didn't act like a doormat. i know that's what a lot of dommes here want to see. unfortunately, it's not me.

usually the title speaks volumes, but not in this case. for her it was a temp thing because she wasn't into bdsm in the first place. she's total vanilla, and wanted to try this to see where it could lead. she went back to vanilla world. it's that simple. i tried with a person who was not into the scene. next time, i will make sure the person has been into it for long time and craves it as much as i do.

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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 1:04:19 PM   
ChatteParfaitt


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Status: offline 		I admit I have not read all the posts, but it seems the OP expected tea and sympathy for getting played by the big mean domme, and what he got was: are you a moron?

It takes two to tango, as they say. But the whole concept of "if you got played, then on some level, you opened yourself up to let that happen" does not appear to be one the OP buys into. It can be hard to admit you got used badly b/c you wanted to believe that which you knew on some level was not true.

There are tons of user people out there, and it has nothing to do with BDSM or D/s. Reasons to at least try to go slow and get to know someone well before you give your heart away.


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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 1:16:40 PM   
BonesFromAsh


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ORIGINAL: falccon

i asked a legit question, and some of the answers were down right disrespectful. you want respect it has to go both ways. i spoke my mind, and didn't act like a doormat. i know that's what a lot of dommes here want to see. unfortunately, it's not me.


falccon, you may not have liked or appreciated the answers you recieved, but they were applicable nonetheless.

Speaking your mind isn't a bad thing. It's something that most of the women here on CollarChat/the forums like, but doing it in a spiteful way doesn't reflect well on you. Talking about pissing matches and calling people "drama queen" only make you look bad. You can speak your mind without dragging it through the mud. Just my opinion, fwiw.

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usually the title speaks volumes, but not in this case. for her it was a temp thing because she wasn't into bdsm in the first place. she's total vanilla, and wanted to try this to see where it could lead. she went back to vanilla world. it's that simple. i tried with a person who was not into the scene. next time, i will make sure the person has been into it for long time and craves it as much as i do.


It would have been so much easier for you to have admitted this when LadyPact mentioned bait/switch, which is basically what this sounds like in many ways.

It sounds like both of you chose to ignore the obvious about each other. Live and learn....next time, don't be so quick to jump into the fantasy. You're still dealing with a relationship with another person...regardless of the length of time they've "been into it" or how much either of you "crave" the dynamic.


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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 1:39:41 PM   
OttersSwim


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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

LOL, can't you see the adverts? "Submit to Mistress Roch and Mistress Otter - sign up now and get a training discount..."


We refuse to go into business without our colleague, Mistress Peon. 



Oh nobody wants to work with that slut



I'll work with her, but she's definitely going to be the third girl!

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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 1:54:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Falccon, did you ever meet this domme in real life?

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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 1:59:21 PM   
PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

Oh nobody wants to work with that slut



You know, I can actually read this thread? Fackenell.

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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 2:22:06 PM   
Arpig


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And they both come into the dynamic from completely different perspectives. Which shows so clearly there is not "one true way to be a great male sub."

This is so obvious as to not really need saying, but ....
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Your whole approach has helped me too, I have tried to adopt a lot of what you say into how I submit, and again it has been a success.

What I find very interesting is that the approach/philosophy of a "Knight serving his Queen" style male sub is applicable to the dynamic of a "I hate it, but love you doing it to me" style lesbian slave. Clearly if the philosophy of the first is applicable to the very different dynamic of the other, there are some fundamental underlying principals in play here.

I would hazard a guess that it is a real devotion to the happiness of his Domme. A large degree of genuine selflessness. And a deep understanding of what makes a woman click.

Roch doesn't just give good advice for pleasing your Domme, he gives good advice for getting into a woman's pants, period. Any het man or lez girl would do well to read his posts carefully...the man knows his women.

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Oh nobody wants to work with that slut
That maybe so, but I still objectify him on a daily basis....

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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 2:29:04 PM   
LadyPact


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i asked a legit question, and some of the answers were down right disrespectful. you want respect it has to go both ways. i spoke my mind, and didn't act like a doormat. i know that's what a lot of dommes here want to see. unfortunately, it's not me.

usually the title speaks volumes, but not in this case. for her it was a temp thing because she wasn't into bdsm in the first place. she's total vanilla, and wanted to try this to see where it could lead. she went back to vanilla world. it's that simple. i tried with a person who was not into the scene. next time, i will make sure the person has been into it for long time and craves it as much as i do.

Please understand something.  Respect is generally something that people have for each other when they've shown each other that they've earned it.  I'm sorry if you don't believe the same, but in all seriousness, if you want respect, you might want to stop the attitude that you've displayed in a few places. 

Now, there's probably no way to know if the person you were associated was just attempting a Dominant role in order to control your money or not.  She might have been telling you that she was interested in trying it while in the back of her mind she was thinking of the cash.  I don't know if the person's intentions were pure or not.  There's no point in trying to figure out the real motivations.  Truthfully, there are a lot of people on the planet who will tell you what you want to hear for cash.

From the paragraph above, you really did know the answer to your own question.


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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 2:33:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: falccon
for her it was a temp thing because she wasn't into bdsm in the first place. she's total vanilla, and wanted to try this to see where it could lead. she went back to vanilla world. it's that simple. i tried with a person who was not into the scene. next time, i will make sure the person has been into it for long time and craves it as much as i do.


Wait a doggone minute!!!!  That's totally different than what you described in the OP.  You never said that you tried to force your kink on a vanilla woman and she got tired of it.

I hate it when people start a thread, and then give additional information later in the thread that totally changes the story.  Had we known this info from the beginning, I'll bet many people would have given you a totally different answer.   Although in my case, I still would have said that she's just not that into you.  However, I might have added that she's also not into your kink, or BDSM in general.

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RE: The temp Domme - 5/24/2011 2:35:38 PM   
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