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ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Free College. (6/1/2011 8:09:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I was the guy that would have met you at the door with a shotgun saying take your goddamn junk offa my porch, you're destroying my country.

Who said free?  What sort of strawman are you trying to wiggle in?

Taxed, just like the taxes we pay so big oil and banks can pay their idiots millions upon millions in bonuses, pay to lobby congress, pay to back candidates we dont want, pay to... except they dont call them taxes, they get favorable treatments as codb.


But it IS free.  Almost 50% of the country doesn't pay federal income tax.  It is free for them and punitive for the rest of us.  No thanks, I will buy my own.  I don't need a nanny state to provide for me and do a poor job of doing at that.



Sounds fine to me. And when you get sick, and your insurance company drops you because that wasn't part of the bargain, please have the decency to die quietly and not make a scene, OK? I don't want my tax dollars wasted on keeping you alive.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Free College. (6/1/2011 8:17:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda


Sounds fine to me. And when you get sick, and your insurance company drops you because that wasn't part of the bargain, please have the decency to die quietly and not make a scene, OK? I don't want my tax dollars wasted on keeping you alive.



We dont want them, we can take care of ourselves quite well. Now can I have my share of the money the government has pissed away on health care back? TYVM.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Free College. (6/1/2011 8:49:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda


Sounds fine to me. And when you get sick, and your insurance company drops you because that wasn't part of the bargain, please have the decency to die quietly and not make a scene, OK? I don't want my tax dollars wasted on keeping you alive.



We dont want them, we can take care of ourselves quite well. Now can I have my share of the money the government has pissed away on health care back? TYVM.


Nope. We need it to take care of your neighbors when they get sick. It's all part of the social compact in your community. Don't like it? Tough shit.




tazzygirl -> RE: Free College. (6/1/2011 9:13:22 PM)


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And the reason for the 36% request by Anthem the year before (2009)?

And the reason why it requested 18% in Colorado, which was refused and reduced to 10%?

Lets not forget this jewel. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/14/anthem-delay-insurance-rate-increase-amid-criticis/

And you want me to believe what the company says is the reason for increases?


And every other company doing business in California.

This type of intellectual dishonesty is the reason I dont bother posting links and why the only people you have credibility with are your two yenta friends from "CM - The View"


No intellectual dishonesty. Its like asking the fox why he should guard the hen house.




tazzygirl -> RE: Free College. (6/1/2011 9:14:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie

67,000 specialists in residency spread out over 24+ specialties and 60 or so subspecialties, that isn't nearly enough coming through the pipeline to meet demand. We don't have enough physicians in general.

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66,000 PCP's vs 67,000 Specialists in residency training. With a shortage expected to be around 40,000 in 8 years.



I have asked others, will ask you.

What is your solution?




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Free College. (6/1/2011 9:55:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie

67,000 specialists in residency spread out over 24+ specialties and 60 or so subspecialties, that isn't nearly enough coming through the pipeline to meet demand. We don't have enough physicians in general.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

66,000 PCP's vs 67,000 Specialists in residency training. With a shortage expected to be around 40,000 in 8 years.



I have asked others, will ask you.

What is your solution?


Thats easy. Get the government the fuck out of health care and let doctor's be compensated what they should be for their practice.




tazzygirl -> RE: Free College. (6/1/2011 10:05:10 PM)

They have had the last 16 years to make it better. They had the chance and blew it.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Free College. (6/1/2011 10:23:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

They have had the last 16 years to make it better. They had the chance and blew it.


Who is "they"? Assuming you mean the 16 years before Obama, you might want to look at the makeup of Congress for exactly who had a chance and who blew it.




tazzygirl -> RE: Free College. (6/2/2011 2:20:19 AM)

"They" are the insurance companies who have been running things.




thompsonx -> RE: Free College. (6/2/2011 1:09:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ArizonaBossMan

Dear Leader loves the cuba model! Who wouldn't? All that freedom going on down thar!


So you belive the cubans were better off under batista?




thompsonx -> RE: Free College. (6/2/2011 1:13:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

BASIC PAY FOR ACTIVE DUTY SOLDIERS*

Chart reflects Basic Pay only and does not include bonuses, allowances and other benefits.


You're missing the entire point... the comment was in response to military cuts vs. paying for education.  Our military don't make shit as it is... no flippin' way in hell I'd ever side with the previous poster to cut a CENT from the military in order to send a doctor to schoool -- who'll then make $200,000 a year while the soldier -- who gives his/her life for this county -- makes peanuts!!! 

Actually it is you who has missed the point.
No one but you is talking about cutting the military pay...what I said was that there is money for the war in the sandbox but none for education.
Stoping the war does not mean cutting pay to the military.









willbeurdaddy -> RE: Free College. (6/2/2011 1:14:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

"They" are the insurance companies who have been running things.


Insurance companies are intermediaries, they don't have control to change anything.




tazzygirl -> RE: Free College. (6/2/2011 1:15:06 PM)

I got a bridge for you, willbe... to no where.




thompsonx -> RE: Free College. (6/2/2011 1:18:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

I guess you didn't/don't read the NY Times.  I don't either because it has become such a liberal rag of a paper.  But...sadly...yes, THAT  article was in the paper. So pffffffffffffffffffft!



Who owns that "liberal rag"?




thompsonx -> RE: Free College. (6/2/2011 1:29:56 PM)

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you're supposed to be an American Citizen in order to "vote"


Just how would you prove you are an american citizen?




thompsonx -> RE: Free College. (6/2/2011 1:41:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA


Respectfully, have ya seen who works at McDonals?!!  Young kids... shit, when I was that age, you could throw my ass down a flight of stairs and spring back up!!!





Yeah right




thompsonx -> RE: Free College. (6/2/2011 1:51:08 PM)

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Thats easy. Get the government the fuck out of health care and let doctor's be compensated what they should be for their practice.


That is what we had before.
Do you like the fact that the ama limits the number of doctors thus driving up the cost of medical care?




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Free College. (6/2/2011 2:43:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda


Sounds fine to me. And when you get sick, and your insurance company drops you because that wasn't part of the bargain, please have the decency to die quietly and not make a scene, OK? I don't want my tax dollars wasted on keeping you alive.



We dont want them, we can take care of ourselves quite well. Now can I have my share of the money the government has pissed away on health care back? TYVM.


Nope. We need it to take care of your neighbors when they get sick. It's all part of the social compact in your community. Don't like it? Tough shit.



Learn to read. Money the government has pissed away doesnt take care of anybody when they get sick.




mnottertail -> RE: Free College. (6/2/2011 2:44:29 PM)

Think of what it has done for Iraqis though, wilbur. (those that ain't dead, or bombed out at any rate).




tazzygirl -> RE: Free College. (6/2/2011 4:13:19 PM)

Hmmm... overall, how do people feel the VA is handling the care of veterans?




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