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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/24/2011 6:44:10 AM   
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Thanks Imp and Blacksword for the ideas.

I do keep water with me and end up drinking about 4 quarts or so during the day. We don't have real air conditioning so the rooms are almost always boiling. I'll see if I can pick up some of the myoplex shakes next time I'm in town. How do they taste though? I'm not a big fan of chalky or odd fruity flavors. I did pick up some yo-plait frozen chocolate and banana smoothie things and was thinking I could add a heaping spoonful of peanut butter to it and it might help.



They really aren't that bad. I've tried a lot of different protein drinks and powders and I like myoplex by far the best. The powder itself really just tastes like chocolate milk to me (when mixed with milk). I've never mixed it with water although my husband says it's fine. The already mixed drinks aren't bad at all. French vanilla is by far the best although I haven't tried the strawberry. Chocolate isn't so bad as long as it's really cold.

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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/26/2011 12:30:11 AM   
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As of now I am sitting at about 311 and about 33% body fat. Only 2% away from where I started. Which is good considering all the calories I was eating. It did give me the energy to go harder, longer. I'm shooting for dropping another 8 percent over the next 4 months.

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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/28/2011 1:36:41 PM   
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KeriB, also, if you are getting hungry after an hour and a half -- i mean like actually hungry and not your mind saying ohh let's eat, you may not be eating enough fat and may be eating the wrong type of carbs.  While it's good to eat every two hours, you really shouldn't be hungry hungry then, you eat every two hours so you don't get hungry.

So something may be off with what you are eating and your body is seeking something you aren't feeding it and indicating same by your being hungry.  I am not big on protein shakes or anything like that except for emergencys.  To me, no matter if it's protein or not, liquids just aren't conducive to actually eating which is also a psychological thing too with texture and such giving you tangible concepts to feed your brain.

Try killing the bagel and instead have the eggs with steel oats oatmeal.  Also, stick a stash of almonds in your bag.

I know yu probably have looked into this but could it be your mind playing with you making you think you are hungry after an hour and a half?

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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/28/2011 2:09:56 PM   
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What do you mean by "the right kind of carbs"?

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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/28/2011 3:18:58 PM   
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What do you mean by "the right kind of carbs"?


Carbs that are high in sugars or starches make your blood glucose spike.  You may as well eat a candy bar instead, as it is almost the same difference.  I like my Atkins carb counter book because it lets me know how much the carbs will affect my blood glucose.  Fiber is a carb that is counted...but...though it can burn in a lab and produce calories in heat, within the body it does nothing to raise your blood glucose levels. 

Your body will react less to sweet potatoes than to white potatoes, and less to spinach, salads, green beans, cabbage, mushrooms, bell peppers, squash...than to corn, green peas, and carrots. 

Same thing with fruits.  All types of berries, as well as grapefruit, lemons and limes for drinks, will raise your glucose dramatically less than eating apples, bananas, grapes, etc.

I agree about the fat intake.  When I am dieting, if I eat a meal that has no fat and very little protein my stomach is literally growling an hour later.  If I eat a boiled egg or two, meat, or two ounces of brick cheese (not sliced), my stomach can stay quiet for five or six hours.

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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/28/2011 4:22:44 PM   
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Okay, I'm joining this.  Am NOT saying how much I weigh, lol.  In recent years, my doctor told me to lie down or sit and keep my right leg elevated to keep the swelling down (he had had all the lymph nodes removed at the top of that leg, and swelling is a natural consequence).  The problem was that 2-4 hours of shopping or an hour of yard work required sitting with my leg up for days to get the swelling under control.  Notice I did not say...gone.

Consequently, my body did not like being a couch potato.  Even my Atkins Diet stopped working (I used to go on this once per year or two for a month to maintain my weight) because my metabolism dropped too low.  I cannot get up and down from the floor without ripping up my knees (I had a motorcycle accident years ago, and then finished them off by standing up on my shovel to force it past turf so I could dig that up for a garden, and also by kneeling and squatting for hours while scrubbing the baseboards in my then new house and then painting them with several coats.)

I was used to doing a favorite RCAF exercize routine, daily, as well as going for long walks at night three times per week with my son.  All this stopped and no matter how I starved myself I kept putting on more weight.

I told my sub that before getting to know him, I had decided to start topping bottoms in my area because at least I would be doing an exercize that I would enjoy and could do safely.  Now, he is the only one I do impact play on...and...I had a big surprise when I went to two doctors this past week.  My weight finally stopped going up.  (My weight does fluctuate with my menstrual cycle, so bear with me.)

I last saw my oncologist about six weeks before, and they said I had lost 8 lbs.  The family doctor I had gone to four weeks before, because of another bladder infection, told me that I had lost 12 lbs.  My sub is delighted that he can be used for my benefit in this way, and that the energy I get from him helps me to get more things done throughout my week.

I bought an exercize machine that is perfect for helping me to strengthen my knees.  I was used to locking one after I had had a slip and fall and had shattered my lower right leg (got plates and screws), and since I was not using some of the muscles properly, they had atrophed.  Walking a lot made them worse.  I can sit at this machine and raise my legs a little, working only my knees.  If I flip over and lie down, I can work another muscle group in the backs of my knees as I pull my ankles toward my butt.  The problem is that I have to clear a large area in my bedroom/computer/library/sewing room.  It will take me till sometime next month, but already I have bought some music on CDs to play while I exercize.  There are weights and a bar to lift too, and I will be starting with only the naked bar, lol.

I also bought a mini trampoline.  I used to have one just like it years ago.  Anyway, this is for some light jogging in place so that I lessen the repercussions of my body being jostled too much; I am dealing with three cranky old back fractures, two old hip fractures, arthritis, and two knees that have flareups of bursitis and also have stage three cartilige tears.  Yeah, easy does it...I wish I had the body I had when I was in my early twenties.

I am eating normally, which for me means meat and veggies, low carb fruits, and rarely some higher carb fruits like cantaloupe...I limit my bread to 2-3 servings per day, depending on if I also have a potato or higher carb veggies like mixed (corn, peas, carrots, and green beans).  Every 2-3 days I have a dessert...right now it has been a particular weakness of mine, a six ounce box of Good and Plenty that I have been nibbling on since Thursday.  When I am dieting, I use artificial sweeteners along with Truvia (stevia that is in crystal form, crunching just like sugar crystals), and right now I am having my tea with sugar.

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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/28/2011 4:37:00 PM   
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lol what she said -- Good carbs tend to be the ones that are unprocessed and high in fiber and low in sugar.  Pretty much veggies, nuts, and whole grains, and legumes also but i don't eat those -- blech. Depending on the fruit, berry's and high fiber low sugar fruits are considered good carbs to me.   I tend to stay away from all fruit except for berrys in small amounts and then not every day.  Fiber also makes you feel full longer -- just as fats and protein do. 

But i also follow Atkins so i am a little more rigid than most when it comes to carbs.

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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/28/2011 4:48:46 PM   
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Thanks Cynthia and angel

I have the dual goals of continuing to lose weight and lower my cholesterol which is quite the challenge. It hasn't been too bad in the summer, but now that the weather is cooling off I'm having trouble thinking of hot meals. Is pasta good or bad? Seems to me I read somewhere it's good for helping to feel full, is that true?

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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/28/2011 5:18:52 PM   
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I don't know much about lowering cholesterol but i would imagine you focus on good fats, eating very high fiber foods and good proteins. Pysllium husks are good ways of getting fiber in -- i use Konsyl and drink 8 oz water with that in it before every meal and it helps fill me up and keep me full.  Steel cut oatmeal should be a good hot food to have, just be sure to keep it in serving size and don't over endulge.

Pasta for me has never been something that keeps me full long -- gets me full yes, but not a good for long concept so i will always vote for people to not use pasta as a staple even whole grain.  But you can experiment with your own body see how long you remain full, how your body feels after you eat a meal with pasta.  Do you feel like taking a nap or are you energized? 

IF you like pasta, you can always substitute things like zuchini for pasta.  

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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/28/2011 5:38:06 PM   
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Zephyr, what does your body tell you about pasta...?  Some people do not gain weight on it while others do.

When I stuck with a 1000 calorie per day diet and ate all that "healthy" pasta and almost no meat and no fat, I did not lose weight.  I was always starving.  If you are like me, have some if you love it, but count the grams of carbs you eat in a day and find out what you can get away with.  In my home, pasta is rare and served in 1/2 to 2/3 cup portions, as one would a veggie they didn't particularly like.  Eat it slower, enjoy each bite if it really floats your boat (my son is nuts for mac and cheese and could eat an entire batch on his own in one day or one meal), but be sure to balance it out with low carb veggies and some meat or meat substitute like eggs.

Are you taking flaxseed oil?  If not, then fatty fish or else a handful of fatty nuts (pecans or walnuts) will give you the omega 3 you need.  Your body will take carbs and build them into cholesterol and bad fats, so get enough of the good fats like olive oil, canola, and flaxseed (nicer than fish oil) and maybe your body will be happy with those.

My mother treats meat like a decoration, and has almost a fat free diet...and her triglycerides and stuff were high anyway.  She has been eating 1/3 to 1/2 of her food perday as raw food...veggies moreso than fruits, and taking flaxseed oil...and was able to go off the Lipitor. 

Btw, egg yellows are fine and do not raise cholesterol levels.  God was smart and put lecithin(sp?) in them.

Btw, making pasta at home is easy and fun, and you can experiment with mixing whole meal flour with some lighter stuff like barley flour.  Otherwise, in my grocery store I see whole wheat noodles.  They have a tougher texture but your body will digest them slower and not be turned into sugar so fast.  I dislike it for spaghetti, but am okay with it as mac and cheese, or as penne or shells.

All carbs (other than fiber) are turned into sugar of some sort by your body.  Try to make sure this is a smaller amount compared with the quantity of food you are eating.  Btw, we have a spaghetti sauce recipe from the Mayberry Cookbook that is cheap to make and is out of this world.  When I am doing Atkins, I will make omelettes with mushrooms and shredded cheddar cheese, and then slosh some of this tomato sauce on top.  A two egg omelette done like this will keep me full for around five hours.

Whenever I am very broke, especially during the time heating bills are high...I have to eat a lot more grain products.  Pasta this, sandwitch that, and tortillas for burritos.  I always gain weight in winter. 

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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/28/2011 7:12:39 PM   
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Since jan 2011 I went from 252 to 216, but i've hit a wall. HELP

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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/28/2011 7:27:48 PM   
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I got back on the wagon and did 3 miles on the treadmill. My ankle is still pretty tender so I had to walk slower, but at least I was walking. When my ankle finally fully heals I'll pick up the pace and the miles. I have the alarm set for 6:45 am tomorrow so that I can hit the treadmill for an hour before I make some steal cut oats with fruit, a scrambled egg and coffee before I head to school. For school for 8 hours I have packed a turkey sandwich, some wheat thin crunch sticks, a protein shake, some granola, greek yogurt with fruit, and an apple. Probably more food than I will eat, but all low in calories and high in protein. My body handles protein much better than carbs.

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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/28/2011 7:53:01 PM   
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impishhellcat,

Some unsolicited advice but your food doesn't seem like there is any fat, enough protein and way to much fruit and carbs in your food you are taking tomorrow.  My suggestion would be in the future trade the granola for almonds and you seem to have a lot of fruit going on there, trade some of that out for a salad with vinager and oil dressing.  You are having carbs with the sandwich, the granola, the wheat things, the fruit and the apple.  What protein are you having with the wheat thins, apple and granola.  Remember, always eat some protein when you eat a carb, including fruit.  Instead of the fruit with your yogurt and/or the apple, throw a jimaca in there.  Put some cheese in there to eat with your wheat thins and/or apple or some turkey slices. 

I hope you don't mind this post, you can keep the cals low by adding a little more fat and protein with your food, you won't be eating that much and it will keep you full longer than the carbs including the fruit.  Don't forget the fat, it's good for you as long as it's good fat.  If you don't like eating fat, throw a little olive oil on things when you cook them or get your veggies in and make a salad with some vinager and oil in it. 

shakes my finger at you -- you should be eating more veggies in a day than you do fruit. Eat your veggies!
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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/28/2011 7:55:25 PM   
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fallon -- Congrats on your success so far.  I know it gets very frustrating when you are doing so well then stop!
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what have you been doing i.e., diet and exercise.  Without knowing that it's hard to figure out what may be stalling you now.  What type of plan are you on, do you keep your macros, or follow a certain way of eating, have you changed up your exercise etc?  there are people here on differnet types of plans and ways of eating soe someone will have some ideas but it helps to know where to start looking.

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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/28/2011 9:13:49 PM   
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I got back on the wagon and did 3 miles on the treadmill. My ankle is still pretty tender so I had to walk slower, but at least I was walking. When my ankle finally fully heals I'll pick up the pace and the miles. I have the alarm set for 6:45 am tomorrow so that I can hit the treadmill for an hour before I make some steal cut oats with fruit, a scrambled egg and coffee before I head to school. For school for 8 hours I have packed a turkey sandwich, some wheat thin crunch sticks, a protein shake, some granola, greek yogurt with fruit, and an apple. Probably more food than I will eat, but all low in calories and high in protein. My body handles protein much better than carbs.


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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/28/2011 9:26:05 PM   
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I would have liked to have more time to get more lat work in. Maybe 6 sets of dubbell rows but i ran out of time. I might go back tomorrow to use the treadmill and the ab machines.

Shoulder rotations 15x20, 15x20. Decline bench press 15x95, 10x135, 10x135, 6x135, 10x95, 10x95. Fly machine 10x100, 10x175. 4 sets of 10x135 4x4. Incline dumbbell press 8x55, 10x45, 10x45, 10x45. Lat pulldowns 20x120, 5x240, 10x180, 10x165, 10x150, 10x150. Bentover barbell rows 15x135, 10x185, 10x185. shrugs 20x55, 20x55, 15x55. Preacher curl machine 15x110, 5x170, 10x95, 10x85, 10x85. upright rows 12x15, 12x15, 15x15, 20x15. Wrist curls 40x15, 40x15, 20x15, 25x15.

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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/28/2011 11:35:30 PM   
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I'm not sure it completely all in my head as I do get dizzy and have trouble talking if I don't eat something soon after I feel hungry. I think part of it is just finding the right combination of fat, carbs, and protein. I've become a bit of a picky eater since I moved and will only finish half a meal because I feel full. I've got things like dried fruit and nut homemade trail mix and a few other things I'm trying.

I did get out twice over the weekend to walk for 45 minutes, each which was nice.

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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/29/2011 3:10:19 AM   
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Once again thank you so much girls. Clearly I need to pay more attention to carbs, not so much in the summer but more in the colder months. Also, it appears that pasta is more or less out. Too bad I really love it. Steel cut oats - bleah it would be more of a punishment than anything else. Maybe when I find a Master he could use it as a punishment for not eating right ~grins~

Cynthia, I copied the info you gave me so I can go over it more thoroughly later. Thanks so much.

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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/29/2011 6:10:51 AM   
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impishhellcat,

Some unsolicited advice but your food doesn't seem like there is any fat, enough protein and way to much fruit and carbs in your food you are taking tomorrow.  My suggestion would be in the future trade the granola for almonds and you seem to have a lot of fruit going on there, trade some of that out for a salad with vinager and oil dressing.  You are having carbs with the sandwich, the granola, the wheat things, the fruit and the apple.  What protein are you having with the wheat thins, apple and granola.  Remember, always eat some protein when you eat a carb, including fruit.  Instead of the fruit with your yogurt and/or the apple, throw a jimaca in there.  Put some cheese in there to eat with your wheat thins and/or apple or some turkey slices. 

I hope you don't mind this post, you can keep the cals low by adding a little more fat and protein with your food, you won't be eating that much and it will keep you full longer than the carbs including the fruit.  Don't forget the fat, it's good for you as long as it's good fat.  If you don't like eating fat, throw a little olive oil on things when you cook them or get your veggies in and make a salad with some vinager and oil in it. 

shakes my finger at you -- you should be eating more veggies in a day than you do fruit. Eat your veggies!
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You are right I don't have whole lot of fat. THe granola has almonds in it. My husband looked at the carbs on everything and he said as far as a daily value they are pretty low I switched out the turkey sandwich for an almond butter and jelly sandwich. I can't really take anything cold at the moment till I get a new lunch box till the hubby is getting one tonight the yogurt will be the first snack I eat. I'm already carrying a ton of stuff since campus is so far away from my home a salad at the moment isn't going to cut it for me. But the beef jerky, greek yogurt, and the protein shake all have 22, 12, and 20 grams of protein in them. Greek yogurt and the protein shakes are staples in my diet and always have been and they help me to lose weight. When I was working with the trainer on a daily basis we worked out meal plans that work well for my body and I'm going back to those.

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RE: The *NEW and IMPROVED* CM Biggest Loser/Health and ... - 8/30/2011 11:03:56 PM   
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Decided to go a little higher on my squats and throw in some shoulder exercises. Did some pullovers to help stretch out my chest.

Squats 10x135, 10x225, 10x280, 10x225, 10x135. Leg press 10x270, 10x360, 12x630, 10x630, 10x450. Leg curl 15x65, 10x95, 10x95, 10x95, 10x95, 15x95. Calf raises 30x210, 20x370, 25x370, 30x370. Pullover machine 15x180, 15x180, 15x180. Shoulder press machine 10x105, 15x120, 15x150, 15x180. Lateral raises 10x15, 15x15, 20x15, 25x15.

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